Shootout and explosions in Paris...

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What a tragic wake up call to the French. I haven't weighed in on this yet, as there's not much to add to what others here have said, but this might be a necessary tragedy to ignite a fire under the ass of Europe. What will be telling is how they deal with this, and what the response will be over the coming weeks/months.
 
The numbers are a lot better, but I bet it's still not more than single digit % every day carry rate amongst gun owners in most places.
Dont forget that in many states that have recently implemented "shall issue", there are plenty of "gun free zones" for targets. As a general rule, the older a carry permit system, the fewer "voids" - because the older systems were not born in an anti-gun environment, but were designed to enforce a class system regarding who could carry (ie, NY Sullivan law, etc.)
 
Anyone ever watch the movie "The Siege" w Denzel Washington? I feel like i am watching it play out in real life every time one of these attacks pops up!
 
People need to stop giving a shit about being called "racist" - and start telling the people who pull that card to go **** themselves.

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The response from the government will be to restrict freedom, increase government and in general screw it up

True, rather than forcibly deporting the cultists of death. It's cultural suicide by islime.
 
the french president told people to stay in their homes. hope they still have some good n heavy pastry rolling pins, because i dont think they are into golf much.
France has less gun control than the UK or Germany. Citizens are allowed pistols in their homes for defensive purposes.
 
Video of people dragging either bodies or wounded people out of the back of a building - doesn't say exactly what it was

 
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I typically carry my beretta 92fs with 3 10 round mags, just to avoid the extra hassle of fighting in court about my 15 rounders being preban. with the events of yesterday, dont care if cant afford to defend self with them, im carrying them from this point out as the extra 15 rounds between the 3 mags cant hurt.
 
What a tragic wake up call to the French. I haven't weighed in on this yet, as there's not much to add to what others here have said, but this might be a necessary tragedy to ignite a fire under the ass of Europe. What will be telling is how they deal with this, and what the response will be over the coming weeks/months.

There will be no wake up call. The gov will go on tv and deflect any blame away from their invaders. This will be a series of isolated incidents perpetrated by some individuals. There will be stern words for anyone thinking of taking the law into their own hands. People will complain around the water cooler and that will be that. I wouldnt be surprised if that refugee camp was set ablaze last night by its inhabitants.

The root of problem in Europe is the same as here- Leftists, progressives, liberals, communists, socialists- whatever they choose to call themselves. They are the root of the problem. They are the enablers, the financiers, educators, propagandists, shit-stirrers, etc. They must be dealt with first or else youre just playing whack-a-mole for the rest of your life. The problem in Western society is, average people have a hard time killing someone else because of their politics.
 
So what's missing in the news picture at this time?

We all agree that this is a horrible tragedy. Or do we? I don't see any news headlines where muslim leaders in France are condemning these attacks, or any mosque leaders are in uproar against these disgusting acts, or even any broad condemnation from any muslim nations.

Where are all these muslims that are supposedly against terror and extremism? Where? I don't see them anywhere. Their absence and silence speaks in volumes by itself.
 


Seriously - this is what I'm talking about. People need to learn how to look somebody in the face and tell them to **** off.

Why the hell are Muslim students GOING TO A CATHOLIC UNIVERSITY IN THE FIRST PLACE.

My first suspicion would be that they're just there to cause trouble. Which is why they should get told to **** off.
 
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so they had cells all over france. Can you imagine what is already here in the US thanks to the idiot in charge? Holy crap....

Can only imagine some coordinated attacks will take place here soon as well...since we have a lot of gun free zones an all.

Remember what Ron White says...."Profiling is wrong".

Good luck to us all.
 
Seriously - this is what I'm talking about. People need to learn how to look somebody in the face and tell them to **** off.

Why the hell are Muslim students GOING TO A CATHOLIC UNIVERSITY IN THE FIRST PLACE.

My first suspicion would be that they're just there to cause trouble. Which is why they should get told to **** off.

This is spot on.
 
