Shooters Outpost in Hooksett NH Unwilling to Sell Muzzle Device to MA Resident

[pjw9658]

You guys are all jokers....first of all if you need something there is this thing called the internet.
If you were going there inperson from MA to buy somthing so insignificant you might want to google "the Internet"

As far as their store policy. Their house their rules.
I just have a feeling if i called or went in there things would have gone differently.
Saying something like MA compliant outside of the state of MA unless your being sarcastic borders on asking the guy if he wants a reacharound... not a very good ice breaker.

Shooter outpost is worth the 2 hour drive if you plan on buying something.Not dealing with them over a muzzle device or their policy regarding said muzzle device, is really only your loss.
Especially since it probibly the best gun store in new england, and it was just a misunderstanding.

I'm sure you would have had a great interaction with them. It sounds like sunshine and unicorns would be flying out of their asses if only you had used your magic incantations on them. I'm sure you see this a lot as an armchair QB in life.

To clarify, I didn't use the term "MA compliant" with them out of the gate. After some discussion, and hearing how busy it was at the counter, it seemed faster to put it into some very basic terms: a hybrid sold primarily has a muzzle brake (explaining to him that I was finishing an MA compliant upper, thinking I may not be the first person he encountered from MA shaping their purchase around this concept). This wasn't bc I haven't done my research and am inarticulate in conveying what I'd like. I was trying to help the guy at the counter. Shame on me.

There in no way this entirely benign conversion should have signaled "problem", much less resulted in "sorry, can't sell this you". If they choose not to understand the law, so be it. My question to the community was if my understanding of the law was incorrect (so that I might not incorrectly judge others), and if not, others may want to know of this experience. Yes, their house rules no matter how you slice it. If this doesn't bother you, good for you.

Yes, I'd normally order this from the INTERNET like a civilized troll such as yourself, but I was looking to take a drive today, buy something needed, and see if the store was any decent. Maybe that just can't compute for you.

So enjoy your shopping and your superiority; hope it all works out well for you and sorry for attempting to share.


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[drgrant]

they obviously don't like seeing mass plates in their parking lot, based on the many,many threads posted already. I will never set foot in that place. Drove right by 3 weeks ago, and I'm not in Hooksett often.

Yeah, the many threads, 95% of which whine about being carded for ammo... I do find it a little retarded that they won't even sell unregulated AR parts to MA residents, but no great loss there, go online, drive down the street, etc.

SO cockblocking on AR parts is NOT a new event, btw... they've been doing that stuff erratically since they
opened. They should just put up signs no AR parts to MA residents and get it over with, at least that way
people won't waste their time. Awhile ago I casually asked if they had a VFG in stock (I think I was looking for some magpul product) and before the clerk could finish the sentence there was some BS about MA in his
response. It's not enough to make me not go there but the people around here that have tucks medicated pads in their purse shouldn't even bother going through the door lest they get a flare up...

-Mike

 

[dhuze]

This is not new news with Shooters Outpost. If they prefer not to take money from any nearby state residents it's their loss.
It's not their job to decide what is legal in the state of the customer, it's the responsibility of the customer to know. If I owned a business like that I'd sell anything legal in that state to anybody eligible to buy it.
On a side note I drove by there twice on Friday and only stopped at Riley's.

Apparently Jim has become quite the pussy after his battle with that chief of police.

 

[MGnoob]

Dont you know not to feed the trolls?

Sorry to come down on you so hard.

I have a great interaction with them... i get a new machinegun everytime.

My magic incantation would have been to keep my mouth shut..... i know its hard to believe but i am capible of it.

 

[drgrant]

Dont you know not to feed the trolls?

Sorry to come down on you so hard.

I have a great interaction with them... i get a new machinegun everytime.

My magic incantation would have been to keep my mouth shut..... i know its hard to believe but i am capible of it.

Depending on who you talked to that may or may not have worked. I never "show my hand" but I have had clerks at SO shit test me for MA residency on items like that.

I had it done to me at Rileys along time ago by a surly clerk there and I was able to blow smoke up his ass and get what I wanted... "These aren't the droids you're looking for."

The way that you or I would respond to this problem would be different than the tucks medicated pad krew, though.

The only time I ever got really pissed at a vendor for not selling me something was I ordered a boatload of 8 round 1911 mags from some online vendor, and they processed the order but cockbocked the sale... even after I read their policy didn't say anything about low cap mags in MA. It was a pain in the ass because there was a long delay between the order and the cockblocking action, and that was 3 days wasted I could have used to get them somewhere else. I ended up calling an FFL buddy of mine instead paid a little more and got the same product, no BS.

