-
If you enjoy the forum please consider supporting it by signing up for a NES Membership The benefits pay for the membership many times over.
-
Be sure to enter the NES/MFS May Giveaway ***Canik METE SFX***
What are our options in a crowded harassment situation
- Thread starter bigbravehog
- Start date
- Joined
- Apr 24, 2005
- Messages
- 47,602
- Likes
- 33,714
The difference between law and medicine is that it is unethical for a doctor to infect other doctor's patients.
AHM
NES Member
"Have you seen the latest elite legal/life advice from ZeroHedge",
said no one ever.
The first thing I want to say about this is it is a difficult situation. Especially the more middle class you are, or the more formal the setting you are in.
The most important read you can do is on the thugs/activists.
...
- Are they patterned in a way that provides you a more clear route to exfiltrate?
Let's not be hasty.
Don't Kill The Job.
Yup, I'd get up and walk out on the meal."Have you seen the latest elite legal/life advice from ZeroHedge",
said no one ever.
The first thing I want to say about this is it is a difficult situation. Especially the more middle class you are, or the more formal the setting you are in.
The most important read you can do is on the thugs/activists....Just blade away at a 45° angle and call it a day.
- Are they patterned in a way that provides you a more clear route to exfiltrate?
Let's not be hasty.
Don't Kill The Job.
If the restaurant can't keep out the riff raff, they don't deserve to get paid for an unfinished meal.
I'm back on a healthy diet since eating at the Brazilian Grill 2x in 2 weeks.
And did I eat...
3 filet mignons, 6 plates of salmon sashimi and some sides.
This sort of nonsense would not happen at the Brazilian Grill.
The workers have skewers!
AHM
NES Member
Masquerading as serving utensils.
SFC13557
NES Member
give them the finger and tell them to suck it or go full Brad Marchand and lick them in the face. Lick em, I don't even like them!
Last edited:
SFC13557
NES Member
what are your hours, I'm interested?
I’m there most afternoons.
SFC13557
NES Member
Where is your shop now?
HorizontalHunter
NES Member
You're in a restaurant, you've got a fork in your hand for god's sake. Imagine these were not olives. Use the tools you've been given.
Well, that would be deflating.
This.
The best way to win a fight is to avoid it.
Bob
AHM
NES Member
Glenn "Instapundit" Reynolds wrote a blog post linking to
NRA Shooting Illustrated: Learn to Practice Situational Awareness
by Sheriff Jim Wilson - Friday, October 16, 2020
One of Instapundit's readers commented:
From: Comment Monster
Everyone should read Rory Miller's Facing Violence.
And every young adult in your family should have it
and have read at least the chapters on different kinds of violence
("monkey dance" vs predatory) and avoidance
before they move out of the house.
This rang a bell - I think I just found the author of that essay I'd mentioned:
Interview: Rory Miller, Detentions Specialist and Conflict Expert
...
There are only a handful of types of interpersonal violence.
I’m going to leave domestic violence out of this,
because it’s a big subject and easy to confuse.
Basically, social violence is about group dynamics
and centers around membership, territory, status and rules.
If a stranger comes to your house to tell you you are a crappy father,
you’ll get angry. And, because of the group identity, often your victim will get angry,
defend you and attack the police. Insiders versus outsiders.
Territory and status range from, “What are you lookin’ at, a**h***?”
to “You lookin’ at my girl?”
Rules enforcement violence ranges from a spanking to an execution,
from a look when someone is rude to “I’m gonna teach you a lesson, boy.”
All of these are predictable and avoidable.
Predatory violence breaks down two ways - resource predators need money,
usually for drugs and they want it as quickly and safely as possible.
A process predator wants the joy of causing pain and making someone beg.
...
So, my vague memories resulted in oversimplification.
But this guy is a former corrections officer,
and a big time martial arts student,
so he has insights to convey.
We'd have to read Facing Violence to see what Miller has to say about riots.
AHM
NES Member
See also: Defensive Carry: Street Robberies and you
heh?Great reminder,
New video shows juveniles brutally attacking woman in Boston
The video shows a 20-year-old woman being beaten and kicked by a group of minors, one of them as young as 12 years old.
www.wcvb.com
amm5061
NES Member
heh?
New video shows juveniles brutally attacking woman in Boston
The video shows a 20-year-old woman being beaten and kicked by a group of minors, one of them as young as 12 years old.
This shit's getting out of hand. They're attacking people in broad daylight now and the cops can't even charge half of them since they're too young. This is a powder keg waiting to explode once one of these little hoodrats gets shot. We'll get another round of BLM riots, for sure.
safetyfirst2125
NES Member
- Joined
- Mar 5, 2020
- Messages
- 15,577
- Likes
- 40,183
Also picked this up at that recommendation.
