Therein lies another problem...It certainly has the feel of being almost like protection money does it not?
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Therein lies another problem...It certainly has the feel of being almost like protection money does it not?
Folks, transparency is a great thing. A little disclosure and honesty can really clear the air. Right now I'm looking at the 2009 form 990 and imagining I am doing some forensic auditing. Here are some questions I would ask:
There is $90,000 in "other expenses". That's almost 20% of revenue. Where does that go?
Do any other payments go to related parties? I ask about $12,000 in consulting fees above. How about vendors of other goods and services? Who owns the GOAL building? Is the $11,400 in "occupancy" expenses rent?
Simple clarity and communication would clear a lot of this up.
There is $90,000 in "other expenses". That's almost 20% of revenue. Where does that go?
Do any other payments go to related parties? I ask about $12,000 in consulting fees above. How about vendors of other goods and services? Who owns the GOAL building? Is the $11,400 in "occupancy" expenses rent?
Simple clarity and communication would clear a lot of this up.
richc
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This... exactly and totally.
And, Len, regarding your statement:
"This is the "instantaneous generation" with smartphones people expect a response within minutes. I'm sure that the financials involved will take some considerable time to gather up and calculate out. "
Damn it, man, I own and run a company with four offices around the country with many employees and many, many times the revenue of GOAL. My bookkeeper could retrieve that info in a matter of minutes. If analysis is required she might take a few hours. The info is all there. GOAL's BOD was apprised of this request a month and a half ago.
Len, I don't know you well, but I do know some folks who say you are as honest as they come and a straight shooter. I believe them. All I'm asking GOAL to do, as they are required to do as a nonprofit, is to respond to member concerns about a potential conflict of interest and how their member dues and funds are being spent.
Dude, rather than minimizing the issue, I'd expect a straight shooter like you to get behind the notion of full disclosure and transparency. It's their damn legal obligation.
I really respect GOAL, and it infuriates me that there could be some improper use of membership dollars. That should infuriate you too.
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wolf223
+100000000000000000
just like anything else, you can be a cashier at Walmart or a top excec... the $$$$$ has to be accounted for. in this case, it seems "iffy" at best.
i'm not even going sit here and pretend i know all the laws pertaining to this or say "i was told"... i'm looking at Raw data that shows something stinks. like a crowded gun store stinks.
This thread started last night around 5:30, under 28 hours ago.
Apology accepted. (This thread started last night around 5:30, under 28 hours ago.)
(This thread started last night around 5:30, under 28 hours ago.) Why the big hurry? Let them find out about it first. Don't forget it is Summer vacation time, and the Public Safety folks are on hiatus, so chances are good that GOAL staff is minimal right now.
A bunch of good points here.
(This thread started last night around 5:30, under 28 hours ago.)
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(This thread started last night around 5:30, under 28 hours ago.)
(This thread started last night around 5:30, under 28 hours ago.)
Good questions. Give them a chance to answer. I imagine the board meets once a month. This gives them a while to even hear about it, then another month to respond. Patience, Grasshopper!
(This thread started last night around 5:30, under 28 hours ago.)
Where do you get a month and a half from? Does your company have a board which meets once a month?
Give them a chance. Yet I agree, some data should be forthcoming.
Repeating this over and over again doesn't make the failure to respond to Bob's original inquiry (lodged well before this thread started) any less true.
This isn't an invocation of godwin's law here, but channeling Goebbels doesn't help.
-Mike
This thread may have started last night but the issue was raised with them 6/6. That's where Rich gets the 'month and a half'. The thread specifies that - though it is a bit long and you may have missed that.
And my apology was pro-forma.
It was. However, the question was originally posed in June, considerably more than 28 days ago.
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wolf223
the hair splitting in this thread should get this thread renamed.... The Tyra Banks Show
If this were my problem I would get my ass in gear and fix it. Assuming everything is fine and concerns voiced here are unfounded, then I would issue a statement that says so. Tell us:
1) The expense for The Outdoor Message is $X. It's a great deal. The board sought bids from Y and Z and it turns out the related party is providing a great service for a low price.
2) The consulting expense is paid to party A. They do a great job, which is B. It's money well spent on a vital service.
3) No other related party expenses exist. Or, if they do, here is why, and here is how they save GOAL money. "Other expenses" of $90K per year and things like rent, office supplies, and other costs are at market rates and for necessary goods or services.
