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One Scott Wadland was shocked, shocked, to observe a uniformed security guard apparently commuting to work with his holstered firearm. "Are there any policies in place (like those on Amtrak) that prohibit weapons on the train?" he asked.

No. "The carrying of firearms in Massachusetts is governed and controlled by Massachusetts General Law," said John Martino, MBTA Transit Police Deputy Chief. "Persons with a valid permit may carry firearms as allowed, and in accordance with, any and all restrictions noted on the permit."

From today's Boston Globe, Northwest Section, p. 3.
 

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Original article: http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2008/03/30/hes_desperately_seeking_parking/

The Super Moonbat part:
"As I was walking down the platform, I noticed a man in front of me with a Wackenhut Security uniform who was carrying a firearm in a holster on his belt. After getting on the train, I was not sure if I should notify the conductor, for fear of starting a panic on the train.
I guess it would be a real panic if the conductor was told there was a uniformed guard from one of the name brand, recognized agencies, commuting on his train.
 

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I think law abiding citizens should be encouraged to carry on the T. When I take it into south station I usually see some pretty shady people walking around.
 

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I think law abiding citizens should be encouraged to carry on the T. When I take it into south station I usually see some pretty shady people walking around.
South is paradise compared to Back Bay or Ruggles. The latter being the scene of the famous mugging by a pistol wielding man confined to a wheel chair as recalled by me and some other Wentworth alumni here recently.
 
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South is paradise compared to Back Bay or Ruggles. The latter being the scene of the famous mugging by a pistol wielding man confined to a wheel chair as recalled by me and some other Wentworth alumni here recently.
I get off for work in back bay everyday. It's not that bad (if you're there when no one's getting stabbed). No really, I don't think back bay is all that bad compared stops in murderpan or roxbury.

That said i would carry on the T if my company wasn't a victim disarmament zone. Other than work though i don't go into Meninostan much unless it's to drink and I obviously wouldn't carry if I was hitting the sauce.
 

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I get off for work in back bay everyday. It's not that bad (if you're there when no one's getting stabbed). No really, I don't think back bay is all that bad compared stops in murderpan or roxbury.

That said i would carry on the T if my company wasn't a victim disarmament zone. Other than work though i don't go into Meninostan much unless it's to drink and I obviously wouldn't carry if I was hitting the sauce.
I agree. You're perfectly safe when standing on the platform and all the other sheeple are around to protect you from the wolves.[laugh]

I've been really weirded out in the back bay bathroom with people hanging around and making odd eye contact with each other. A friend of mine had a similar experience. Some dudes pretend like their washing hands or using the urinals and give each other the look like, 'this one? should we rob this one?'
 
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I don't understand going to restrooms in places like that. It just seems like the height of unawareness to me. Those places are just trouble with a capital T. There are plenty of safer alternatives if you think about it for a second.

Unless I was in the process of dying I wouldn't even think about it.

Same thing with rest stops at night. It's a suicide mission. Every other interstate exit has a hotel or motel with clean rest rooms off the lobby.
 

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I don't understand going to restrooms in places like that. It just seems like the height of unawareness to me. Those places are just trouble with a capital T. There are plenty of safer alternatives if you think about it for a second.
Believe you me, if I could have avoided it I would have.
 
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Ahhh..Ruggles. I walk through there twice a day going to work. I have a Class A ALP and this Friggin state keeps me from carrying.

Some shady folks there for sure........
 

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Ruggles is flanked by Northeastern Univ. All of the buildings around there are NEU. Not sure if Harmar works there but you'll have to be carful to stay on the public zone and not accidently go into the school buildings.
 

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You do not need to cary a gun in Boston. The mayor and the police chief guaranty everyone's safety. That is why they do not issue ALP pistol permits. It is so safe in Boston that the mayor has a police car outside his house 24 a day and a cop that is with him all day.
 
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You do not need to cary a gun in Boston. The mayor and the police chief guaranty everyone's safety. That is why they do not issue ALP pistol permits. It is so safe in Boston that the mayor has a police car outside his house 24 a day and a cop that is with him all day.

I think that there is a bit of hyperbole here. Come, come now. Certainly the government of Boston does not intend to lead anyone on to believe that the government offers a guarantee of personal safety to all its citizens. Oh, no. Not at all.

Why, that would open up far to many avenues of civil litigation.

No, the bosses of Boston only wish to reassure the public that fewer guns on the street means safer streets.

And lots of Boston residents seem to believe it.

So, please leave your gun at home, and enjoy our beautiful city in peace.

[puke]
 

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"The carrying of firearms in Massachusetts is governed and controlled by Massachusetts General Law," said John Martino, MBTA Transit Police Deputy Chief. "Persons with a valid permit may carry firearms as allowed, and in accordance with, any and all restrictions noted on the permit."
I got the same answer when I inquired a few years back. The private bus line I used to reach South Station had a No Weapons policy, but the MBTA was my concern.
 

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South is paradise compared to Back Bay or Ruggles. The latter being the scene of the famous mugging by a pistol wielding man confined to a wheel chair as recalled by me and some other Wentworth alumni here recently.
I remember the "wheel chair guy". It was a damned THREE WHEEL ELECTRIC wheelchair too, not just one of the standard jobs.
[laugh].

There also was another incident at ruggles where some thugs roughed up a student and ended up throwing his hat onto the tracks at the end, among others.

IMO its one of the more dangerous stops along the Orange
line.. I'm glad I didn't have to ride on that thing too often
in general.

FWIW I was at WIT in the fall of 97 and spring of 98.

-Mike
 
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South is paradise compared to Back Bay or Ruggles. The latter being the scene of the famous mugging by a pistol wielding man confined to a wheel chair as recalled by me and some other Wentworth alumni here recently.
Another Wentworth Alum. here...
I commuted for a year on the train, and definitely observed the shady characters. Didn't have my LTC then though.
 

