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Shotgun Capacity/Questiions in Massachusetts
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As long as you buy it from the FFL, yes.
Yes.
Just make sure that the gun that you buy does not violate the AWB and remember to file the FA-10.
Confused & bewildered again. Boy it seems the more I read & try to decipher MGL the more I need an aspirin !
I'm trying to understand the rule before my next purchase of a semi automatic shotgun. Mossberg 930 spx and the so called "Hi-capisity" magazines that may be available.
According to this http://www.malegislature.gov/Laws/Ge...140/Section121 we are not allowed to install a pistol grip Correct or not ?
No more that a 10 round mag. Correct or not ?
How about folding stock Yes / no ?
Anything else I should be aware of before purchase ?
And Yes, I have a LTC-A Hi capacity no restrictions LIC.
I'm trying to understand the rule before my next purchase of a semi automatic shotgun. Mossberg 930 spx and the so called "Hi-capisity" magazines that may be available.
According to this http://www.malegislature.gov/Laws/Ge...140/Section121 we are not allowed to install a pistol grip Correct or not ?
No more that a 10 round mag. Correct or not ?
How about folding stock Yes / no ?
Anything else I should be aware of before purchase ?
And Yes, I have a LTC-A Hi capacity no restrictions LIC.
My understanding is that you are allowed only one evil feature or you run afoul of the assault weapons ban -- pistol grip, or folding stock, or > 5 round magazine, or flash suppressor, or bayonet lug (and I'm probably forgetting some).
Large capacity for a shotgun is more than 5 round magazine. More than 10 is for pistols and rifles. If you don't have any other evil features on the shotgun, then you could have a large capacity magazine on it. The thing is, however, I believe that magazine has to be pre-ban -- manufactured prior to 9/15/94. Since the 930 spx didn't exist in '94, I think you are stuck there.
Again, that is an evil feature. You only get one.
The evil features for a shotgun are pistol grip, folding/telescoping stock, >5 round capacity, detachable magazine.
It's the position of Ron Glidden that fixed tube magazines do not count as LCAFDs. That's not how I read the law, but that's what Glidden says. Four Seasons and Dick's both sell shotguns with 7/8 round tubes(with fixed, non-pistol-grip stocks).
Wow. That's not how I read the law either, but IANAL (and neither is Glidden).
I seem to remember reading here at some point that during the fed ban, shotgun tubes were exempted somehow. Perhaps that's what he's going off of?
You can't have both a folding/telescoping stock and a pistol grip. I don't know of any folding or telescoping stucks that don't have a pistol grip, but there could be one out there.
I think you could get a Saiga 12, provided that it doesn't have a folding stock and you use 5 round magazines (though that kind of defeats the purpose).
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Correct me if I am wrong but if you need your tool kit to detach the feeding tube then it's not really 'detachable' ? If that were the case then my M&P 15 stock, new from the factory (pinned and screwed) would be 'adjustable' with a couple of tools?
Ya, she sure is sweet all decked out. Are the Saiga 12 known to be reliable ? I would think if properly maintained (cleaned) it would be.
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There are many ambiguities in MGLs, and also logican contradictions. One that I point out to people unfailliar with the confusion: A handgun in your glove box is generally not considered "under your direct control", but a bag of weed under it in the glove box, would be.
It also has to be properly built - do a search on the Saiga-12 forum for 'vodka special'.
Mine game from the factory with 2 gas ports, instead of the normal 4. Unfortunately, I bought it used with no warranty, and had to pay a smith to get busy with a drill, but it was worth the money.
Heads the DA wins, tails you lose.
It is/was the ATF's opinion that a thumbhole stock = pistol grip.
I'm sure MA would have no problem going along with that.
Saiga 12 conversion = no-go in MA.
That was not my understanding. It was the ATF's opinion that a thumbhole stock was NOT a pistol grip. That was why you saw a lot of post-ban AK's with ridiculous stocks like this:
I have read it both ways. I guess I ask the ATF for a letter to clear it up.
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That was not my understanding. It was the ATF's opinion that a thumbhole stock was NOT a pistol grip. That was why you saw a lot of post-ban AK's with ridiculous stocks like this:
That was not my understanding. It was the ATF's opinion that a thumbhole stock was NOT a pistol grip. That was why you saw a lot of post-ban AK's with ridiculous stocks like this:
First it was okay. Then they...get ready for it...changed their minds.
Obviously there is nothing on the books about the subject in MA, but my guess is they would call it a pistol grip without flinching.
After a whole bunch of people had bought rifles with a thumbhole stock? Just great.![[thinking]](/xen/styles/default/xenforo/smilies.vb/010.gif "Thinking [thinking]")
Yeah. Kind of like when a whole bunch of people bought silencers and didn't know it. That one was their screw up though, so out of the goodness of their heats they allowed the issue to be 'corrected'.
I read someplace, and no I cant find the site/quote/etc to reference that they reason a tube fed pump shotgun isn't high capacity is because the tube, when removed from the gun, is not a "Magazine" as it will not hold rounds (they fall out) and is thus just a piece of pipe. There was more to it, but I cant remember it all.
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ARV pretty much has it covered. That's the current thoughts of EOPS.
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