New Keltec KSG 12 Gauge bullpup pump gun (14+1)

[Uncle Fester]

It looks like the RFB a bit. I've checked it a couple of RFB's and theyare a cut or two above the other keltec stuff I've seen.

The RFB also costs 10X what everything else Kel-Tec sells.

 

[Broc]

This is off of the Foxborough PD's website in the FAQ section:

Effective October 21,1998, the law establishes a new category of large capacity weapons and feeding devices. A weapon is large capacity if it is a semiautomatic handgun or rifle that is capable of accepting a feeding device that holds more than 10 rounds, or more than 5 shotgun shells (in the case of a shotgun).

so that means that this would be considered a non-large capacity gun?


edit: i wonder if this gun will be on the next call of duty? lol

 

[ChargingCharlie]

so that means that this would be considered a non-large capacity gun?


edit: i wonder if this gun will be on the next call of duty? lol

Yes, based on my zero years of law school and inability to translate legal mumbo-jumbo, that is EXACTLY what it means.

 

[drgrant]

Everyone says that but I can't justify it based on the law. Pump shotguns are prevented from being 'large capacity weapons' and 'assault weapons', but I can't find anything that exempts a magazine over 5 rounds from being a 'large capacity ammunition feeding device' because it's attached to a pump gun.

If you go digging deep enough on NES I'd wager a bet that Scriv covered this issue in great detail in a previous life, so to speak.

-Mike

 

[jar]

If you go digging deep enough on NES I'd wager a bet that Scriv covered this issue in great detail in a previous life, so to speak.

-Mike

IIRC, I asked him directly and he ignored it or gave a non-committal answer.

 

[CJKarl]

...and it's not a bullpup. It's just a very short barreled shotgun with a unique mag system.

 

[TheRoland]

...and it's not a bullpup. It's just a very short barreled shotgun with a unique mag system.

I think the chamber is significantly behind the trigger, no?

 

[ChevyGuy91]

...and it's not a bullpup. It's just a very short barreled shotgun with a unique mag system.

It sure looks like a bull pup to me, with a not so short 18" barrel.

 

[Kevlar]

From The Kel-Tec Website...

Posted today...

PREVIEW: Kel-Tec Shotgun (KSG)
01-04-2011

The time for secrecy is nearing its end. This SHOT Show, Kel-Tec will be revealing its next ground-breaking product: the KSG (Kel-Tec Shotgun).

The KSG is our first entry into the shotgun market. The size, shape and design are similar to the currently available Kel-Tec RFB rifle, but the KSG ejects downward, instead of forward. The KSG weighs 6.9lbs and is as compact as legally possible with a 26.1" overall length and an 18.5" cylinder bore barrel. Even with this compact size, the internal dual tube magazines hold an impressive 14 rounds of 12 gage 2-3/4" rounds (7 per tube). The simple and reliable pump action feeds from either the left or right tube. The feed side is manually selected by a lever located behind the trigger guard. The lever can be positioned in the center detent in order to easily clear the chamber without feeding another round from either magazine. A cross bolt style safety blocks the sear, and the pump release lever is located in front of the trigger guard.

The pump includes an under Picatinny rail for the mounting of a forward grip, or a light or laser. The included top Picatinny sight rail will accept many types of optics or iron sights. Forward and rear sling loops are built in, and a basic sling is included. The soft rubber butt pad helps to tame recoil.

MSRP has not been officially been set, but we are looking at the $800.00 range.

http://www.keltecweapons.com/news/preview-kel-tec-shotgun-ksg

 

[TheRoland]

Posted today...



http://www.keltecweapons.com/news/preview-kel-tec-shotgun-ksg

If they make it work sometime this decade, I will be on that like a mall-ninja on rails.

 

[kevin9]

...and it's not a bullpup. It's just a very short barreled shotgun with a unique mag system.

It's definitely a bullpup. 26.1" overall length minus 18.5" barrel equals 7.6" behind the breech face. The trigger is at least in the center of the gun, maybe forward of center, at least 5" forward of the breech face. It looks like the rear portion of the barrel is shrouded.

 

[glide]

If MSRP is $800 I'm definitely picking one up.

 

[Kevin_NH]

Imagine this loaded with Aguila mini shells. 24+1?

 

[pdm]

It looks like the rear portion of the barrel is shrouded.

The thing that goes up?

 

[william_munny]

I take it this is the downward-facing ejection port?

If so, that should end the non-bullpup argument.

 

[calsdad]

I take it this is the downward-facing ejection port?

If so, that should end the non-bullpup argument.

No need for a brass catcher - the husks will all just end up in your jacket pocket.

 

[DickWanner]

I can't wait to get my hands on one to see how much twisting-torque I can apply to the forend with the pistol grip. That will be the real indicator of quality and longevity on this one.

 

[beaker]

If it looks like a pup...

It sure looks like a bull pup to me, with a not so short 18" barrel.

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[Uncle Fester]

I can't wait to get my hands on one to see how much twisting-torque I can apply to the forend with the pistol grip.

My money's on "a lot".

 

[Supermoto]

I'm going to get one just to shoot trap at the country club.

 

[Uncle Fester]

I'm going to get one just to shoot trap at the country club.

Fooped shot trap at my club with his SPAS-12.

 

[dcmdon]

If it actually goes into production, it will be classified DD like the Striker.

Why do you say that? I have a 20 round drum for my Saiga? It was a different (antigun) climate in the 80s when the street sweeper and the striker were "banned".

 

[CRSIII]

If this thing were designed by FN or H&K, I'd be more inclined to get excited.

I guess I'm with Derek on this one.

 

[jshooter]

I'm going to get one just to shoot trap at the country club.

With cylinder bore, and no indication from Keltec about a threaded choke tube, you better jump on the targets quick.

 

[walkit]

Ever try using any bullpup from the other shoulder? Think you always get to choose which side of cover you will have to fire around? Want to expose your entire torso in order to fire? that's what fiing RH around the left side of cover forces you to do.

 

[DickWanner]

Ever try using any bullpup from the other shoulder? Think you always get to choose which side of cover you will have to fire around? Want to expose your entire torso in order to fire? that's what fiing RH around the left side of cover forces you to do.

Did you eat paint chips as a kid or did mommy just drop you on your head?

 

[ChevyGuy91]

Did you eat paint chips as a kid or did mommy just drop you on your head?

Who cares about that bag of douche, if we ignore him he might go away.

I think it looks kind of like a mini, upside down BFG9000, so I think I need one.

 

[Rob]

I'm getting one and that's that.

I love the funky stuff. I'm still kicking myself for not getting a Crossfire MK-1 for $200 a few years back, but I redeemed myself on a killer FS2000 deal.

Get em while you can.

 

[SKS Ray]

Hell, the Kushnapup project had an idea:

I can't believe there hasn't been one reputable company to come up with this mod for Saiga 12s. Is it because the JBTs would be kicking in the door as the design went to production?!

 

[atmay]

That doesn't look like it'd be comfy to fire, Ray. With the sticks it looks like it'd be fine, but not that drum.