Linsky after bump stocks AND pre ban mags !!!!!!!!!

Imagine if every firearm owner tossed a box of ammo in Boston harbor and said these first shots are a warning to stop the stripping away our constitutional right to bear arms!

March the Freedom trail and light up the lantern at the steeple in the North Church and stop at the massacre site to pay respect for those brave men.

Then continue our march to the Boston Harbor and drop in our box of ammo in opposition of all unjust laws written against the second amendment here in MA.

GOAL and the NRA would be cowering in the corner in wait of such a reaction...

Firearm rights groups are just trading freedom cards in hope of getting the one they want.

It is every single citizens duty to protect freedom.

Not a few political group's responsibilities..

Don't rely on them to do what you should be doing yourself!
 
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The big difference between the US of A and England is that the people here have a 2nd Amendment written in our constitution.We are not a Monarchy. We are a Democracy that is supposed to be a government of the people, by the people, for the people. Not for the Elitist, to keep the poor restrained, for the elitist!Politicians and their ties to main stream media are pushing false lies to convince the uneducated people that more new laws will stop the murders from killing innocent people.The heart driven people want something done immediately. But the new laws will do nothing to change the mind of someone that is determined to kill.Instead they go after the inanimate objects that were used to commit such acts.Like I said before have we put any laws on aircraft since 9/11? Like limit the amount of fuel they can carry or the size of there engines or ban aircraft by class or size or type. We all know it was those bad, naughty turbine engine types that cause all the deaths..Have we banned all the chemicals and Ford or Chevy vans so there would be no way to transport them as a homemade bomb as was used in Oklahoma?What about the pressure cookers used in the Boston marathon terrorist bombing attack. Why have our politicians not acted on prohibiting those?England has gone full retard and is banning kitchen knifes..Yet, the acid attacks are on the rise...Cain killed Able with a rock.But you didn't see them banning anything.Nothing will stop the a killer from killing. Unless a good person fights back!In our country it seems as though those in govt. want us all trained in hand to hand combat to stop armed and dangerous killers.Because they disarm only the innocent while having their own privately armed security protect the politicians and their elitist families..Oh, and those two faced Hollywood actors that don't trust us non-Hollywood types with any kind of weapon.While they live in armed fortresses and have more security than the president! The founding fathers of America understood that.They understood that a govt. could impose it's will without mercy and wipe out it's people's freedom, way of life and their very lives.They put in the second amendment so as a last line of defense each person could be armed to preserve life, liberty and overthrow the tyrants that impose such laws!We right now live in the exact times that they so properly predicted when such an amendment was a right of a free people. We are living in a time when those in political office want the people to lay down their arms and submit to a total police state.Where it will be where those that follow no written law will be fighting against those that rule the land by force.The sheeple will believe it as all for their own good as they can not make right decisions for themselves...Freedoms safest place is in the hand of every American. But only when it is understand that with said freedom is the responsibility of knowing that someday you may actually have to use them!

Sorry to say, you have it wrong right from the get go.We are not a democracy, we are a constitutional republic, where the individual has the right to a redress of grievances via due process even if he or she is the only one in the entire country that is opposed to the oppression that befalls them.We are a nation of laws and that law is supposed to protect ME from YOU, YOU from ME, and BOTH OF US from the government. It is government's foremost DUTY to uphold and carry out that law or be subject to the punishments that are applicable. In the case of treason, that punishment is death.

And please use paragraphs, it makes it so much easier for people to absorb you point. Thanks!
 
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Imagine if every firearm owner tossed a box of ammo in Boston harbor and said these first shots are a warning to stop the stripping away our constitutional right to bear arms!March the Freedom trail and light up the lantern at the steeple and stop at the massacre site to pay respect for those brave men.Then continue our march to the Boston Harbor and drop in our box of ammo in opposition of all unjust laws written against the second amendment here in MA.GOAL and the NRA would be cowering in the corner in wait of such action...Firearm rights groups are just trading freedom cards in hope of getting the one they want.It is every single citizens duty to protect freedom.Not a few political groups responsibilities..Don't rely on them to do what you should be doing yourself!
No, imagine if they threw those boxes of ammunition onto the steps of the statehouse or the Boston Common. That way they would be observed and acknowledged by the tyrants on Beacon Hill.Nitrogenation of the harbor is a useless act. Lawn fertilizers already have that covered.

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Why do we always limit ourselves to 2 options? It's always let the Dems run roughshod or let the R's capitulate with a bill that isn't AS bad.... how about the third option???? TEA IN THE HARBOR.
Or, bullets to the brain pan. By the way, how is it that you are so concerned with gun rights but have 8 posts in many years?

