This could be a good time for the TSA to expand and justify arming themselves by going into the schools. The police chiefs will not have to worry about man power and the fed gov. can take a little bit more control! The sheep will feel secure again and everything will be good. Until the next insane murderer comes forward!
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best one i've heard yet:
edit:. oh, this too:
Ahhh...Philosoraptor...is there nothing he doesn't know?
Seriously, the game is not the problem. I have an 8 year old girl who loves Battlefield 2142. She talks about her score and how many kills she got in a round. I ask her, did you kill anyone for real? She looks at me with that 8 year old girl look (you know the one...'are you stupid"?)
It's up to the parents to teach their kids right and wrong, fact from fiction and fantasy from reality.
ROTFLMAO!! The funny one would be Wayne. Lordy, what world do you live in? (That's a rhetorical question)
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Pipe down, then.Dummies...been better off saying nothing.![[popcorn]](/xen/styles/default/xenforo/smilies.vb/043.gif "Popcorn [popcorn]")
ROTFLMAO!!! The standard go to, stupid retort when ya have no reasoned answer, not even to one of your own who says the NRA plan is garbage. No, I'm not a troll, but you clearly have the IQ of one.
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+1. I keep seeing bullshit rhetorical taunts and namecalling by Signation, but nothing of substance. Come on Sig, since you seem to have this all figured out, and we're all so f'ing stupid, why don't you share your vast insight and enlighten us?
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This may be a stupid question, but I don't recall how, when, or even why gun free zones were enacted into law. Can someone explain that? Was there an incident that spawned the GFZs?
Stop feeding the troll man! There will always be people like signation on forums claiming shit and not having the substance to back it up. But he just failed at even a troll level so I seriously doubt that he knows anything about current events. Happy Friday night everyone.
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I think the government would love to do that. In fact they would love to have there own agency for public school protection. I think if the NRA gets in first it will be better for all of us. Then eddie eagle for elementary, NRA home firearm safety for middle or high school.
I'm glad to see the NES denizens are still living in their shrinking world of irrelevant gibberish. Please, please, please, don't change until after November, 2016. Good night and good luck.![[wink]](/xen/styles/default/xenforo/smilies.vb/002.gif "Wink [wink]")
What happens in November 2016?
He finally set a date to come out to his parents.
Where the hell is Jose? Locked in a basement somewhere loading since last Friday?
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Technically that would be January 2014.
Don't worry. Chris Christie will save us. I think.
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This.. Insults do not help anyone and will not convince anyone to see your point of view...
Neg rep inbound.... SigNation..
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Technically that would be January 2014.
Don't worry. Chris Christie will save us. I think.
I'm gonna start trying to draft Penn Jillette
My letter to the NRA:
Greetings,
This is my first ever email to the NRA. I am a life member (*******44).
I write as I appreciate the content of the speeches made today that I was able to view when they occurred. I was impressed at to the professionalism that was shown even as ignorant protestors tried to distract form the meaningful words of Wayne.
I am however concerned that the concept of blaming video games and movies was ever presented. This argument is as much of a logical fallacy as blaming murder on a tool that looks “scary.”
I was also disappointed that the fact of up to 2.5 Million violent crimes being thwarted by the armed citizen was not a key component of this speech. Every day the first responder is the average citizen. When that average citizen is a lawful gun owner, the incident of violent crime is demonstrably lower than otherwise.
We need to overcome the indoctrination that guns are bad, and help everyone remember that a defenseless populate is the fertile ground of tyranny and crime. The unalienable right, as guaranteed by the second amend of the Constitution of these United States has nothing to do with hunting, or sporting , but everything to do with protecting the individual and thereby society against crime and tyranny.
Please don’t let this message become lost.
In liberty.
Greetings,
This is my first ever email to the NRA. I am a life member (*******44).
I write as I appreciate the content of the speeches made today that I was able to view when they occurred. I was impressed at to the professionalism that was shown even as ignorant protestors tried to distract form the meaningful words of Wayne.
I am however concerned that the concept of blaming video games and movies was ever presented. This argument is as much of a logical fallacy as blaming murder on a tool that looks “scary.”
I was also disappointed that the fact of up to 2.5 Million violent crimes being thwarted by the armed citizen was not a key component of this speech. Every day the first responder is the average citizen. When that average citizen is a lawful gun owner, the incident of violent crime is demonstrably lower than otherwise.
We need to overcome the indoctrination that guns are bad, and help everyone remember that a defenseless populate is the fertile ground of tyranny and crime. The unalienable right, as guaranteed by the second amend of the Constitution of these United States has nothing to do with hunting, or sporting , but everything to do with protecting the individual and thereby society against crime and tyranny.
