I don't understand why there's even a conversation. Sure, the police need to investigate. But what's with the 6 page thread? Somebody killed themselves. Not to sound trite, but it happens every day.
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with this person finding this guy on the ground, the M.E. can determine how long he was deceased, and with a man who found the guy, a alibi like is wife seeing him leave in the morning will rule this guy out soon.
My sympathies for your loss.Brian was a co-worker and friend of mine. I was unaware this was how he passed, as I'm currently out in San Francisco on vacation. This is tragic news. He was a long time gun enthusiast, great guy, and a good friend. He was passionate about firearm rights, and was a member of NRA, GOAL, etc. So I'd ask for those of you that think this is selfish to change your opinion. Brian had quite a lot of stress on his plate - I just didn't realize it would come to this. My condolences go out to Brian's family... he will be missed.
Brian was a co-worker and friend of mine. I was unaware this was how he passed, as I'm currently out in San Francisco on vacation. This is tragic news. He was a long time gun enthusiast, great guy, and a good friend. He was passionate about firearm rights, and was a member of NRA, GOAL, etc. So I'd ask for those of you that think this is selfish to change your opinion. Brian had quite a lot of stress on his plate - I just didn't realize it would come to this. My condolences go out to Brian's family... he will be missed.
I don't understand why there's even a conversation. Sure, the police need to investigate. But what's with the 6 page thread? Somebody killed themselves. Not to sound trite, but it happens every day.
I am sincerely sorry for the loss of your friend.Brian was a co-worker and friend of mine. I was unaware this was how he passed, as I'm currently out in San Francisco on vacation. This is tragic news. He was a long time gun enthusiast, great guy, and a good friend. He was passionate about firearm rights, and was a member of NRA, GOAL, etc. So I'd ask for those of you that think this is selfish to change your opinion. Brian had quite a lot of stress on his plate - I just didn't realize it would come to this. My condolences go out to Brian's family... he will be missed.
That said, I have to point out that suicide is always selfish. Suicidal thoughts always reflect self-absorbed thought. This is not a condemnation, certainly not of your friend, it's simply how the thought process works.
I am sincerely sorry for the loss of your friend.
That said, I have to point out that suicide is always selfish. Suicidal thoughts always reflect self-absorbed thought. This is not a condemnation, certainly not of your friend, it's simply how the thought process works.
He did not do this at home, most likely because he did not want his loved ones to find him. That's not selfish.
I must say I really think it's a waste of time trying to reason through the logic of someone who commits suicide. It's a little like trying to understand why someone would vote for Nancy Pelosi...Instead, he did it on someone elses property. :\
The person this thread is about, choose to end his own life. He did not do this at home, most likely because he did not want his loved ones to find him. That's not selfish.
I am sincerely sorry for the loss of your friend.
That said, I have to point out that suicide is always selfish. Suicidal thoughts always reflect self-absorbed thought. This is not a condemnation, certainly not of your friend, it's simply how the thought process works.
NO? Let's review. This firearms enthusiast:
1. Killed himself with a GUN;
2. AT the gun club he BELONGED to;
3. Leaving a mess for someone ELSE to find;
4. Someone ELSE to clean up; and
5. Someone - and something - ELSE to be investigated as part of that death.
Not exactly an act of enlightened analysis.
I must say I really think it's a waste of time trying to reason through the logic of someone who commits suicide.
Great guys, that's just great. Our community lost a member, a family lost a son, someone who posted in this very thread lost their friend, and you're harping on how inconsiderate he was? If his mind was running on the same tracks that yours is right now he'd probably still be here.
I have not harped, and I didn't call him inconsiderate. I was very sincere in offering my condolences.Great guys, that's just great. Our community lost a member, a family lost a son, someone who posted in this very thread lost their friend, and you're harping on how inconsiderate he was?