chris_1001
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Is 10mm good for Super Pig's?
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.357 vs 44 mag vs 10mm Bear gun
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S&W 686plus,7 shot 357 in a Diamond D chest holster. Corabond loads
S&W 686plus 357, corabond loads,diamond d Denali chest holster. Great rig for walking,atv,snow machine,fishing or horse. Let's all 2 and 4 leg critters know you are carrying. Have same setup for Alaska where I work only in 44 mag.
I would definitely carry both bear spray and a firearm in real bear country (not that I go anywhere remotely resembling that, as my Achilles' will not let me hike), but I have a feeling most predatory bear attacks (a rare event), the bear is on you before you know it. But if you have a friend there he can shoot at the thing/avenge you. My only handgun more powerful than 9mm is my FK Brno PSD. 100 grain slug, 2,000 fps. Maybe not ideal for a big bear. Since I can't hike distances anyway, I would carry that. I love that thing. I have been waiting for the compact version to come out.
peterk123
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10MM.... isn't that just a fancy name for a 40? Haha
9mm and or bear spray for me. And I hang out smack in the middle of the greatest concentration of grizzlies in the lower 48. I carry the 357 once in a while but it is a lot of extra weight. Not fond it. Black bears in NH? I wouldn't worry about it. But if you want bear protection, shoot what you can shoot accurately. Tough to be the accuracy of bear spray, kind of like a shotgun.
Black bears are not going to stalk you and the bulk of their diet are plants. So it probably won't charge you because you are near his food. Your only, very slight, worry is a sow with cubs.
For what it's worth, the odds of you pulling a gun successfully on a bear that you surprise is quite low. These encounters don't start from 100 feet away. It's more like 20 feet.
9mm and or bear spray for me. And I hang out smack in the middle of the greatest concentration of grizzlies in the lower 48. I carry the 357 once in a while but it is a lot of extra weight. Not fond it. Black bears in NH? I wouldn't worry about it. But if you want bear protection, shoot what you can shoot accurately. Tough to be the accuracy of bear spray, kind of like a shotgun.
Black bears are not going to stalk you and the bulk of their diet are plants. So it probably won't charge you because you are near his food. Your only, very slight, worry is a sow with cubs.
For what it's worth, the odds of you pulling a gun successfully on a bear that you surprise is quite low. These encounters don't start from 100 feet away. It's more like 20 feet.
"Because the 7.5 FK develops the same muzzle energy as the hottest 357 Magnum rounds, it’s necessary to add mass to the slide in order to slow things down to the point where the pistol doesn’t attempt to disassemble itself at every shot. To this end, its slide walls are considerably wider than usual, taking it about as far as possible before things start looking like a Hi-Point. Despite being thick, there’s a certain curviness to the slide profile which is aesthetically pleasing, and the front third is reminiscent of pocket autos of the early 20th century."
Meh, .357 Sig anyone?
It's alright if you can't afford one."Because the 7.5 FK develops the same muzzle energy as the hottest 357 Magnum rounds, it’s necessary to add mass to the slide in order to slow things down to the point where the pistol doesn’t attempt to disassemble itself at every shot. To this end, its slide walls are considerably wider than usual, taking it about as far as possible before things start looking like a Hi-Point. Despite being thick, there’s a certain curviness to the slide profile which is aesthetically pleasing, and the front third is reminiscent of pocket autos of the early 20th century."
Meh, .357 Sig anyone?
I wouldn't waste the money on one. Sounds too much like other, more common, calibers.
widnerkj
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Springfield ronin?
Mark from MA
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Stop it. People need a reason to buy 10mm
Mesatchornug
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Heck, 10mm has higher muzzle energy; Glock didn't make the slides particularly massive. And Coonan used to put 357 mag in a 1911."Because the 7.5 FK develops the same muzzle energy as the hottest 357 Magnum rounds, it’s necessary to add mass to the slide in order to slow things down to the point where the pistol doesn’t attempt to disassemble itself at every shot. To this end, its slide walls are considerably wider than usual, taking it about as far as possible before things start looking like a Hi-Point. Despite being thick, there’s a certain curviness to the slide profile which is aesthetically pleasing, and the front third is reminiscent of pocket autos of the early 20th century."
Meh, .357 Sig anyone?
Mesatchornug
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So the 40 isn't fast enough to expand? Good to know.
edin508
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Looks that way from the pic.
Yeah, this got me too. I'm going to get a utilitarian 10mm and also a 1911 in .45. Probably a M&P performance center 10mm (because sig's p320 xten doesn't have a safety).
No, I don't. Well, not a good one.
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Which.....might be OK if you need good penetration on things like bears coming head on.
Most of the NES stud club is more worried about good penetration on pigs
That was an interesting graphic. Something it misses is how much energy is dumped into the target though one could infer more due to the expansion. Watch 10mm hit steel plates vs. 9mm vs. .40.
edin508
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Here is the full article for the graphic.
Is 10mm a Viable Self-Defense Caliber? - Lucky Gunner Lounge
Is 10mm a Viable Self-Defense Caliber? - Lucky Gunner Lounge
widnerkj
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That lucky gunner crap is deceiving. 10mm factory ammo lately has been sad and disappointing. It’s basically .40 in disguise. Whereas loading like the original load that made FBI agents cry. Was a 180 JHP at 1300 FPS.
chris_1001
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My reason is "Because" thank you very much....
fencer
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"your safety is between your ears!" - an old man that complains about more than one shot being fired per second before hobbling off due to glock leg
My practical bear / antifa shithole dumpster city gun is a G20 with a KKM barrel. My impractical favorite is this late gen 1 Delta Elite:
I have the original pebble grain grip which I think looks way better but want to preserve it as I carry this.
I have the original pebble grain grip which I think looks way better but want to preserve it as I carry this.
Had an original, also. Miss mine.
The Delta Elite was always my #1 bucket list gun since I was a kid. The LGS that was walking distance from our place in the mountains always had one prominently featured in their display case. The store owner was very nice and totally tolerant of me stepping in every once in a while to ogle them.
I just found and ordered a spare original pebble grain grip. I'm a total dork for being so pumped to put it back in an OEM grip while preserving its original.
chris_1001
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I’d love to have an original blued one.
Load dependent, though: 10mm target ammo is like +P .40.