Please don’t let this message become lost.
In liberty.
T
Tdsjfb
I picked up that the expense associated with arming our schools will cost in the neighborhood of 4 Billion. That's a freaking rounding error for our fools in government.
Where is Jose? Change usernames?
We need some of this in Massachusetts!
He also mentioned "qualified citizens", or something like that; plus training to bring people up to speed (think residents, teachers, custodians, principals...)
Some of the reaction:
Baltimore priest organizes vigil for gun victims, new laws "New Year, New Gun Laws" theme of event on National Mall
The National Rifle Association's response to the tragedy at Sandy Hook Elementary School — that is, placing blame for it on everyone and everything except the NRA and its all-guns-all-the-time credo — was utterly predictable. But this time it won't matter.
N.J. not so keen on NRA's plan for armed guards in schools
Democrats Slam NRA's Response To School Shooting
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So, who does the NRA represent? You the gun owner? Maybe indirectly. In light of the article quoted in part below, what will happen to the NRA if the gun manufacturers are successfully pressured to abandon the NRA. Discuss rationally, if you can.
.......Granted, if you believe that what LaPierre was trying to do today was to sincerely join in a national conversation over school shootings, or offer a coherent set of preventative policy options, or even just demonstrate some baseline sensitivity for the lives that were lost, it is easy to see why you'd deem LaPierre's press conference to be an ineffective, tone-deaf failure. But what you should remember that the National Rifle Association does not exist to offer sensible public policy or participate in conversations or pretend to be sensitive about tragedies. The National Rifle Association exists to assist the manufacturers of guns and gun-related accoutrements in selling guns and gun-related accoutrements to people. That is their job, summed up, in its entirety.The NRA are lobbyists who represent a bunch of gun retailers, and this is what lobbyists do -- they help their clients sell their products. And every action that LaPierre took today can and should be viewed through that prism.......
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/21/nra-wayne-lapierre_n_2348277.html?utm_hp_ref=politics
.......Granted, if you believe that what LaPierre was trying to do today was to sincerely join in a national conversation over school shootings, or offer a coherent set of preventative policy options, or even just demonstrate some baseline sensitivity for the lives that were lost, it is easy to see why you'd deem LaPierre's press conference to be an ineffective, tone-deaf failure. But what you should remember that the National Rifle Association does not exist to offer sensible public policy or participate in conversations or pretend to be sensitive about tragedies. The National Rifle Association exists to assist the manufacturers of guns and gun-related accoutrements in selling guns and gun-related accoutrements to people. That is their job, summed up, in its entirety.The NRA are lobbyists who represent a bunch of gun retailers, and this is what lobbyists do -- they help their clients sell their products. And every action that LaPierre took today can and should be viewed through that prism.......
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/21/nra-wayne-lapierre_n_2348277.html?utm_hp_ref=politics
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The NRA is not going to "get into" our liberal school systems. More likely, the white house would look at this as an opportunity, offered up by the NRA itself. We would have expanded government authority with the "backing of gun owners nationwide".
"Great idea NRA, we'll assign the TSA to every school ASAP, thanks for the idea!"
According to the Huffington Post article, the assigned guard at Columbine was outside the school and the other "guard" was a nearby motorcycle officer. Both shot at Harris from a distance then, when Harris went back inside, they stayed outside, waiting for backup, a policy which is changing.
Lott's comment was that a recognizable (uniformed) officer would be an immediate target. This is true. A uniformed police presence would also require choke points, metal detectors, etc, all aimed at creating an "impermeable" perimeter. (which of course wouldn't be impermeable at all)
The costs would be high, in many cases requiring modifications to the school itself.
There are about 100,000 public schools in the US with a small number of shooting incidents a year. Any locally-funded solution of this sort will quickly be dropped as soon as the cost is balanced against the likelihood of an incident in the first place.
Wayne's most important message has been lost in the outrage over the video game accusation and the armed guard suggestion.
That message was that gun-free zones are a really bad idea and in fact increase the danger.
Lott's comment was that a recognizable (uniformed) officer would be an immediate target. This is true. A uniformed police presence would also require choke points, metal detectors, etc, all aimed at creating an "impermeable" perimeter. (which of course wouldn't be impermeable at all)
The costs would be high, in many cases requiring modifications to the school itself.
There are about 100,000 public schools in the US with a small number of shooting incidents a year. Any locally-funded solution of this sort will quickly be dropped as soon as the cost is balanced against the likelihood of an incident in the first place.
Wayne's most important message has been lost in the outrage over the video game accusation and the armed guard suggestion.
That message was that gun-free zones are a really bad idea and in fact increase the danger.