This is true, but you still need people that have the heart and the skill to enact those SOPs. Unfortunately, you are getting day shift, which are likely the guys close to retirement... and... well....

Obviously, I'm broad-stroking it a bit with this brush, but not really that much.
I was watching / evaluating some training videos just recently (multiple angle cameras and go pro's) and needless to say most states local LE / SWAT need a lot of training, I mean a lot.

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Seriously - this is what I'm talking about. People need to learn how to look somebody in the face and tell them to **** off.

Why the hell are Muslim students GOING TO A CATHOLIC UNIVERSITY IN THE FIRST PLACE.

My first suspicion would be that they're just there to cause trouble. Which is why they should get told to **** off.

All they want is to force their beliefs on everyone, anyone that doesn't follow will be killed.
 
Seriously - this is what I'm talking about. People need to learn how to look somebody in the face and tell them to **** off.

Why the hell are Muslim students GOING TO A CATHOLIC UNIVERSITY IN THE FIRST PLACE.

My first suspicion would be that they're just there to cause trouble. Which is why they should get told to **** off.

Bingo! No Muslim school would accommodate ANYONE of any other faith and that's that. This kowtowing and catering on behalf of culture and sensitivity is really getting old. This video was a breath a fresh air.

PS-Jay Sekulow reminds me of Egon Spangler.
 
There will be no wake up call. The gov will go on tv and deflect any blame away from their invaders. This will be a series of isolated incidents perpetrated by some individuals. There will be stern words for anyone thinking of taking the law into their own hands. People will complain around the water cooler and that will be that. I wouldnt be surprised if that refugee camp was set ablaze last night by its inhabitants.

The root of problem in Europe is the same as here- Leftists, progressives, liberals, communists, socialists- whatever they choose to call themselves. They are the root of the problem. They are the enablers, the financiers, educators, propagandists, shit-stirrers, etc. They must be dealt with first or else youre just playing whack-a-mole for the rest of your life. The problem in Western society is, average people have a hard time killing someone else because of their politics.

The root of the problem is foreign policy and war that has created groups like ISIS as well as the refugee crisis.
 
I was always suspicious of our president but this whole open boarder thing has got some serious "red flags". I know its obvious to us but I still think half of the population have no idea we have open boards and terrorists are walking right in.

We need to talk about this every day from here on out with people we night not agree with. The narrative needs to shift from refugee sympathizers to friends and family safety. Follow the rules and laws currently on the books to limit this shit from happening here.

In my opinion its way too late but the less terrorists in our country the better. I bet shit really hits the fan after the president leaves office.
 
So what's missing in the news picture at this time?

We all agree that this is a horrible tragedy. Or do we? I don't see any news headlines where muslim leaders in France are condemning these attacks, or any mosque leaders are in uproar against these disgusting acts, or even any broad condemnation from any muslim nations.

Where are all these muslims that are supposedly against terror and extremism? Where? I don't see them anywhere. Their absence and silence speaks in volumes by itself.

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Nothing can really be done until this traitor commie regime we live under is gone. Only then can the military be let loose to make short work of these things.
 
I know a lot of you guys live under a rock but CC or no CC good luck getting into a crowded concert armed. Even if you could you probably wouldnt want to.

Ill also reiterate that those of you saying all Muslims are terrorists/evil/insane are morons... thats akin to saying all gun owners are adam lanzas.

Mike

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The root of the problem is foreign policy and war that has created groups like ISIS as well as the refugee crisis.

That part of the world has been in conflict for millennia. Why all of the sudden do you have such a huge stream of people? Afghanistan has been at war forever- Britian, Russia, the Taliban/Northern Alliance, US, why the sudden influx of Afghans? Africa has been a shithole since day one. Why the sudden influx of Ghanans, Sudanese, etc? Whose policies attract them? Who lets them stream across the "border"? Whose policies support them when they get to their destination?

Western foreign policy has had a hand in the shit going on in their countries? Fine. Why are they letting them in?
 
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