Tell us it's OK. Tell us it's honorable, decent, a good use of funds, and necessary to educating the public and pursuing gun rights in Massachusetts. This is what we want to hear. Nobody wants GOAL to fail. Nobody wants GOAL to look bad. So get moving and answer these questions.
As said earlier, these questions don't require a study and they don't take 6 weeks to answer. Delay looks bad. Put these issues to rest and do it quickly. You folks who justify anything else are not doing GOAL any favors. The cure here is sunshine, not darkness.
1) The expense for The Outdoor Message is $X. It's a great deal. The board sought bids from Y and Z and it turns out the related party is providing a great service for a low price.
2) The consulting expense is paid to party A. They do a great job, which is B. It's money well spent on a vital service.
3) No other related party expenses exist. Or, if they do, here is why, and here is how they save GOAL money. "Other expenses" of $90K per year and things like rent, office supplies, and other costs are at market rates and for necessary goods or services.
Tell us it's OK. Tell us it's honorable, decent, a good use of funds, and necessary to educating the public and pursuing gun rights in Massachusetts. This is what we want to hear. Nobody wants GOAL to fail. Nobody wants GOAL to look bad. So get moving and answer these questions.
As said earlier, these questions don't require a study and they don't take 6 weeks to answer. Delay looks bad. Put these issues to rest and do it quickly. You folks who justify anything else are not doing GOAL any favors. The cure here is sunshine, not darkness.
Wow! 500 x $21 = $10,500 per year.
There is NO WAY this website (plus a couple free guns) costs that much.
Nice revenue stream.![[thinking]](/xen/styles/default/xenforo/smilies.vb/010.gif "Thinking [thinking]")
Maybe Derek will weigh in with how many hours he spends administering the site. Time is money after all, unless you think that time should be given free.
Also, fwiw, Mike Yacino is/was an executive director of GOAL. Personally, I'd be happy to not receive the Outdoor Message and have the publishing costs go towards something more useful.
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Its nice to see the socislists here outing themselves.
Dont like it. go start your own site. Socialistshooters.com
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Boy, ain't that the truth. I cannot believe the shit throwing and pure mindless nonsense that I am reading here.
What we are witnessing here is nothing short of a thinly-veiled attempt to destroy GOAL.
What the anti's couldn't do, some belligerent folks here seem more than happy to do.
Amazing. Simply amazing. I don't think I've ever been witness to anything like it.
CLMN
Oh please!
That has to be the most overly dramatic post yet in a thread someone called the Tyra Banks show. No one is trying to destroy GOAL. We're TRYING to get them to answer a question about their finances. If you don't give a crap about it, bury your head back in the sand. Me? I care about how an organization that I believe in and support spends its money.
If GOAL stopped TOM, I am 100% CERTAIN that GOAL would founder and fail within a few years. TOM keeps GOAL in mind and in front of many people, without which people would forget that their membership ran out and just fade away. I was a Charter Member of LEAA and eventually stopped hearing from them and had no idea what happened to the org until a few years ago . . . net is that I haven't been a member now for a very long time and am not inclined to think that re-upping is worthwhile . . . the same thing would happen to GOAL.
YES. the OP should have been given a realistic estimated date for a real response. GOAL BOD dropped that ball.
Transparency would indeed be welcomed. I do most of my reading in the head and have no desire to have a laptop (or other electronic equivalent) there. My eyesight isn't great and perhaps that's why I find it tedious to read lengthy docs online and tend to print them out to read.
I get 100+ Emails/day and don't open many of them that don't appear urgent/very important. Newsletters and other such things usually go to archives unopened . . . a GOAL e-paper would suffer that same fate vs. the fact that I do go thru every page of TOM these days and read articles/minutes that appear interesting.
Different people need different options.
I'm certain that the $11.4K represents GOAL's rent payment to The GOAL Foundation, which owns the building.
I don't believe that any GOAL Officers read NES and probably don't even use computers for much of anything.
The GOAL Treasurer is a volunteer position, unpaid and likely does not have his fingers on all the info instantly. Furthermore, it is unlikely that anyone can give out any info until after the researcher reports to the entire BOD and is given permission to release some specified info. I served on a corporate BOD (local access TV corporation) and I was forbidden from talking with Verizon or Comcast or even mentioning that I was a BOD member. I found these rules onerous and after completing someone else's term and one term of my own, I opted NOT to run again. I'll assume that GOAL is not much different in this regard.
