namedpipes
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I guess this is going to have to be standard issue in NYC if people agree this was a righteous shootout:
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I'm assuming you mean standard issue for the civilians, right?
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I guess this is going to have to be standard issue in NYC if people agree this was a righteous shootout:
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An earlier report claimed that at least one person said they were hit directly with a bullet.The CNN article is ****ing painful. I'm sure the sheep are eating it up too.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/24/justice/new-york-empire-state/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
****ing flower pots? Are we sure it wasn't pieces of sunshine, lollipops or rainbows?
Police officers fired a total of 16 rounds; one officer shot nine while another one shot seven, the New York Police Department said.
ugh, I guess they need a stronger trigger pull, 12 lbs. is too light for NYPD
I also do not disagree that your target needs to be clear. 2 cops are walking a beat and a madman opens up on someone. Cops take a oath to serve and protect. I cannot imagine what must have been going through thier minds..guy has killed someone and is now pointing his weapon at them...What would you do? Open up even though you do not have a clear target picture? Standby and hope for one or move to get one? All of this happening in about 3-5 seconds.
I believe I saw a different scenario, though, it was the same video. In the video I saw, the gunman was no threat to the pedestrians, the cops that initiated the encounter and escalated the situation to the point of dumping their magazines into a crowded area WHERE the threat to the public and that threat was fulfilled.
i just heard on the news they said the perps gun "jammed"
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/08/2...-victims-hit-by-police-gunfire/#ixzz24bhh7ALzAll nine people wounded during a dramatic confrontation between police and a gunman outside the Empire State Building were struck by bullets fired by the two officers, police said Saturday, citing ballistics evidence.
Translation: he failed to disengage the safety
More like, translation: cover our ass, we (Bloomberg) must say he was trying to shoot.
Did I read it correctly, the police fired 16 rounds from ~10' and hit him only 3 times?
Matthews had drawn attention this year by suing the New York Police Department, accusing his superiors of unfairly punishing him for not meeting arrest quotas. A judge threw out the complaint.
Arrest quotas. Awesome. Is that anything like a mandatory number of Jews you must round up? And the complaint gets dismissed, so quotas as thereby encouraged and supported by law. Super dee dooper.
Like many police officers, PO Schoolcraft joined the NYPD to help people and serve communities plagued by real crime; instead he was faced with enormous pressure to harass law abiding people in order to fudge statistics. Morally opposed to these policies, PO Schoolcraft refused to follow these unlawful orders and was met with retaliation from the highest levels of the NYPD. This ultimately culminated in an attempt to forcibly silence and discredit him; on October 31, 2009, several high ranking NYPD officials illegally entered PO Schoolcraft’s home, forcibly removed him in handcuffs, seized his personal effects, including evidence he had gathered documenting NYPD corruption, and had him admitted to Jamaica Hospital Center against his will, under the false pretense that he was “emotionally disturbed.”
This has been posted on here before but it worth sharing again http://http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/414/right-to-remain-silent
http://schoolcraftjustice.com/
Problem is, he did not throw the bag down and put his hands up. He pulled out the gun and turned toward the police.
[video]http://nyti.ms/R8O4UK[/video]
My point is that the job of the police is to put their lives in harms way in order to protect us.
. . . I contrast this with ZERO shots missed by my local PD and Sheriff's departments in an unprecedented 7 officer involved shootings in 12 months in the last year. . . .
whoa whoa whoa, what on earth ever gave you this idea?