Principles of Personal Defense
Jeff Cooper
Amazon product ASIN 1581604955View: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1581604955/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_FC4YZM5V6YQFTQ657X13
SFC13557
NES Member
Hmm, when violent criminals suffer no consequences for their actions they will continue to attack innocent citizens. Not rocket science and the Libs have a plan, scare the shit out of white America and threaten us with their proxies, violent minority youth.
Nightshift
NES Member
- Joined
- Sep 18, 2020
- Messages
- 587
- Likes
- 1,531
Why are they blurring out their faces? Their pictures should be plastered everywhere, especially on a milk carton with the caption “Missing”! Not one mention in the story about the gun one of them was waving around. It wouldn’t take much of a push for Boston to become Seattle East.
71montess
NES Member
Mayor Wu who's Boston, a multicultural showcase. Only answer is change the birthright amendment retroactively (lots of Haitian descendants) and mass deportation, throw in a island penal colony.
allen-1
NES Member
heh?
New video shows juveniles brutally attacking woman in Boston
The video shows a 20-year-old woman being beaten and kicked by a group of minors, one of them as young as 12 years old.
Just GTFO of the cities. They've never been good places to live and they're worse than ever.
I live amongst people who work for a living, many of them active or retired military. Adults, raising their children to go to school, to go to Church and to succeed in life.
Looking out my window right now, I see a quiet, landscaped neighborhood, and I know the people living in all the homes that I can see. My wife and I took the dogs for a walk yesterday afternoon, (I walk them in the morning, this was a "treat" for them). Stopped to BS with my dentist - he lives down the street and belongs to my gun club.
My dog slipped out yesterday, and I had to go after him, caught him in Chris's back yard. Chris stopped by later, he'd seen me on his camera and wanted to know if everything was okay. He's active duty, we know his wife and kids and he belongs to my gun club too.
My next door neighbor is a Coast Guard rescue swimmer, his wife's a teacher. His kids are running around the backyard right now playing with their dog. The wife of the pastor living on my other side is giving a piano lesson this morning, windows are open and I can hear it.
My wife is going to the Farmer's Market today with the neighbor who lives three houses down. She's a nurse, her husband is a physician on active duty. Tonight the the four of us are going to dinner at a local Italian restaurant.
Yesterday I ran errands in town. Post office, haircut, pharmacy, liquor store, grocery store, gas station. Everyone I encountered was polite - people treat people courteously here. It's a classic small southern town.
It's not to say that it's perfect here - but there's nothing like that video going on here.
i grew up in an outskirt of an industrial siberian city - i grew up with gangs like this. it is universal, worldwide and unavoidable thing.
moving away from gangsters solves nothing as they will always keep moving toward you, as you are the source of their income. the breaking point is to recognize when the society turns around from suppression of criminals toward suppression of taxpayers using criminals to terrorize citizens to justify raising ten fold policing forces and giving them - police - full freedom to operate against everybody without any restrictions.
and if you think you may run away from youth gangs - you will never be able to run away from gestapo when it decides to go after you. all those are just sequential steps of turning the whole society to something else from what it used to be. and we al lived through this in last 30 years - i still remember times when we could actually speak up our minds at lunch at work. not anymore.
![[laugh]](/xen/styles/default/xenforo/smilies.vb/012.gif "Laugh [laugh]")
AHM
NES Member
For reference,
this is what @cams was alluding to in ¶3 a couple of weeks ago.
But let that go.
Check out this recent tidbit of freakonomic analysis by Tucker.
I've posted this quote more than once:
The police aren’t there to protect the public from criminals.
They’re there to protect criminals from the public.
- Glenn "Instapundit" Reynolds
Now this is a forward-looking prediction,
based upon past history:
That if there is no one to uphold the law,
people will eventually take the law into their own hands.
That doesn't happen much now,
partially because of citizens' residual respect for the laws,
and partially because of perceptions of the risk of
getting caught taking the law into your own hands.
But as crime gets worse,
that changes everyone's individual risk/reward calculations.
However it turns out that if we squint,
we can see it operating even now.
People may shy away from rewarding someone who's done them wrong
with a free beating or dirt nap, but Mother Nature DGAF.
And statistical analysis hints that BLM protests making cops less enthusiastic
about enforcing laws on minorities -
either because of the risk that people won't respect their authority,
or will make false charges of bias,
or because courts will just cut them loose -
has two consequences: one prompt, and another one indirect:
- If you know that cops won't jack you up for Dumbassing, you'll Dumbass more.
- -and-
- The more you Dumbass, the more often you'll Meet Mr. Bridge Abutment.
Tucker Carlson: When the law is applied on the basis of skin color, people die
Fox News host Tucker Carlson provides insight on the crime spike crippling U.S. cities on 'Tucker Carlson Tonight.'
www.foxnews.com