Where were you in 1998? Were you at the Ch. 180 hearings? Were you at the GOAL Rally on Boston Commons? in Carver (with Suzanna Gratia Hupp)? the rally in Hudson (think that was the governor's house)? [I was at all the above except the Hudson rally.] You've been telling all of us what GOAL should do for years now . . . what have you done? Many of your posts show that you have no idea how politics works (by law or by reality)!
OK, so who owns or operates the GOAL Foundation? The latest 990 I see is here, and signed by Michael Yacino.
In 1998, GOAL gave $17,195 to the GOAL Foundation. $9,000 of rent for 2008 brings that up to $26,195. There could be other payments to the foundation not itemized. In any case, the GOAL Foundation shows expenses of just over $45,000 in 2008 with the biggest line item being "program expenses" of about $30,000. There are no payroll expenses (how does it operate?).
In 1998, I first woke up. I had a Beretta Cougar gift-boxed set in my hand one week, and the next, I couldn't buy it. That is when "it" started for me. Yes, I was at the GOAL rally. No to Carver. Yes, I was in Hudson. I think it was at one of these events I first met you Len. So piss off, Len, with your holier than thou crap. I think I have a fairly good idea of how things work or don't work. Funny, I didn't see you and your little baseball cap at the State House hearings last year or this year. I didn't see you at the Mass Sportsman's Council meeting either. How about the Big Moe? Just give it up, Len.
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That wins the award for the most idiotic post of this thread...Try again genius - or maybe, don't...
Seriously?
![[rolleyes]](/xen/styles/default/xenforo/smilies.vb/042.gif "Roll Eyes [rolleyes]")
Funds are being syphoned off from GOAL and nobody knew about it.
You are so totally off in that response it's ridiculous.
You are a sheep waiting to be culled.
We all support GOAL here. What we don't support is people that could be possibly robbing money from them.
![[hmmm]](/xen/styles/default/xenforo/smilies.vb/009.gif "Hmm [hmmm]")
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Derek probably makes a decent profit over his expenses, maybe even a few grand (at least I hope so). Which even if it sounds like a lot, really isn't. Nobody is going to retire, or even have their lifestyle substantially improved, on ~ $5k if it even approaches that.
I do hope he treats his moderators to a real nice steak dinner once a year at least!
GOAL, whether or not a non-profit, is still an organization with a charter (right?) or at least a mission, and by and large they seem to be striving to follow it. Maybe the TOM situation just evolved and it was easier to stay with it. Maybe the magic $90k is more than just TOM printing and postage. Maybe its all a racket.
It IS something GOAL should make an extra special effort to
1) Explain, assuming there isn't some underlying scam
or
2) Own up to and correct the situation, if there is.
By way of reference, a 16 page newspaper costs ~ $1500 / month to printer 10k copies, not counting postage. I don't know the postage rates on newspapers.
Derek probably makes a decent profit over his expenses, maybe even a few grand (at least I hope so). Which even if it sounds like a lot, really isn't. Nobody is going to retire, or even have their lifestyle substantially improved, on ~ $5k if it even approaches that.
I do hope he treats his moderators to a real nice steak dinner once a year at least!
GOAL, whether or not a non-profit, is still an organization with a charter (right?) or at least a mission, and by and large they seem to be striving to follow it. Maybe the TOM situation just evolved and it was easier to stay with it. Maybe the magic $90k is more than just TOM printing and postage. Maybe its all a racket.
It IS something GOAL should make an extra special effort to
1) Explain, assuming there isn't some underlying scam
or
2) Own up to and correct the situation, if there is.
By way of reference, a 16 page newspaper costs ~ $1500 / month to printer 10k copies, not counting postage. I don't know the postage rates on newspapers.
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wolf223
you guys need to get laid. and you also need to read the whole thread. there ARE some valid concerns on here, which have NOT been answered.
Why get laid when you can bitch here for free/cost of membership? I for one thought that they would have their own newsletter supported by businesses; but apparently that is incorrect, from what I've read. But I freely admit that I don't know sh*t about anything, as most people here already believe.
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First, thanks for the warm wishes. Mom is battling cancer and during a regular visit found her platelet level down to 8 which required an emergency transfusion. She will likely spend the night for monitoring, but is doing OK otherwise. (well as OK as you can while undergoing chemo and radiation treatments)
I've talked to Ron (GOAL President) and some of the others about this issue. Again, I CAN NOT speak to the question of the Outdoor Message as the board's report is not complete. But to speak to the other accusations and misleading stories...
1) the person who was tasked to write up the report was unemployed when given the assignment and has since found employment. Since all BOD members are essentially volunteers, the research has taken longer than expected. This was explained to the person asking for the information in a correspondence that was read to me. While a specific time frame was not given, it did express a desire to get the information as soon as possible.