-Mike

 

[MGnoob]

And just to throw it out there, especially with this Healey thing.. regardless of how the muzzle device is marketed/advertised. If it can be demonstrated that there is a measurable difference in flash over no muzzle device it in theory could be illegal if attached to you already illegal post 1994 ar...
So i guess it would be double illegal if the muzzle device police show up.(sarcasm)
But even then the muzzle device itself wouldnt be illegal. It could go on a pre 1994, or an m16 legally in the state..
So. If you ran into a problem of them not selling it to you , you woud tell the compliance guy your putting it on either of the two listed above he'd sell it to you...and words like MA complaint upper would never be brought up... im not encouraging you to lie just pointing out that SO is wrong on the law behind it.


But after all that said......the Internet

 

[MGnoob]

Depending on who you talked to that may or may not have worked. I never "show my hand" but I have had clerks at SO shit test me for MA residency on items like that.

I had it done to me at Rileys along time ago by a surly clerk there and I was able to blow smoke up his ass and get what I wanted... "These aren't the droids you're looking for."

The way that you or I would respond to this problem would be different than the tucks medicated pad krew, though.

The only time I ever got really pissed at a vendor for not selling me something was I ordered a boatload of 8 round 1911 mags from some online vendor, and they processed the order but cockbocked the sale... even after I read their policy didn't say anything about low cap mags in MA. It was a pain in the ass because there was a long delay between the order and the cockblocking action, and that was 3 days wasted I could have used to get them somewhere else. I ended up calling an FFL buddy of mine instead paid a little more and got the same product, no BS.

-Mike

Its not so much a jedi mind trick, as i have two modes.

1. Apply 3 coats of lipstick and proceed to tell someone how great they are, and get what I want
2. Someone screws up and i publicly embarrass them infront of there employees and customers.. and by the time im done everyone is embarrassed, except me because i have no shame.

 

[CMEBoston]

WTF is going on up there? A few weeks ago, after the ban, They were openly advertising they would sell any legal item to MA residents.

Yeah but everything is illegal in Massachusetts

 

[mac1911]

WTF is going on up there? A few weeks ago, after the ban, They were openly advertising they would sell any legal item to MA residents.

They probably go by the everything is illegal in MA policy.

 

[ChevyGuy91]

1. its your own fault for proudly declaring your MA residence to an out of state gun shop

This. If you walked in and didn't look like a teenager trying to steel a porno mag from 7-11, no one would have given a shit where you were from. I personally don't care too much for the place, but sometimes I end up there because they will likely have what I need. There is usually some MA residents loudly talking about "I wish I could have this..." or "Will you sell me that...". It's kind of embarrassing.

 

[Keeper]

buy one off amazon, that's where I got mine

Amazon stopped selling them.

 

[bandaid bandit]

This. If you walked in and didn't look like a teenager trying to steel a porno mag from 7-11, no one would have given a shit where you were from. I personally don't care too much for the place, but sometimes I end up there because they will likely have what I need. There is usually some MA residents loudly talking about "I wish I could have this..." or "Will you sell me that...". It's kind of embarrassing.

^^^QFT^^^ I've bought bulk ammo at SO(and Riley's too for that matter) a dozen or so times, never been carded. Just walk in, grab what you want, hand over cash, leave. Not sure if the OC'd Glock had anything to do with it.

 

[tk421991]

Lol, "A-Ah depaahhtmint."

If I ran a gun store, I wouldn't sell anything to people from Mass. Mass has sent revenue department agents over the border into NH. Why wouldn't they send off-duty or plainclothes agents into NH to buy guns and ammo or any weapons?

Within 24 hours, ARs and AKs and the like went from perfectly legal to "we'll prosecute your asses when we're damn good and ready!" View this from a business owners' point of view - they don't want to be investigated, sued, in the newspaper or in any sort of unprofitable trouble.

Besides, Shooter's Outpost isn't that good.

