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This is the reason people never shower before going to a gun show, you got to mask the smell somehow ...
on a more serious note, there no reason to bring Man into your life. This is a club matter that could have been resolved without getting lawr involved.
1. Just because one of them reeked of pot, it doesn't mean he used it. Did he? Was he under?
2. Tired and distracted drivers are same if not worse than drunks driving. Fact. If those were indeed high, do as you do with any idiot (and holy shit there are many of them) at the range. Get club officer involved, you ARE the club, it's your choice to be part of it and how to deal with idiot members.
3. The lawrs are not lawrs, we have jury nullification for a reason. Use your discretion. I guarantee you if those two were another set of off-duty "trained professionals" you'd not hear about it.
This.Seems like there's some debate on the forum whether or not these two 2nd Amendment supporters are indeed guilty. Well, the NES standard always reverts to appearance so I did some research to find some mugshots or something-
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OK, under the influence perhaps debatable. But PP / heroin dealer? No defending that. These two idiots were asking for it and I'm more likely to believe the under the influence charge. Honestly, if anything this is another example of MA gun laws punish the innocent and do NOTHING to keep guns out of the hands of cretins like these two.
But let's not miss an opportunity to bash cops and ridicule members who don't welcome stoned shooters at their range.
There are many who would not be comfortable confronting a couple of numbnuts who might be high when shooting. I would, but I'm the club officer responsible for the range and I can't imagine leaving such a danger to others. They would be directed to leave and not return, pending notice from the board. If the club decided to give them another chance, so be it. Excepting rare circumstances, I'd be reluctant to involve the Man in my life.
However, I disagree that there are 'no' reasons to bring the Man in your life...
Idiots like this probably have a less than 50% chance of listening to reasonable authority, thus if they were to push back that's when it becomes a problem for the professionals. I've been shot at by a**h***s drinking and had no problem involving 'the man'. In a canoe with nowhere to go and they barely missed my niece. F 'em.
I think that by confronting we are talking about just talking. Some clubs are small, some big and no way to know everyone. If people want to be a**h***s, there is no need to shoot them. It's a private club, members can figure this out or leave the club at their volition.
I do despise when people shit their pants, talk nice to you, then make a report behind your back. It sucks that at a range, and among your fellow Ma**h*** shooters you have to be on guard talking to people about a fundamental right.
That sounds like attempted murder or criminal negligence. I doubt that getting law involved in that case did any good or anything at all. Based on other poster's info, if one of these monkey's got caught with heroin, the law didn't correct his ways. There are ways to correct it but they are not legal.
Smell of unburnt marijuana cannot justify search of car - The Boston Globe
Shall not be infringed.*
Officer Jodoin arrested Nathan Smith of Cherry Valley, MA & he is Charged with:
-Possession large capacity
-Possession loaded firearm without LTC
-Possession ammo without LTC
-Illegal transport into commonwealth
-Possession of firearm while under influence of drugs
-Possession large capacity feeding device (x4 charges)
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And Thomas Gallagher of Worcester was also charged with:
-Carrying firearm under influence of class D
-Possession loaded firearm without LTC
-Possession large capacity firearm
-Possession ammo without LTC
-Possession large capacity
feeding device (x6 charges).
MGL said:Section 10H: Carrying loaded firearm while under influence of liquor,
marijuana, narcotic drugs, depressants or stimulant substances;
punishment
Section 10H. Whoever, having in effect a license to carry firearms
issued under section 131 or 131F of chapter 140, carries on his
person, or has under his control in a vehicle, a loaded firearm, as
defined in section 121 of said chapter 140, while under the influence
of intoxicating liquor or marijuana, narcotic drugs, depressants or
stimulant substances, all as defined in section 1 of chapter 94C, or
the vapors of glue shall be punished by a fine of not more than $5,000
or by imprisonment in the house of correction for not more than two
and one-half years, or by both such fine and imprisonment.
They were visibly impaired.....and firing guns......so YES.I think his point is that there is/was no victim.
Was there an allegation that they were being unsafe?
If you were at the range with your family and two guys obviously blazed up on weed were shooting next to you what would you personally do?Wow, NES has fallen in the 7 years I've been away in Montana.
Rather than admitting that there is no freedom left in Massachusetts let's victim blame and call them stupid...for the record I think weed is disgusting, but who did they harm?
The state.
I know one of the officers. He's a fair guy. They were at the club with their families. These guys were visibly impaired......smelling strongly of weed.....and shooting. That's why they made contact with them and called local police. Local po Po arrived and took over......investigation found they were not members of the club .....had no ltc.....and we're in possession of the post ban mags over 10Were they really stoned (Blood Level) or was it used as a fishing expedition with the standard size mags?
If they were stoned I have no sympathy, but too many times has a police officer told a story that just wasn't true.
Turns out Nate Smith has a prior for possession of heroin. I doubt the page you brought up is a "legit" business.
Man, if you were on private land and got boozed up or whatever with the vast likelihood that the only ones you could hurt were yourselves due to your choices... have at it Cheech. At a licensed range though? Public or private? They ran the risk and got the reward. “Could” there have been malfeasance, exaggeration or even fabrication? “Could” have been....anything is possible BUT it all appears to be self inflicted injury.
Mr. Smith was held overnight on $25,000 bail and in court on Monday he was held without bail until a dangerousness hearing Thursday. At that time a judge will determine whether any conditions can be set to ensure public safety if Mr. Smith is released.
Mr. Gallagher, who allegedly built the unregistered gun, is to be in court at a later date to face firearms charges. He was released Sunday night.
They were visibly impaired.....and firing guns......so YES.