I don't care what you agree with. Maybe you should mind your own business and let me worry how I want to carry. I hear Marcia is hiring, you might be able to get a job setting up carry guidelines for us!
"all you gunfighters" STUPID..
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I don't care what you agree with. Maybe you should mind your own business and let me worry how I want to carry. I hear Marcia is hiring, you might be able to get a job setting up carry guidelines for us!
"all you gunfighters" STUPID..
falcon123
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mibro
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Or you might do that yourself. It happens all the time.
OK, so you'd never do that. But other people do.
In all seriousness, I disagree with your risk assessment if you're carrying in Condition 1 or 2 while driving around a car full of children.
Thread drift I guess. My apologies.
dcmdon
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I think the OP handled the situation perfectly.
One thing. I had an encounter about 8 years ago where I was asked and answered re carrying. The officer was young, nervous, and very courteous. I complied with all of his requests because the guy was a mess.
I asked an old family friend who is a veteran state trooper how he would handle it.
He said he would ask me to remain in the car.
Not ask me for the firearm
Return to his cruiser and wait outside of it until a backup unit arrived.
Once the unit arrived, he would go heads down and begin writing the ticket.
His thought was that it might delay things by 5 minutes, but had the benefit of
1) allowing me to remain in the vehicle.
2) not requiring me to handle the firearm
3) not requiring the officer to handle the firearm
4) provide for a scenario that was safer and more convenient for both the officer and me.
I think his response is just about perfect, short of not doing anything different.
One thing. I had an encounter about 8 years ago where I was asked and answered re carrying. The officer was young, nervous, and very courteous. I complied with all of his requests because the guy was a mess.
I asked an old family friend who is a veteran state trooper how he would handle it.
He said he would ask me to remain in the car.
Not ask me for the firearm
Return to his cruiser and wait outside of it until a backup unit arrived.
Once the unit arrived, he would go heads down and begin writing the ticket.
His thought was that it might delay things by 5 minutes, but had the benefit of
1) allowing me to remain in the vehicle.
2) not requiring me to handle the firearm
3) not requiring the officer to handle the firearm
4) provide for a scenario that was safer and more convenient for both the officer and me.
I think his response is just about perfect, short of not doing anything different.
warwickben
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Lol love you al. I'm really not worried about that in my town . Yours I would
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Jason Flare
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I'm imagining myself holding ben up late at night while he buys a milkshake.
And taking his milkshake.
And taking his milkshake.
Well said. In fact, it cannot get any more succinct than this.
It reminds me of one of those bad wild west or cop movies, where the cop hands the guy a gun and says "Go ahead, shoot me.", and they proceed to have a gunfight.
GlockJock
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Ben, seriously?
Did you seriously just post this? In a forum with fellow gun owners/carriers??
I carry everywhere, every time. Never ever ever leave my home without my weapon.
ANY scenario can happen at ANY time. THIS IS WHY WE CARRY GUNS.
You think there's never been an incident where a driver at a drive through was set upon by gun wielding thugs and, at gunpoint, forced to hand over the cash, the car, the car with the kids, the wife, etc.
Almost always my G26 on me, but, if "just around the corner for the paper" or down the street for at 1am milkshake, at minimum - MINIMUM - wherever I go, my SW 442 in my pocket. I carry the damn thing to the dumpster at the end of the condo complex where I live. I carry it in my sweatpants for morning walk/jog. I carry carry CARRY literally always, EVERYWHERE.
Why? Paranoid? Nope.
But I think I've heard once or twice that it's better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it.
You're in Tewksbury, Ben. I was in nearby Dracut several years. Dracut is a very quiet town, even more so than Tewksbury!. And not once, in all the time I lived there, nor at anytime since I first received my LTC many years ago, was I ever unarmed. 1am, 1pm, milkshake or milk duds. Never.
I carry, because I am a gun owner. Why own a gun if you don't always carry it?
You go to Dairy Queen unarmed if you want.
I'm SW442, +p hollow points. And I'm guessing a larger percentage of gun owners feel the way I do. Amy Lord walked to the gym at 6am on a beautiful day in South Boston. Cuz she probably thought "nobody is gonna bother me". Also, suppose, on your way home, you get broadsided by a sh*tbox car with two deranged, meth-infused junkies looking to score another rock. They're FURIOUS that you had the audacity to be sitting at that stop sign or red light... they jump out and, in their drugged-out haze/rage,simply begin attacking you.
Just because.
And for no other good reason than just because.
I promise you, "Stab the muthaf*cka" will never be the last thing I will hear prior to leaving this earth.
But the last thing Meth-Head #1 or #2 will hear prior to attempting to plunge the knife into me will be...."BANG".
By the way, how's that milkshake taste?
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I don't carry in the shower. Flame on GlockJock.
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Now I carry in the shower. Thanks. +p cocked and locked. I hope I get jumped in there, because I'll already have the shower curtain to wrap the body in while I scan for additional meth threats.
mibro
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Alright, to the person who left me negative reputation with this comment: "I cant tell if you are serious, you would actually let a cop disarm you?"
As I understand it, whether you get disarmed or not is entirely up to the cop. You really have no say in the matter. If the cop wants to disarm you, he will.
As I understand it, whether you get disarmed or not is entirely up to the cop. You really have no say in the matter. If the cop wants to disarm you, he will.
falcon123
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I do. Easy way to clean a gun.
GlockJock
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LOL! Nice one!
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Dude your crazy. What if you NR the slide? Condition 4 the way to go. Safe as shit
GlockJock
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But not legally.
"What have I done that has raised your suspicion sir?"
"Am I suspected of being a felon?"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfdEbe7e9GE
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OfficerObie59
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There is some irony that he only asks if he sees the LTC. Never say never, but people who are actually licensed are generally not the ones I'm worried about.
i had a radar detector from when the first models came out in the 70's until about 1990. I stopped using them because instant-on made them less useful, and you were pretty much guaranteed to get a ticket if stopped.
There are some stealth installs that are pretty good but between getting ripped off and LEO attention, Waze works better for me....
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I would have demanded him to hand over his as I'm handing over mine, I don't trust him at all either.
dcmdon
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Thats exactly what the licensing officer in CT said to me as he handed me my pistol permit, even though the FBI check had not yet come back. This is something that still goes on in some towns in CT. Obviously, the good ones.
dcmdon
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The instant on fad is done. Most cops just sit with it on. Radar detectors work great again. Also, GPS based units like the Escort 9500 allow you to mark locations with door openers so that you can eliminate most false alarms on any route you drive regularly. It won't block out a real radar because it counts the number of signals, and any additional will trigger an alert.
They do not however work on the interstates in CT. There the cops use laser almost exclusively. With laser, all the detector does is tell you in advance that you are going to get pulled over.
mibro
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Funny, this thread has brought out my inner authoritarian.
At the roadside the police officer is in charge, like it or not, right or wrong. The legal hair-splitting comes later.
Anyway, when this happens to you and the police officer says "I am taking your weapon for your safety and mine," please respond "no, you're not" and then report back to us.
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