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Sudden value increase!

Fleshwound said:
I've got to say; In all my years of being part of this group, I have never seen prices get so high for AR's and AK's, even SKS. Prices have literally doubled. I know they are tough to get, but the prices are so high they make buying a "PreBan" Glock 19 for $750.00 sound like a great deal! Some serious gouging going on. I get it, but it's a damn shame.
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The further you get out of New England the cheaper they get.

Bob
 
I have been wearing the same style New Balance sneakers for about 15 years. I usually buy two pair in one year. In the last 5 months or so the cost went up about $50. Not sure why really. Probably China or COVID.

They are supposedly made in the USA.... Or 70% of them are. Not cheap sneakers.... Now the are wicked expensive. I still bought them..... But my ass was real tight when I clicked the "buy" button.
 
Reptile said:
It's even worse in free states.

You can't even buy an AR because they are all sold out.
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I don't think you quite know what you're talking about. An NH resident can walk into like 3 different stores tomorrow and buy an AR... .and those are just the ones I know off the
top of my head, I'm sure there are more. Yes, certain desirable stuff goes faster, but there are basic, useable tier 2-3 rifles floating around all over the place. Admittedly, I don't know how
long that will last though. I suspect by the time we hit August things are going to get "REOL TOUGH" on that end.

Also most Tier 1 stuff is a pain in the ass to get even when the market was slow, apply a little pressure and it doesn't take much to go from "annoying" to "unicorn
tears" so not sure why you're shocked at that.

Actual gun shortages? Shotguns are hit the hardest- especially anything pump action, etc. Pain in the ass or overpriced.

A lot of this is because supposedly Remington is still shut down. So there goes 50% of your pump shotguns.

Dan Wesson and Krapber are also shut down. There goes those handguns (although DW is less likely to attract panic buyers, Krapber certainly would sell some guns to
them. )

Some Glocks? Yes, depending on model. 19s, 43X are hard to come by at times. I doubt that shortage will really last very long.

Sig is getting whacked pretty good, too. It's probably easier to find a retard-grade P365 w/safety lever, in mass than it is outside of MA, lol. One thing punishing SIG is their mags
are made in italy by MecGar more likely, and MecGar has probably been shut down for god knows how long. Not sure if they started up again, but even if they have they got a lot of
catching up to do. Sig likely has guns backed up that have no mags to go with them. They are shipping some guns with only one mag now.

Some accessories are hit hard, too. Anything Magpul makes is running out all over, outside of maybe pmags because of the volume they made the things
in. Some manufacturers (like CZ) have a shortage of mags for certain guns on the market, etc, too.


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Really? I was just browsing on here the other day (looking for a 10/22) and I was surprised by the number of reasonably priced AKs, especially a few higher-end Russian ones that are usually way overpriced.

Can't speak to AR pricing as I'm an AK guy [grin]
 
My metric for insanity is this. My primary distributor has just over 1000 9mm semi auto SKUs. Pre covid 600-700 would be in stock and 100 of those would have at least 50 in stock.

Covid hits and it starts going down. Bottoms out at just under 100 SKUs in stock and only 10 of them with 50+. Crazy but you could still buy stuff.

Then the rioting starts. Right now 8 in stock and 3 50+. That is not crazy but insane. 12 gauge pumps forget it.

As to “price gauging”. That is the call of the socialist. Capitalism. Supply and demand. Don’t like the price don’t buy it. Want the state to step in? Move to Cuba or Venezuela.
 
enbloc said:
I started buying multiples of semi-auto surplus and .mil style firearms back in the early 1980's. Garand/SKS/AK/AR primarily.
I don't need them all, but can't talk myself into selling off the extras. Same goes for shotguns/pistols/revolvers/knives/ammunition.

Can someone please tell me how a person is supposed to "sell off" family???
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Post it for whatever it is worth to you. Let it sit for as long as needed until someone wants to pay the price. It's not like you are in a hurry to sell.

Bonus; Enjoy everyone crying at how many views it has without a price change.
 
Some folks were just born into shitty times. I work with a bunch of kids who have never known anything but the current pricing situation that have been priced out of the experience so I can understand their frustrations when we talk about firearms regarding "entrance fees"in general. Unfortunately, most of them aren't that bright and this will probably be the best job they ever have(workplace is getting to look like Idiocracy more and more everyday) so their lack of disposable income will prevent them so long as prices remain retarded.