2) Ed George (GOAL's Lawyer) got into the picture due to the need to disclose financial information. GOAL makes a concerted effort to keep the membership secret so that such information can not be used in any way against the organization or its members. Circulation and publication numbers might have some impact on that and the lawyer was consulted for some reason I do not know. My understanding is that the person preparing the report mentioned to our lawyer that the person asking the question was becoming impatient and Ed sent a note explaining the situation. I have not seen the contents of this note, but having worked with Ed for almost a decade with two different firearm related organizations, I know that he is not one to send anything that wasn't professional.
3) The Outdoor Message organization is fairly complex. The publishing was pulled out of GOAL for the purpose of protecting the organization in the case the publication became insolvent. The Outdoor Message does not actually print the newsletter, that is contracted out to a printing company (who I'm sure makes a profit) that I know has changed from time to time seeking best prices. Outdoor Message basically edits and manages the member information. This prevents the membership list from leaving "friendly" hands. I can not stress how much effort is made to secure membership data.
I'm not going to get into the he said, he said banter. Suffice it to say that the request for information was received, discussed, assigned, researched, is being written up, and will be delivered. The requester knows the person responsible for the write up and has communicated with that person directly. As things stand right now, the report is not yet ready for review, so it has not been added to any agenda. When it is ready, it will be presented to the board in general and voted, amended, or rejected for release. I can not tell you any more than this.
Now as for how the organization publishes its information, that is entirely a different matter. Right now, the Outdoor Message is one of several methods. One can not simply put the Outdoor Message on-line as the format used is not very browser friendly and is formatted for a newspaper style layout. Producing an electronic version would take an extra effort. There is advertising involved that would need to be dealt with, etc.
Certainly, it is worth looking into. Anyone willing to volunteer to take on the task of researching and making a recommendation?
As for contacting the board, all our names and towns are listed in the Outdoor Message. Open the paper to the middle and look at the top of the left page. Simply address individual letters to the person in care of the GOAL office and we will get them. Or, send a general message to the board via the office and it will be copied and distributed.
OK, some specific answers:
Since I was not copied on everything, I can not say for sure how the communication was handled. Discussing things in hindsight it seems that information was provided, but I know how a situation can be entirely different depending on the point of view. One thing that was missing is that no one seems to have said "the information will be presented at a future meeting". I can see where that lack of information could easily produce a "left hanging" feeling. I can not speak for the board, but for myself, I'm sorry that the process was not made clearer.
The problem is the forum in which such questions are asked. Believe it or not, GOAL's employees are instructed NOT to troll Internet boards while at work. Lurking here is NOT in anyone's job description. We do not pay the staff to answer every message board request. If a member wants to know something, they can call, write, or walk in. Posting blindly on an Internet forum and expecting a response is like posting that your Jeep is acting strange and expecting Chrysler respond. Now, a member asked the board a question about the way it is conducting business and while I'm sorry the answer wasn't as quick as expected, it WAS the proper way.
By law, everything IS public. However, an organization does not have to stand on the top of a podium and exclaim every last inner working. Attendance is not required for an answer, but understand that not all answers are instant. Even if (as did occur) the question is asked in front of the entire board, an answer is not always going to be available instantly. Not only may the complete information not be available, but some information requires careful presentation. And yes, that presentation will in some cases be designed to conceal. There are a lot of people and organizations that would love to exploit GOAL if they could. Just as competitors use information in business. Part of the Board's task is to avoid exposing anything that could hurt the organization or its members. I hope that this makes sense.
Last time I looked, the GOAL Bylaws did not set up a publishing company. Should we also become an ISP to provide our Internet content? How about building guns to supply the Junior teams? Being a publisher simply isn't GOAL's job. Just as the Army hires General Dynamics to build their toys while they focus on using them, GOAL needs to focus on preserving our rights, not dealing with publishing a newspaper.
Never been presented. At least, not in the past 7 years or so.
Personally I love the idea. However, my "is this the best use of funds" filter is looking for an ROI. An over the top shock factor might get the publicity to drive interest, but it might also alienate members. GOAL is not just a handgun/Black Rifle group. Maybe a wildlife management/hunting message would drive more new member interest. That's the difficulty. Frankly, I'd rather be a part of an independent grass roots group that wants to "Send a message" than try to express all GOAL does in a single image.
