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Which 9mm carbine?
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Koolmoose
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I looked at both and bought a CX 4 Storm. The fugugly Star Wars look can grow on you. Moreover, ergonomically it is a most comfortable Gun to shoot.
mav
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9mm carbine is the bane of my collection.
I looked and relooked at all of the options and decided to go with an AR9. What a frustrating experience that was. I was not happy with how it was coming together and ended up just selling off the parts.
I still don’t have one. Maybe one day I’ll escape this state and have better options.
I looked and relooked at all of the options and decided to go with an AR9. What a frustrating experience that was. I was not happy with how it was coming together and ended up just selling off the parts.
I still don’t have one. Maybe one day I’ll escape this state and have better options.
rep308
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Check these guys out: CX4 Gunsmithing Services — Beretta CX4 Storm Accessories & Parts Upgrades
I pulled my trigger group out of my CX Storm and sent it to these guys for a trigger job. It feels much better, it had a Nintendo zapper feel before.
MaxStravinsky
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Anyone have any experience with the Extar EP9 ? Just watched a video where the guy recommended it, he said it takes Glock mags and is only about $400.
Could this possibly be ok here?
Could this possibly be ok here?
I picked neither of those carbines. I think the Ruger PCC is the best thing currently offered. dollar for dollar it's a deal.
I have the Marlin Camp 9mm , and they are like finding a unicorn these days....no one has one for sale.
So there....get the Ruger or find a Marlin.
The Marlin Camp 45 is even rarer than the 9. Takes 1911 magazines. I've wanted one forever but had to scratch the .45 carbine itch with a Hi Point. Sure would be nice if Ruger added a PC Carbine in .45.
I love my PCC's.
Currently own:
Vector
AR9
MP5 Clone (omega)
Sub 2K
Previously owned:
CZ scorpion
Beretta CX4 storm
If I had to pick one it's the mp5 clone all day. It's the most fun to shoot by a mile, looks great, works great, turns heads and its straight out of an action movie. There's really something special about the roller lock platform thats hard to describe until you've shot one.
AR9's are great because everyone knows the AR platform. Plenty of cross compatibility, endless upgrades.
Vector is fun but too heavy. The mechanics are interesting- but not necessary on a semi-auto 9mm. Full auto or a 10mm/45 is where the recoil system is felt.
Sub 2k is the best budget option. It's cute and compact, has lots of upgrades available. Takes glock mags.
Scorpion is a nice alternative but never saw range time. Hard to find regular cap mags. Storm was just too big, but a nice shooter.
Currently own:
Vector
AR9
MP5 Clone (omega)
Sub 2K
Previously owned:
CZ scorpion
Beretta CX4 storm
If I had to pick one it's the mp5 clone all day. It's the most fun to shoot by a mile, looks great, works great, turns heads and its straight out of an action movie. There's really something special about the roller lock platform thats hard to describe until you've shot one.
AR9's are great because everyone knows the AR platform. Plenty of cross compatibility, endless upgrades.
Vector is fun but too heavy. The mechanics are interesting- but not necessary on a semi-auto 9mm. Full auto or a 10mm/45 is where the recoil system is felt.
Sub 2k is the best budget option. It's cute and compact, has lots of upgrades available. Takes glock mags.
Scorpion is a nice alternative but never saw range time. Hard to find regular cap mags. Storm was just too big, but a nice shooter.
mav
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CZ scorpion Evo is easy to find mags:
Magpul mags
CZ brand mags
If you're looking locally, D&L Shooting Supply has mags and Scorpions. Honestly, it's one of the reasons I went with the CZ vs. other platforms... plenty of options for upgrades, parts, mags, etc.
ReluctantDecoy
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The standard stock design is terrible. It's overbuilt, with a design that is not very user friendly. I made my own back when I had this rifle. 3D printed a minimalist stock and a rubber butt pad. I created a mold with the 3D printed part and poured a rubber compound similar to a hockey puck for the final part. So it was stiff enough to not bend, but still had a tiny bit of compression. The rubber butt stock pad was poured with a softer rubber. I actually think I used Flexseal for that part...lol. Didn't need to be too thick, as the stock itself had a little compression. The last pic was a test fit with the 3D printed version. Still folded and locked.
Besides an AR in 9mm, the Hi Point and Kel Tecs are the only other PCC's out there on the market that I think are worth the money. The Sub 2000 because it uses the grip for the mag well and it folds, the Hi Point cuz cheap and works.
The Hi Point is probably going to be a more comfortable shooter given the heft and check weld, but the more practical one in terms of size and weight is the Kel Tec. The Kel Tec recoils pretty good tho.
The Hi Point is probably going to be a more comfortable shooter given the heft and check weld, but the more practical one in terms of size and weight is the Kel Tec. The Kel Tec recoils pretty good tho.
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Awhile ago I couldn't decide which I wanted more the 9MM or the .45 so i eventually acquired both Marlin Camp .45 and 9MM. The .45 is the winner with it taking 1911 mags , .45 has the scope on it. I tried the 9mm with a red dot too , Both guns are just a blast to shoot without all the extrakillyness black plastic parts on them. Pictures are from when I was searching for them , found them both on Gunbroker.com at fairly reasonable prices.
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The High Point is the Stacy Abrams of the PCC world, God! bulky and ugly as f***. What the hell is up with that butt stock. Good god!
Mesatchornug
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Come now, Space Gat FTMFW
Koolmoose
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Stage 1 at the match I shot this weekend. We were the last squad on the stage and we didn't break it down immediately so that Zack could run it with a gun other than the one he shot the match with.
I shot it with production and Carry Optic, he shot - well, watch the video for yourself.
View: https://www.facebook.com/ZMontano14/videos/10222815399281114/?t=0
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I have a JP GMR-13 (GMR-15 is current). Great gun, runs well, but the handguard is a bit heavy for my taste. My next project will be to replace it.
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I had a JP GMR 9mm SBR arrive at a shop on the day that shall live in infamy. The dealer could not transfer it to me (under the current thinking of the AGs edict, plus I would still need to wait for the stamp), so the dealer wrote out a check to JP for the retail price because he liked it so much. I haven't SBR'd a PCC yet, but I did get a JP upper/lower from inventory that was a gun, and used a Rock River conversion unit to accept Colt and converted UZI mags. Runs great; just does not have last round bolt hold-open with the converted UZI mags.