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I remember the "wheel chair guy". It was a damned THREE WHEEL ELECTRIC wheelchair too, not just one of the standard jobs.
[laugh].

There also was another incident at ruggles where some thugs roughed up a student and ended up throwing his hat onto the tracks at the end, among others.

IMO its one of the more dangerous stops along the Orange
line.. I'm glad I didn't have to ride on that thing too often
in general.

FWIW I was at WIT in the fall of 97 and spring of 98.

-Mike
I graduated in 98 as an environmental engineer.

There was this girl Maura that lived on campus and she was pretty tough. Once some young guys demanded money from her at Ruggles and she pulled out a knife and said, "you want this?". The guys moved along. If you met Maura you would too.

I talked to some students that lived on campus during the Charles Stewart Mission Hill fiasco and they said at one point they were in Edwards/Rodgers and the mini race riot outside started stoning the building. So compared to that and the big Mission Hill evening raid of 1995(?), the area is actually much better.
 
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I graduated in 98 as an environmental engineer.

There was this girl Maura that lived on campus and she was pretty tough. Once some young guys demanded money from her at Ruggles and she pulled out a knife and said, "you want this?". The guys moved along. If you met Maura you would too.

I talked to some students that lived on campus during the Charles Stewart Mission Hill fiasco and they said at one point they were in Edwards/Rodgers and the mini race riot outside started stoning the building. So compared to that and the big Mission Hill evening raid of 1995(?), the area is actually much better.
I was in school at the time of Carol Dimatti Stewart fiasco (Soph at MIT) and I was checked while going home during that time. It was late Oct of 1989 not 95. Charles "jumped" or "escorted" off the Tobin Bridge Jan 1990. It showed a side of Boston/Massachusetts that was thought long dormant. In a flash I saw Boston just like it was in the early 70's. The only people that showed any class were the people that lost the most, the Dimatti saw beyond their personal tragedy of losing a daughter and a grandson and tried to heal a city, a state, a country that started to implode along racial lines.

Fee
 

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I was in school at the time of Carol Dimatti Stewart fiasco (Soph at MIT) and I was checked while going home during that time. It was late Oct of 1989 not 95. Charles "jumped" or "escorted" off the Tobin Bridge Jan 1990. It showed a side of Boston/Massachusetts that was thought long dormant. In a flash I saw Boston just like it was in the early 70's. The only people that showed any class were the people that lost the most, the Dimatti saw beyond their personal tragedy of losing a daughter and a grandson and tried to heal a city, a state, a country that started to implode along racial lines.

Fee
Geez, that brings back memories. Pity that one of the recipients of the DiMaiti fund was subsequently murdered. [sad]
 
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I was in school at the time of Carol Dimatti Stewart fiasco (Soph at MIT) and I was checked while going home during that time. It was late Oct of 1989 not 95. Charles "jumped" or "escorted" off the Tobin Bridge Jan 1990. It showed a side of Boston/Massachusetts that was thought long dormant. In a flash I saw Boston just like it was in the early 70's. The only people that showed any class were the people that lost the most, the Dimatti saw beyond their personal tragedy of losing a daughter and a grandson and tried to heal a city, a state, a country that started to implode along racial lines.

Fee
I recall Chucky Stuart, and the Mission Hill neighborhood aftermath .... "How DARE they blame US for a murder?" I was working as an environmental chemist at the time, in Newton Upper Falls, with a couple of Wentworth gearhead guys on staff, BTW.

Soooo .... Did you hear they opened a new restaurant under the Tobin Bridge? Yeah, it's called ...



























Chuck's Landing.
[smile]
 
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I recall Chucky Stuart, and the Mission Hill neighborhood aftermath .... "How DARE they blame US for a murder?" I was working as an environmental chemist at the time, in Newton Upper Falls, with a couple of Wentworth gearhead guys on staff, BTW.

Soooo .... Did you hear they opened a new restaurant under the Tobin Bridge? Yeah, it's called ...



















Chuck's Landing.
[smile]
That was horrible [rofl]

I don't think the major issue was that a "black" person was accused, the issue was how everybody responded to it. People know in general that murders occur in Roxbury/Dorchester/Mattapan. That is what high crime area mean. The issue was when a Black person is killed in that neighborhood, it isn't national news. When Carol was killed, it was national news. Boston Police felt it was their duty to catch the criminal (Which I applaud) why isn't that way all the time? That is what the murder brought to the nation, that is the stain we endure even now being from Massachusetts/Boston. We are equal as far as the law but not always equal in importance.

Fee
 

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No. DGA (you never heard of them ... small pollution contol company ... mostly stack emissions testing). GZA was around the corner, though. Used to catch a few beers at the Biltmore, in those days.
Dave Gordon Associates - I don't know Dave that well but I've worked on a few projects with him and also worked with DGA people at another company. I'm in the emissions biz now.

Biltmore actually renovated last year but I haven't been in there since. I here it's 'nice'.
 
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Dave Gordon Associates - I don't know Dave that well but I've worked on a few projects with him and also worked with DGA people at another company. I'm in the emissions biz now.

Biltmore actually renovated last year but I haven't been in there since. I here it's 'nice'.
Man, it's a small world! I was at DGA 1988-92, as best I can recall.
 

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No, the bosses of Boston only wish to reassure the public that fewer guns on the street means safer streets.
Well, in some respects, the thinking is true.

Fewer guns on the streets, in the homes, and otherwise around, certainly make things a LOT safer for the criminals.

I mean, imagine trying to knock over the local mini-mart having to fear being shot. Not in Boston, the local hood can casually rob and not fear the victim ruining his day.
 
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