That said, shop gouging is absolutely a thing. Like the time I saw a LGS employee buying ammo at walmart and them reselling it at the LGS at a mark up during Obama's latter years. Or the last(and final) time I was at Outback, they were pulling inventory off the shelf and repricing it while the store was open(pro tip: do that shit while closed or at least offer a reach around). Magtech 9mm went off the shelf at $11.99 a box and came back at $15.99 a box about 8 minutes later.

Gun owners, particularly retired gun owners(LEOs who flip guns come in second) who have all the time in the world to travel and pick up cheap prebans out of state to resell at rape pricing, are the worst thing to happen to the gun community in Mass. Instead of "how can we grow the community" more often than not it's "how much can I profit from the community".

We deserve everything we get because even we treat each other like shit when it comes to profiteering. We laugh about the dems eating their own, the exact same thing happens right here in the classifieds. If it wasn't for @TPNES cutting the legs out from under the gougers we'd still be seeing ~$1000 entry level stripped lowers here(thanks for that BTW, it's nice to see not everyone wants to exploit the situation).


So flame on "free market"(something Ma. residents don't live in) bleaters, flame on.
Definition of free market

: an economy operating by free competition
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Something in which Ma. residents do live in.
Captive market – definition and meaning

A captive market is one where the potential buyers have very limited choice. In other words, unless they buy from just one or two suppliers their only other option is not to buy.
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Is this the part where I'm told unless I'm Green I should shut up?
 
I bought a new g19 gen4 from an FFL 5 or 6 weeks ago for under $650. It took more searching than usual and I had to contact several dealers, but I found one.
 
Regarding the title of the thread, this also applies to ammo as well. There’s some 9mm in the classifieds that’s apparently now worth .38/rd.
People thought TSUSA charging .36/.33(prime) for 9mm was “insane!” but, NES outdid them within a day.
 
TPNES said:
Consider they bought it at about 30 or so cents a round... to sell they would have to make a margin. Unfortunate trickle up effect but the time to buy ammo is when there isn’t pandemic riots and an election. Tough times for ammo.
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Considering the photo I’d say they bought it at about 16-18 cents a round, you know, where it was less than 6 months ago? I understand the economics of the situation,(though I’m not sure the typical NES’er moving a surplus of ammo is looking at the margins to be sure overhead is covered) I was merely stating that the thread title “sudden value increase” applied for not only firearms, but ammunition as well. That case you paid $180 for in January is now worth $320+
Crazy times all around.
 
Reptile said:
It's even worse in free states.

You can't even buy an AR because they are all sold out.

At least in Mass you can build one since lowers are still available.
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You mean you can build one using a $900 lower that you have for sale? Reptile you're King of the gougers!

www.northeastshooters.com

SOLD - SOLD - Pre Healey AR15 Lower Receiver - Brand New

Location : Hadley, MA Description : Remsport Lower from the Group Buy in 2009. Pre Healey. These were made in Massachusetts so they have been in state the whole time. Accessories : Bill of Sale. Selling Terms : Cash, No Returns. Social distancing. Price : SOLD for the stripped lower. All...
www.northeastshooters.com www.northeastshooters.com
 
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TPNES said:
Consider they bought it at about 30 or so cents a round... to sell they would have to make a margin. Unfortunate trickle up effect but the time to buy ammo is when there isn’t pandemic riots and an election. Tough times for ammo.
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I started shooting again in 2007. This is the third major disruption I've been through. First was after Obama was elected. Sandy Hook was #2. And here we are once again.

During Sandy Hook I remember seeing cases of good quality 5.56 selling for $750-$1000 on GunBroker.

There's a huge increase in demand from the many new shooters in the market. They have no ammo and are just getting started. Then there are gnarly old veterans of shortages and others who see it coming and add to their inventory. Dealers see this and also bulk up on inventory. That causes the pipeline to run dry. Maybe for several years.

Had a very nice young lady deliver an order to our home a month ago. She noticed an ammo can in the garage and asked if I was a gun guy. Yup. And she was a gun geek too.

She excitedly tells me that she recently bought a 9mm carbine but can't find any ammo. She's bummed she can't shoot her new toy. So I give her the best tip she's ever received. A couple boxes of 9mm. Damn she was happy. Oh, and for the record I did ask to see her license. Turns out she's also a probation officer but due to COVID couldn't do much at her job. Nice kid actually.

IMHO this won't end quickly...
 
