They are pretty good for what they are. I have one in black with the claw for a P365 cross draw appendix carry. Good retention, fits good on a 1.5" belt for a draw, encloses the trigger guard completely but lets you get a full grip. As for something larger, I don't know as I've only got the one for the SIG. One thing, you will have a wait on it without notifications for a short while until it's ready to ship. Depending on how and/or what you're carrying there's some others to look at. If it's tiny and you want to pocket, check out Vedders (with curve and thumb tab options). For OWB and a bit larger, there's Urban Carries lock leather hybrid. Crossbreed makes a nice IWB for 7:00 o'clock (left handed) to small of back in their mini-tuck. Mine is the horse hide version.