Your actual concern is nil.
 
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Sorry to say, you have it wrong right from the get go.We are not a democracy, we are a constitutional republic, where the individual has the right to a redress of grievances via due process even if he or she is the only one in the entire country that is opposed to the oppression that befalls them.We are a nation of laws and that law is supposed to protect ME from YOU, YOU from ME, and BOTH OF US from the government. It is government's foremost DUTY to uphold and carry out that law or be subject to the punishments that are applicable. In the case of treason, that punishment is death.

Perfect! [iwojima]
 
Lets review "Compromise" vs "Capitulation".

If this were a "Compromise" then both sides would give something up to find middle ground......an example of "Compromise" would be giving up bump stocks for national reciprocity

Thats not whats shaping up to go down here.....

Whats being proposed is "Capitulation"....one side gives in to the other....no concessions, no compromise, nothing in return.
 
John Rosenthal, founder of the nonprofit Stop Handgun Violence, said he supports a ban on bump stocks but the state should take other steps such as outlawing sales of military-grade ammunition, like the .223 caliber bullet used in AR-15 rifles.

Rosenthal is such a ****bag.
 
Is this going to gain traction tomorrow at opening bell? I hope everyone and I mean everyone is doing more than complaining on the internet.............
 
That's ok we'll just say that the .223 round is the ATF's fault and just let them ban it so they won't ban gran dads .22lr..[rofl]
 
Don’t forget the knives and screwdrivers.

Don't forget pointed sticks.

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Why do we always limit ourselves to 2 options? It's always let the Dems run roughshod or let the R's capitulate with a bill that isn't AS bad.... how about the third option???? TEA IN THE HARBOR.

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Rosenthal is such a ****bag.

John Rosenthal, founder of the nonprofit Stop Handgun Violence, said he supports a ban on bump stocks but the state should take other steps such as outlawing sales of military-grade ammunition, like the .223 caliber bullet used in AR-15 rifles.

WTF is military grade ammunition ?
 
John Rosenthal, founder of the nonprofit Stop Handgun Violence, said he supports a ban on bump stocks but the state should take other steps such as outlawing sales of military-grade ammunition, like the .223 caliber bullet used in AR-15 rifles. “

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you would think that a gun ban org ,taking in thousands of dollars, would hire a spokesperson who is not a total fool.
 
John Rosenthal, founder of the nonprofit Stop Handgun Violence, said he supports a ban on bump stocks but the state should take other steps such as outlawing sales of military-grade ammunition, like the .223 caliber bullet used in AR-15 rifles. “

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you would think that a gun ban org ,taking in thousands of dollars, would hire a spokesperson who is not a total fool.

He's not a fool. Ban .223 and all the ARs in the state are useless. He's dumb like a fox
 
you would think that a gun ban org ,taking in thousands of dollars, would hire a spokesperson who is not a total fool.

Johnny Grab Your Guns donates 10-30k of his own money ONE TIME to found an activist 'charity' for the tax write-off, and then fundraises 10-100x that from others, claims credit, mugs the camera for self promoting ego masturbation, and then pays himself or relatives a six figure salary. The guy has a half dozen phony charities. He is a weasel that only has money thanks to mom & being a towel boy for some Kennedy cousins. Total douche!

Edit: Oh, and his imprisonment for protesting nuclear power should also make him 'unsuitable' for a FID. But money bags McFudd hasn't had his "duck gun" and FID yanked because laws are for little people.
 
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It will never work out in our favor. Does anyone here have the media lapping up our words and broadcasting them 24-7? The F...ing politicians have everything they need to spread lies and people gobble it up. How do you stand a chance when it's all stacked against you everywhere you turn?

Greg
 
If the NRA posted the truth about firearm crimes and how Chicago and the war on drugs are such poster child's for making communities safe..[rolleyes]
Cause we all know that illegal drugs have been removed from our streets do to those incredible laws that prevent such from happening..[rofl]

Spend some money on tv or radio ads or social media instead of bribing politicians to vote their way...

Everything is a function of cash...
 
If the NRA posted the truth about firearm crimes and how Chicago and the war on drugs are such poster child's for making communities safe..[rolleyes]
Cause we all know that illegal drugs have been removed from our streets do to those incredible laws that prevent such from happening..[rofl]

Spend some money on tv or radio ads or social media instead of bribing politicians to vote their way...

Everything is a function of cash...

