+1Just to add to this thread. I admit, I do occasionally get "drunk and make booms."
Its called a stink bomb which is made from excess gas. Clear out a room faster then tear gas from a swat team.
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+1Just to add to this thread. I admit, I do occasionally get "drunk and make booms."
Its called a stink bomb which is made from excess gas. Clear out a room faster then tear gas from a swat team.
The point I'm making is if you do it properly a bomb is just as safe as a round.
You still need to open a jar/jug of powder and so do I. You use your rounds in to a berm, I use my bomb in an empty open field. You get enjoyment from shooting a tight group, I get enjoyment out of making a 100ft mushroom cloud.
I've read in this thread that he drove to the gun shop with his daughter while drunk. I've read on this thread that it is known that makes and uses explosives while drunk.
Is any of this true?
How far do you want to carry this obey all the laws crap? This country was founded on breaking laws. If the common sense patriots who fought for, died for, and laid down a Constitution for this country had lived by the " obey all the laws even if you don't like them" creed that seems to infect a great many people in this country today - then we wouldn't even be living in this country - we would be living in a territory of the English empire.
is absurd, your position appears to be just as absurd in the opposite direction." obey all the laws even if you don't like them"
Ahhh, ya OK.As he has been building bombs for years without any sign the DA was going to prosecute, they should be estopped from doing so now. He relied on the police's unwillingness to arrest him throughout the years and, as such, assumed what he was doing was all but condoned by the police and the local DA.
Maybe that is where his lawyer is going.
Read the first thread if you have any question's about his drinking and making boom's
they are also ready to use and stored with toys in a garage...
Read the first thread if you have any question's about his drinking and making boom's
Guys...there is no way I am going to read this entire thread.
I know Jim. While I would always hesitate to turn anyone in for breaking oppressive laws which restrict our freedoms, Jim must have felt that this was an exceptional situation. I will give Jim the benefit of the doubt on this one.
Do we know that?
Something was stored in the garage. Was there even one that was ready to use?
Frank Middleton, the Plymouth assistant district attorney, said most of the bombs were made of PVC pipe, stuffed with black powder and equipped with a fuse. Some were made out of metal pipes, he said.
Frank Middleton, the Plymouth assistant district attorney, said most of the bombs were made of PVC pipe, stuffed with black powder and equipped with a fuse. Some were made out of metal pipes, he said.
i suppose it is harmless that this guy is making bombs, since he hasn't yet blown anyone up- however-
they are also ready to use and stored with toys in a garage...
i can't remember ever getting drunk, loading our guns storing them in a garage next to children's toys.
i would expect to be arrested if we were that negligent.
this guy deserves a flogging. what an a$$hat.
Certainly more than 20, unless you had help.
I don't know if I have the time to make it all the way through this thread, so I might be redundant here. If this point has already been made, sorry.
Many threads on this forum mock the media with its inaccuracy on reporting gun events.
I assume that a media report of a "pipe bomb" is as close to truth as when I see a report of an "assault weapon".
If the guy had materials to make some fireworks, the media would report it as pipe bombs, and amzingly to me, this forum adopted the "pipe bomb" formulation, and some have extended it to IEDs -- just to make sure we knew this was super illegal.
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The TV showed, from a helicopter, the destruction of some of the devices. From what I saw, it looked like they were blowing up some dud inch-and-a-halfers. I'm sure the squad was having fun getting to do their stuff, but it looked more of a show than a threat.
We don't even know what the explosive was, or if it needed to be mixed whether only the pre-cursors were on site. The guy might have three dozen pieces of 1/2 PVC and some chemicals. I know if that's all it was, the media (and the police) would be reporting it as pipe bombs anyway.
Well, definitely under 50. And we do know that someone else was going around and doing pretty much the same thing, but the rep screen here only shows the last 5 so mine probably buried his, if in fact there was another.
Thanks guys! Last night I night I had a dream I was in my car with my wife throwing out grenades and watching them blow up. I distinctly remember I was freaked out that someone would come by and try to pick it up before it went off. My mind in f***ed and so is this thread.
Just to add to this thread. I admit, I do occasionally get "drunk and make booms."
Its called a stink bomb which is made from excess gas. Clear out a room faster then tear gas from a swat team.
Regarding the EB man being drunk.
I read where the guy self-reported being drunk. Was he just "talking big" or did I miss where there seems to be clear evidence that he ever was drunk?
I've read in this thread that he drove to the gun shop with his daughter while drunk. I've read on this thread that it is known that makes and uses explosives while drunk.
Is any of this true?
Regardless, you acted like a childish fool who provided a perfect example of why people should be distrustful of people with power. Some people can't be trusted to act responsibly, and you never know who those people are.
The negative rep topic has been beaten enough.
To the extent that a neg rep = power, sure.
Martlett, I don't understand why you are coming down so hard on something you obviously know nothing about in this instance. Jim was very torn about doing what he did but was kind of forced into it by an officer when he asked his advice on what the officer would do in a similar situation.
This guy (ambrose) was acustomer of the shop and we actually kinda liked him, BUT, when he started to act irratiaticly and then the last straw was when he came in the shop drunk and was dragging his 6 year old daughter!
If you wan't to keep your mouth shut about such things that's your right but good citizens will and should do the right thing. personally, a lot of folks know me on here and know how I feel about cops and such, I think I would do the same thing given the same circumstances.
If you choose not to do business with us and want to try and make us sound like we did then that's fine, we would not want to do business with such a narrow minded person.
Jim is my friend and I am defending him, make no bones about it. I am not going to sit by and see narrow minded folks bash him as if he ratted out a law abiding citizen for purchasing a legal or ANY gun. We are NOT that kind of shop.
If you want to know the story, call the shop and I would be happy to tell you the truth, but don't bash the guy for doing what he felt was right even if you would have let this guy possibly hurt his family.
It's indicative of character, thus transferable.
^^ read the above for those who don't want to wade through numerous posts. The only person on this board who has had dealings with both parties.
Ah. Then since someone gets nutty drunk and does stupid shit, which I'm sure you and probably 90% of this forum has done at some point, it means that you're just as likely to do stupid shit when you have your guns on you too.
Same kind of power, translating up. The power to get trashed, and then the power to act irresponsibly with firearms or bombs. Hey, that translates perfectly to this entire story. Maybe you're right, maybe we shouldn't trust you or this guy or Jim Sheppard or anyone with firearms, because doing something dumb automatically means that you'll do something dumb every time you act, regardless of the circumstance or scale.
Ah. Then since someone gets nutty drunk and does stupid shit, which I'm sure you and probably 90% of this forum has done at some point, it means that you're just as likely to do stupid shit when you have your guns on you too.
Same kind of power, translating up. The power to get trashed, and then the power to act irresponsibly with firearms or bombs. Hey, that translates perfectly to this entire story. Maybe you're right, maybe we shouldn't trust you or this guy or Jim Sheppard or anyone with firearms, because doing something dumb automatically means that you'll do something dumb every time you act, regardless of the circumstance or scale.
Again, if he was such a danger to himself and others, why didn't they have a problem doing business with him? Why didn't they call the cops when he was drunk in their shop dragging his daughter around?
Sounds like they weren't that worried.
Odd. You just laid out my argument. Strange how it fits when you want it to.
where is this going? aside from whether being reported was right or wrong...
getting trashed and not having the ability to stay away from loaded guns and/or bombs while trashed is completely irresponsible...
just like it is wrong to hop into a car stinking drunk- even if you don't happen to kill anyone that particular time. it doesn't make it right.
i expect a neg rep point shortly btw