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nope. don' t say a thing. just tell cops to **** off.
Keep in mind that some states, other than MA, require you inform any officer on an official interaction (for example, traffic stop) that you are carrying. This does not always go well - google "Canton ohio harless" to see how it can go bad. And note, that even though the court found the charges bogus, he was fined $150 for "stopping in the road" since the system does not like to go away form a case unfed.
I was in a car with two other folks and the first thing the cop asked when stopped was "I smell gun powder, where are the guns" (I was carrying). 15 minutes and two backups later the driver was told "You are exercising you right as an American to be armed and that is a good thing, here is your warning for the violation". And this was is in a heavy moonbat town.
Keep in mind that some states, other than MA, require you inform any officer on an official interaction (for example, traffic stop) that you are carrying. This does not always go well - google "Canton ohio harless" to see how it can go bad. And note, that even though the court found the charges bogus, he was fined $150 for "stopping in the road" since the system does not like to go away form a case unfed.
I was in a car with two other folks and the first thing the cop asked when stopped was "I smell gun powder, where are the guns" (I was carrying). 15 minutes and two backups later the driver was told "You are exercising you right as an American to be armed and that is a good thing, here is your warning for the violation". And this was is in a heavy moonbat town.
So, the driver was carrying too or just you? How was it brought to light that you were carrying? Were you coming from the range? Was someone wearing gunpowder aftershave???
Rob uses "Eau de Hoppe's" with a sprinkle of gun powder as his cologne!
In Massachusetts are you legally required to tell the officer that you are carrying if you are pulled over for a traffic stop? I'm not asking if you should or shouldn't. I'm asking if there is a law stating that you have to. (I'm sure this has been asked in the past. Sorry for the repost if it has. I'm too lazy to search)
Rob uses "Eau de Hoppe's" with a sprinkle of gun powder as his cologne!
If the police officer ASKS you if you are carrying, that's when you are obliged to tell them.
Godfrey v. Wellesley. The appellate court held that while the plaintiff "may" have had a right to remain silent, and "may" be entitled to recourse, that recourse is not restoration of his firearms license.Although Rob will probably chime in and tell me of a case where someone exercised their 5A rights and was deemed "unsuitable" because of it.
We were on the way back from a match. I was the only one carrying. The officer decided since there were three people in the car he needed to see two LTCs. No disarming, get out of the car, just "don't move around too much".So, the driver was carrying too or just you? How was it brought to light that you were carrying? Were you coming from the range? Was someone wearing gunpowder aftershave???
Godfrey v. Wellesley. The appellate court held that while the plaintiff "may" have had a right to remain silent, and "may" be entitled to recourse, that recourse is not restoration of his firearms license.
This was pre-Heller. If this were to happen today, I would probably not have a problem getting the Comm2A executive committee (that approves case expenditures) to fund a case, as requiring someone to choose between two constitutional rights would make a strong federal case.
We were on the way back from a match. I was the only one carrying. The officer decided since there were three people in the car he needed to see two LTCs. No disarming, get out of the car, just "don't move around too much".
So much for saying you weren't looking for opinions on whether it was a good idea or not.However, it is always a good idea to let them know that you are carrying, are trained and have trust in their abilities. I usually shout "I have a gun and know how to use it, and I'm not afraid of you!". Works great.
Apologies to whoever I stole that from.
This post requires a one word answer which the first response gave...... how in the world has this continued on...In Massachusetts are you legally required to tell the officer that you are carrying if you are pulled over for a traffic stop? I'm not asking if you should or shouldn't. I'm asking if there is a law stating that you have to. (I'm sure this has been asked in the past. Sorry for the repost if it has. I'm too lazy to search)
Three people in the car, pulled over for a civil infraction, smell of gunpowder emanating from the car, back up called, and the officer decided he needed to see two LTCs, because you (a passenger) were carrying, coming from a match.
Sure, sounds legit.
Not to the police, but you do have to disclose to the salesperson that you're carrying when buying a pair of designer jeans.
Not to the police, but you do have to disclose to the salesperson that you're carrying when buying a pair of designer jeans.
Ladies really go for a dab of Break Free behind the ears. DAMHIK.
This post requires a one word answer which the first response gave...... how in the world has this continued on...
As others have said, there is no requirement in MA to disclose to an officer that you are carrying.
Or anything else other than license and registration. Keep your words to a minimum. They have no other business than why they pulled you over.
Agreed. When they talk to you they are trying to see if you have done anything else wrong. If you don't say anything, you can't say anything stupid.
A friend recently had to deal wit the police in CT over a domestic call. The cops came, separated the two of them and started asking questions. My friend said the cop was very cordial and empathetic. He said that he might have done the same thing in a similar situation. So my friend kept on talking, right into an arrest.
When I asked him about it I was astonished at his ignorance. So I sent him a link to an old police I & I (interview and interrogation) manual.
https://antipolygraph.org/documents/dodpi-interrogation.pdf
A few days later he called me. OH MY GOD. He was just working me, my friend said.
Of course he was.
Don
p.s. I STRONGLY advise that anyone who has not read one, read the pdf at this link. In it you will see WHY the cop is so empathetic. You will see WHY the cop minimizes what he thinks you might have done. In it, you will also see why it is not an even fight to go toe to toe while you are stressed out, with someone who has received probably hundreds of hours of training in this kind of thing.
https://antipolygraph.org/documents/dodpi-interrogation.pdf
+1I STRONGLY advise that anyone who has not read one, read the pdf at this link. In it you will see WHY the cop is so empathetic. You will see WHY the cop minimizes what he thinks you might have done. In it, you will also see why it is not an even fight to go toe to toe while you are stressed out, with someone who has received probably hundreds of hours of training in this kind of thing.
Agreed. When they talk to you they are trying to see if you have done anything else wrong. If you don't say anything, you can't say anything stupid.
A friend recently had to deal wit the police in CT over a domestic call. The cops came, separated the two of them and started asking questions. My friend said the cop was very cordial and empathetic. He said that he might have done the same thing in a similar situation. So my friend kept on talking, right into an arrest.
When I asked him about it I was astonished at his ignorance. So I sent him a link to an old police I & I (interview and interrogation) manual.
https://antipolygraph.org/documents/dodpi-interrogation.pdf
A few days later he called me. OH MY GOD. He was just working me, my friend said.
Of course he was.
Don
p.s. I STRONGLY advise that anyone who has not read one, read the pdf at this link. In it you will see WHY the cop is so empathetic. You will see WHY the cop minimizes what he thinks you might have done. In it, you will also see why it is not an even fight to go toe to toe while you are stressed out, with someone who has received probably hundreds of hours of training in this kind of thing.
https://antipolygraph.org/documents/dodpi-interrogation.pdf
No kidding! I took the "Reid Technique: Interview & Interrogation" one-day class back at the old police academy and can tell you that it is extremely effective. The instructor had a veteran officer as a volunteer and I swear that he would have admitted murdering his mother even if his mother was standing next to him at the time! Very impressive indeed.
And what law might that be lol? We arent hindering an investigation here, this is a traffic stop. No different from answering "one" when asked how many beers youve had.
The false information statute is in regards to your license info
I swear having my ltc gotten me out of tickets in my town Tewksbury. Every time I get pulled over first thing they ask if I'm carrying . Then I get verbal warnings for shit I could get my car towed for.