Except the media is hateful towards the NRA and so you won't get them to run ads that disprove their talking points. Do you really see CNN taking their money and putting on any NRA ads?
 
Then it's time for the NRA TV Channel!
Protecting civil rights one show at a time![smile]


Except the same media companies that are super hostile towards the 2A are the ones who own all the cable and satellite providers. And I can't see the FCC giving the NRA access to a national broadcast channel.
 
Sen. Chris Murphy of Connecticut responded to last week’s Las Vegas massacre by issuing a statement in which he claimed: “Already this year there have been more mass shootings than days in the year.” That was last Monday, the 275th day of 2017. Can Mr. Murphy possibly be right?
Certainly not by the ordinary definition of “mass shootings,” which includes attacks such as the one in Las Vegas this month, at the Pulse nightclub in Orlando, Fla., in 2016, and at Colorado’s Columbine High School in 1999. Of late such infamous crimes have hit the national news several times a year—nowhere near a daily basis. Gun-control advocates like Mr. Murphy seek to alarm the public by exaggerating the scale of the problem.
The FBI defines “mass murder” as “four or more victims slain, in one event, in one location.” Starting with the FBI’s definition of four or more fatalities, the Congressional Research Service reported that from 1999 through 2013 there were an average of 20 to 22 mass shootings in the U.S. annually. In an average year, four of these would be “mass public shootings”—the kind that often get national media attention. Of the rest, about half were “familicides”—killings within a family or estranged family, usually taking place in a private residence. The other half were “attributable to an underlying criminal activity or commonplace circumstance,” such as armed robbery, gang activity, insurance fraud or romantic triangles.
The website Mass Shooting Tracker, by contrast, counted 340 mass shootings in the U.S. between New Year’s Day and last Monday—consistent with Mr. Murphy’s claim of more than one a day. The site uses a much broader definition of mass shooting: “an incident where four or more people are shot in a single shooting spree. This may include the gunman himself, or police shootings of civilians around the gunman.” Under this definition, the shootings needn’t be fatal.
It’s not surprising that people who favor gun confiscation would prefer an indiscriminate methodology. But it’s not helpful in actually reducing violence. Different solutions are needed for different types of crimes.
Bump stocks, such as the one the Las Vegas shooter used, are irrelevant for ordinary crimes because they degrade a firearm’s accuracy. To reduce fatalities in mass public attacks, it would be sensible to require that anyone who buys a device that makes a normal gun fire as fast as a machine gun go through the same arduous federal process as those who buy an actual machine gun. Unfortunately, a bill introduced by Sen. Dianne Feinstein is so overbroad that it outlaws normal modifications to standard firearms—such as changing a spring to reduce the trigger pull weight from six pounds to five.
The good news is that for gun crime in general the U.S. has had a quarter-century of success. The robberies, domestic violence and other crimes that comprise nearly all “mass shootings” broadly defined are simply the worst examples of ordinary gun crime. Since peaking in the early 1990s, gun homicide has declined by half nationwide. Overall gun crime victimization is down by three-fourths. In this same period, the American gun supply grew by 80 million, so that there is now slightly more than one gun per person in the U.S.
Scholars suggest diverse causes for the crime decline. To the extent that gun policy has made a difference, Americans in the past quarter-century have made their gun laws both stricter and more permissive. Today, unlike in 1992, there are many laws against gun possession by persons with domestic-violence records, whether misdemeanor convictions or restraining orders. Extensive and uncontradicted social-science indicates that such persons are much likelier to commit gun crimes, especially domestic ones.
Improved interstate data-sharing has facilitated laws against gun possession by prohibited persons. Tougher sentencing for criminals who use firearms in a violent crime has been an important cause of mass incarceration, and those longer sentences have helped reduce gun violence of all types.
On the other hand, unlike in 1992, right-to-carry is now the national norm. In all but a few states, adults with safety training and a fingerprint background check have a legal right to bear a firearm for lawful defense. State pre-emption laws have eliminated many local antigun restrictions.
Although gun crime has been way down, 56% of Americans in a 2013 Pew Researchsurveythought gun crime was higher than 20 years earlier. Only 12% realized that such crime was lower, and fewer still realized how much lower it was. One cause of public misunderstanding is the widespread repetition of inflated figures about mass shootings.
Dubious statistics to terrify the American public are not new to the gun-control debate. The truth is that the U.S. has made tremendous gains in gun safety since the 1990s, and has done so without adopting the confiscatory and other extreme proposals some gun-control advocates demand.
Mr. Kopel is research director of the Independence Institute
 
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