 

[slap shot]

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[slap shot]

Amazon stopped selling them.

https://www.amazon.com/Ultimate-Arm...8&qid=1477256215&sr=8-3&keywords=muzzle+brake
https://www.amazon.com/Ultimate-Arm...1477256346&sr=8-23&keywords=ar15+muzzle+brake

 

[SHOCKNAWE]

I haven't been in there since they refused to sell me a Mass Compliant Saiga AK because it came with a 30 round mag, the idiots there couldn't wrap their head around that they could just keep the mag or throw it away or whatever, after a long song and dance they left $1600+ Sale on the table ( my buddy was going to buy one too ) because they wanted to be ridiculous. Fast forward and I'm now a NH resident and have give Rileys thousands of dollars worth of business as well as my buddy. In short we drive right past Shooters to go to Rileys to spend our money. I know some SO apoligists here will chime in with the typical NES BS of their business their rules but being stupid AND ignorant is not necessary.

 

[rocket500]

OP- I've got a BCM muzzle brake sitting here doing nothing. You can have it if you need one.

 

[headednorth]

Never been carded in there either.

 

[frenchman]

Tell you a secret... We actually don't like people from MA in general (except for my bros). Them not coming to NH, to buy shit free of a tax that they voted to keep, is actually the best case scenario. Most of them have an attitude, which isn't really appreciated down here. Don't like how vendors run their business in NH? Easy fix: buy your shit in MA.

 

[mikem317]

Never had a problem there. But then again...

 

[Len-2A Training]

Give a call to First Defense Firearms in Uxbridge. Dennis is top-notch and has AR parts in stock. See if he has what you need.

 

[Rob Boudrie]

Would you sign an indemnification contract agreeing to pay the store's legal fees if the MA AG decides to go after them for selling you the product?'

If not, you are not only asking to buy a product, but also asking the vendor to underwrite the risk of AG insurgency.

 

[greencobra]

yawn....you're just finding this out now? this place is the worst.

 

[jpm]

Tell you a secret... We actually don't like people from MA in general (except for my bros). Them not coming to NH, to buy shit free of a tax that they voted to keep, is actually the best case scenario. Most of them have an attitude, which isn't really appreciated down here. Don't like how vendors run their business in NH? Easy fix: buy your shit in MA.

ok we'll stop coming to NH to buy stuff when you NH residents stop coming here for your jobs. Deal?

 

[mikelawtown]

Tell you a secret... We actually don't like people from MA in general (except for my bros). Them not coming to NH, to buy shit free of a tax that they voted to keep, is actually the best case scenario. Most of them have an attitude, which isn't really appreciated down here. Don't like how vendors run their business in NH? Easy fix: buy your shit in MA.

If you're in NH it's UP HERE..LOL Just saying
I get it but you are the type of People that ....we'll just plain separate and will get along with "your Kind only I guess". Enjoy that

 

[mclina]

I've been driving past SO for a couple of years now. Too much BS at that place.

 

[spt_1955]

Not an uncommon occurrence in that shop. Stop giving them your business.

P.S. If they are saying that they check the license of everybody who buys something in their shop even when it is not a firearm or ammunition they are lying.

 

[jron]

They suck.

I was there an liked an AK a while back, all it needed was a welded brake.
So i ask, "you guys have a gun smith in store right?"
clerk replies "yes we do"
Me; "so they could weld on that brake and I can buy that gun"
clerk: "no we cant do that"
Me: "why not, its simple"
Clerk: "Well it would be illegal"
Me: "how would it be illegal? its perfectly legal"
clerk: "well how do we know you wont just cut the brake off in the future?"
Me: puzzled and confused "because that would be illegal, why would I do that"
Clerk: "We don't know what you could do with it"
Me: "you dont know what anyone does with any gun that leaves the store regardless where they live"

He then finally says "well we wont modify guns to sell them, they are sold as they come from the manufacture"
I gave up. I wish I could make up a story like that.

Thats just one of many. My money goes to Riley's out of the two.

 

[bostonasphalt2]

Would you sign an indemnification contract agreeing to pay the store's legal fees if the MA AG decides to go after them for selling you the product?'

If not, you are not only asking to buy a product, but also asking the vendor to underwrite the risk of AG insurgency.

yyeeahhhh, thats just a little past the scope of selling a completely unregulated part....

 

[SHOCKNAWE]

Tell you a secret... We actually don't like people from MA in general (except for my bros). Them not coming to NH, to buy shit free of a tax that they voted to keep, is actually the best case scenario. Most of them have an attitude, which isn't really appreciated down here. Don't like how vendors run their business in NH? Easy fix: buy your shit in MA.

Not that anyone gives a shit what you think but the fact that your spouting off like you speak for the state of NH is grossly hilarious and stupid, when I was a MA resident most NH gun stores save Shooters Outpost welcomed us in their stores and Generally felt bad that they couldn't sell us the stuff we wanted to buy.