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No, I don't.You need to supply a SS# in order to RENEW a drivers license. Give the SS# to them and they have all your data ant the end of a return key.
Yup, and they converted everyone's assigned DL number in MA to SSNs without even asking us for them. A senior attorney in US HHS (I think it was called that back in the mid-1970s) told me that MA DOR gave MA RMV all the SSNs. So much for confidentiality of our tax return info!Was not that long ago in MA your license number was your SSN.
Was not that long ago in MA your license number was your SSN.
told me that MA DOR gave MA RMV all the SSNs.
You must have spoken to the same RMV lawyer that I did back in 1992. I lost that battle because I was told exactly that.The State Police and most likely all local computer terminal connected cruisers are linked to the DMV system where your social shows up when they run a check on you. You are required to list your social # periodically when renewing your license. I went round and round with the DMV a few years back and after speaking with a high level DMV person in Boston, was told, "You don't have to submit your SS# to us but then we do not have to issue you a license." It is required on renewals but not for the first license.
I'm waiting till they require a DNA sample for your Real ID...
We will count to 10, then shout "ready or not, here we come!"I have things to hide...
Meh, who cares.
You must have spoken to the same RMV lawyer that I did back in 1992.
Can someone be prosecuted for failure to show up for federal jury duty if they refuse to get their papers?
Everyone practice the line "I trust you'll find my papers to be in order".
From a practical POV it seems if you do not have the gold star on your DL, it opens the door for a police officer to ask you if you are here in US legally
I got my real ID when I saw a couple of clowns from Beacon Hill on the TV recommending you don't because RealID will open up discrimination against your undocumented neighbors.
Sort of a "oh, they say the boogie man bad? Sign me up!" moment.
"You will."
"prevent voter fraud" ... let me know when is the last time anyone asked for ID.
I always point at my name on a book. They dont even know I'm that person. I could easily vote, then come back later when there is another person and point at my name.
ID for voting? What is that?
HOGAN !!
When they stopped that, I was offered to create my own license number.Was not that long ago in MA your license number was your SSN.
I refused to let my alma mater use mine as my student ID number, and bitched and moaned enough they made one up to placate me: 900-00-0100When they stopped that, I was offered to create my own license number.
The coolest numbers were taken.
If I had more time I could have chosen one.
At the time I just asked for a random number.
I wish I could have created my own number in hindsight.
Then, a couple years later, I was doing grad work at Penn State. It took more bitching and moaning - an argument lasting all day, in fact, such that when they finally relented and took my ID photo, I looked like:
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I refused to let my alma mater use mine as my student ID number, and bitched and moaned enough they made one up to placate me: 900-00-0100
Then, a couple years later, I was doing grad work at Penn State. It took more bitching and moaning - an argument lasting all day, in fact, such that when they finally relented and took my ID photo, I looked like:
They gave me an eight-oh-one number. Turns out, that's what they do for international students (who wouldn't have a SSN). More than once, at the library, say, I'd show my ID and be asked, "What country are you from?"
"Connecticut," I'd answer.
"way back when" (1980) it was possible to get a non-SS MA DL# just by asking for it. When I came back to the DPRM in 87 after a 4 year absence and not having a MA DL during that time, they used the same number.