Christian said:
Some folks were just born into shitty times. I work with a bunch of kids who have never known anything but the current pricing situation that have been priced out of the experience so I can understand their frustrations when we talk about firearms regarding "entrance fees"in general.

Is this the part where I'm told unless I'm Green I should shut up?
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Born into shitty times????? Less than a year ago, you could throw a basic AR together for less than $400, buy 1k of AK food for less than $200, buy a box of 9mm for $7.99, and a bunch of crybabies didn't bother. So, Yes, if you're 16 years old, the timing sucks, but if you're an adult, and didn't learn anything from the last panic...tough shit! Waaaa Waaaaa Waaaaa... and oh, Go green, when dues go to $22 I don't want to hear about "gouging". :p
 
drgrant said:
I don't think you quite know what you're talking about. An NH resident can walk into like 3 different stores tomorrow and buy an AR... .and those are just the ones I know off the
top of my head, I'm sure there are more. Yes, certain desirable stuff goes faster, but there are basic, useable tier 2-3 rifles floating around all over the place. Admittedly, I don't know how
long that will last though. I suspect by the time we hit August things are going to get "REOL TOUGH" on that end.

Also most Tier 1 stuff is a pain in the ass to get even when the market was slow, apply a little pressure and it doesn't take much to go from "annoying" to "unicorn
tears" so not sure why you're shocked at that.

Actual gun shortages? Shotguns are hit the hardest- especially anything pump action, etc. Pain in the ass or overpriced.

A lot of this is because supposedly Remington is still shut down. So there goes 50% of your pump shotguns.

Dan Wesson and Krapber are also shut down. There goes those handguns (although DW is less likely to attract panic buyers, Krapber certainly would sell some guns to
them. )

Some Glocks? Yes, depending on model. 19s, 43X are hard to come by at times. I doubt that shortage will really last very long.

Sig is getting whacked pretty good, too. It's probably easier to find a retard-grade P365 w/safety lever, in mass than it is outside of MA, lol. One thing punishing SIG is their mags
are made in italy by MecGar more likely, and MecGar has probably been shut down for god knows how long. Not sure if they started up again, but even if they have they got a lot of
catching up to do. Sig likely has guns backed up that have no mags to go with them. They are shipping some guns with only one mag now.

Some accessories are hit hard, too. Anything Magpul makes is running out all over, outside of maybe pmags because of the volume they made the things
in. Some manufacturers (like CZ) have a shortage of mags for certain guns on the market, etc, too.


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Makes me feel better knowing that there are a couple of us that an still get those unicorn tears. Been cramming LMT, Daniels, Geissele, Noveske, and more.
In regards to the Sig magazine, you are likely right. That being said they are still shipping guns with more than one magazine at the same time. They made separate #skus with the one magazine models and have been stocking both so the option is at least there if the regular models sell out.
I am curious if mecgar bring out of commission will make a few companies reevaluate their magazine production.
 
Bt74 said:
Born into shitty times????? Less than a year ago, you could throw a basic AR together for less than $400, buy 1k of AK food for less than $200, buy a box of 9mm for $7.99, and a bunch of crybabies didn't bother. So, Yes, if you're 16 years old, the timing sucks, but if you're an adult, and didn't learn anything from the last panic...tough shit! Waaaa Waaaaa Waaaaa... and oh, Go green, when dues go to $22 I don't want to hear about "gouging". :p
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Most of these kids are out of Fall River, New Bedford, Taunton, Brockton type areas whose parents wouldn't allow them to have rifles let alone their CoP(most likely). Now they're getting out on their own and are of age to get LTCs but everything is still shut down and they're watching prices on everything soar. Some are concerned about Trump losing this fall and never being able to get anything, others are saying f*** it and eluded to buying something off the street if that's what needs to be done.

I wouldn't be surprised a bit if a decent amount of folks I work with have off the book guns and no LTC/FID.
 
enbloc said:
Can someone please tell me how a person is supposed to "sell off" family???
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It's hard...One day during one of the various past panics I just decided what my favorite "children" were. Kept one Bulgarian 74 and one milled Arsenal 47. Sold 2 Poly's and 2 other milled Arsenals, 3 AR's and a metric shit ton of ammo and some pistols.

I have plenty of what I need and don't miss any of my adopted "children" a bit.

All these "panics" is also what kind of disgusted me about the whole gun culture and the herd mentality of it all. Sheep cause prices to go up and in turn make shooting a very expensive activity..What's a 30rd mag dump of 5.56 nowadays, $15.00 ? F that noise lol
 

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