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YepI think no matter how much you practice with it it's fundamentally a bad design that under stress can cause you to shoot yourself.
BINGO!!!!!I know all the bad press about the Serpa. However I bought a Serpa 1911 before all the nay-sayers had their say.
So I have tried it with a blue gun and at no time did my finger slip into the trigger guard. I think it is mostly a lack of training issue and lack of discipline in keeping trigger finger extended along a slide that causes the problem. I will agree that it is a problem with some gun owners and perhaps other models make it a more realistic issue.
In any case I ccw IWB with a high-end holster that most people won't spend the money to buy, so it's a non-issue to me and the Serpa is just one more in a box of holsters.
So I have tried it with a blue gun and at no time did my finger slip into the trigger guard. I think it is mostly a lack of training issue and lack of discipline in keeping trigger finger extended along a slide that causes the problem. I will agree that it is a problem with some gun owners and perhaps other models make it a more realistic issue.
Yes, a highly trained, master level shooter.......Well, there you go — a product endorsement from a “professional”.
I've carried the Sherpa for over a decade (forget when I went to it, but it's been a while). I draw and fire in under .8 sec from a random tone. I've never had an issue with it. FLETC banned it, that's a primary training center, so new gun handlers are the standard, so I can see where they are coming from. The 'indexing' the trigger finger is a non issue for me because you index your trigger finger in the exact same place no matter the holster. The 'squeezing' the trigger finger onto the trigger will happen no matter the holster if you are inclined to do so under stress.
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You have been doing .8 draws for a while. If you try for .6s, you never feel you finger brush the trigger?
My finger indexes a lot higher on non-sepra holsters.
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To me, saying the holster is inherently dangerous is the same as saying a gun without a safety is inherently dangerous. If you don't practice safe procedures, you won't be safe. Don't draw faster than you can safely do it. Start slow and slowly work on speed. I don't blame equipment, especially in the LEO field where most people simply don't practice anything, much less drawing at speed. The 'fun' part is shooting, you can get guys to do that if you are lucky. Drawing the weapon is relegated to the 'do we have to' folder.
I rarely have such a strong opinion on anything but since you asked...they are unsafe and should never be used, under any circumstances. I think no matter how much you practice with it it's fundamentally a bad design that under stress can cause you to shoot yourself.
To me, saying the holster is inherently dangerous is the same as saying a gun without a safety is inherently dangerous. If you don't practice safe procedures, you won't be safe. Don't draw faster than you can safely do it. Start slow and slowly work on speed. I don't blame equipment, especially in the LEO field where most people simply don't practice anything, much less drawing at speed. The 'fun' part is shooting, you can get guys to do that if you are lucky. Drawing the weapon is relegated to the 'do we have to' folder.
I know all the bad press about the Serpa. However I bought a Serpa 1911 before all the nay-sayers had their say.
So I have tried it with a blue gun and at no time did my finger slip into the trigger guard. I think it is mostly a lack of training issue and lack of discipline in keeping trigger finger extended along a slide that causes the problem. I will agree that it is a problem with some gun owners and perhaps other models make it a more realistic issue.
In any case I ccw IWB with a high-end holster that most people won't spend the money to buy, so it's a non-issue to me and the Serpa is just one more in a box of holsters.