GOAL's treasurer is a volunteer, has a day job, family, and does not have any involvement with the production of the Outdoor Message. But feel free to send your bookkeeper over, we could use the help. And after the several hours of research, she can contact all the other volunteer Board Members and try to find a date that enough of them can meet to approve the report in the summer with vacations, kids, parents undergoing cancer treatment, etc.
Simple!
OK, its late. I'm beat. I hope that somewhere in the above text I managed to explain what is going on. If not? Send me your bio and I'll see about getting you on this year's ballot for the BOD.
I've talked to Ron (GOAL President) and some of the others about this issue. Again, I CAN NOT speak to the question of the Outdoor Message as the board's report is not complete. But to speak to the other accusations and misleading stories...
1) the person who was tasked to write up the report was unemployed when given the assignment and has since found employment. Since all BOD members are essentially volunteers, the research has taken longer than expected. This was explained to the person asking for the information in a correspondence that was read to me. While a specific time frame was not given, it did express a desire to get the information as soon as possible.
2) Ed George (GOAL's Lawyer) got into the picture due to the need to disclose financial information. GOAL makes a concerted effort to keep the membership secret so that such information can not be used in any way against the organization or its members. Circulation and publication numbers might have some impact on that and the lawyer was consulted for some reason I do not know. My understanding is that the person preparing the report mentioned to our lawyer that the person asking the question was becoming impatient and Ed sent a note explaining the situation. I have not seen the contents of this note, but having worked with Ed for almost a decade with two different firearm related organizations, I know that he is not one to send anything that wasn't professional.
3) The Outdoor Message organization is fairly complex. The publishing was pulled out of GOAL for the purpose of protecting the organization in the case the publication became insolvent. The Outdoor Message does not actually print the newsletter, that is contracted out to a printing company (who I'm sure makes a profit) that I know has changed from time to time seeking best prices. Outdoor Message basically edits and manages the member information. This prevents the membership list from leaving "friendly" hands. I can not stress how much effort is made to secure membership data.
I'm not going to get into the he said, he said banter. Suffice it to say that the request for information was received, discussed, assigned, researched, is being written up, and will be delivered. The requester knows the person responsible for the write up and has communicated with that person directly. As things stand right now, the report is not yet ready for review, so it has not been added to any agenda. When it is ready, it will be presented to the board in general and voted, amended, or rejected for release. I can not tell you any more than this.
Now as for how the organization publishes its information, that is entirely a different matter. Right now, the Outdoor Message is one of several methods. One can not simply put the Outdoor Message on-line as the format used is not very browser friendly and is formatted for a newspaper style layout. Producing an electronic version would take an extra effort. There is advertising involved that would need to be dealt with, etc.
Certainly, it is worth looking into. Anyone willing to volunteer to take on the task of researching and making a recommendation?
As for contacting the board, all our names and towns are listed in the Outdoor Message. Open the paper to the middle and look at the top of the left page. Simply address individual letters to the person in care of the GOAL office and we will get them. Or, send a general message to the board via the office and it will be copied and distributed.
OK, some specific answers:
Since I was not copied on everything, I can not say for sure how the communication was handled. Discussing things in hindsight it seems that information was provided, but I know how a situation can be entirely different depending on the point of view. One thing that was missing is that no one seems to have said "the information will be presented at a future meeting". I can see where that lack of information could easily produce a "left hanging" feeling. I can not speak for the board, but for myself, I'm sorry that the process was not made clearer.
The problem is the forum in which such questions are asked. Believe it or not, GOAL's employees are instructed NOT to troll Internet boards while at work. Lurking here is NOT in anyone's job description. We do not pay the staff to answer every message board request. If a member wants to know something, they can call, write, or walk in. Posting blindly on an Internet forum and expecting a response is like posting that your Jeep is acting strange and expecting Chrysler respond. Now, a member asked the board a question about the way it is conducting business and while I'm sorry the answer wasn't as quick as expected, it WAS the proper way.
By law, everything IS public. However, an organization does not have to stand on the top of a podium and exclaim every last inner working. Attendance is not required for an answer, but understand that not all answers are instant. Even if (as did occur) the question is asked in front of the entire board, an answer is not always going to be available instantly. Not only may the complete information not be available, but some information requires careful presentation. And yes, that presentation will in some cases be designed to conceal. There are a lot of people and organizations that would love to exploit GOAL if they could. Just as competitors use information in business. Part of the Board's task is to avoid exposing anything that could hurt the organization or its members. I hope that this makes sense.
Last time I looked, the GOAL Bylaws did not set up a publishing company. Should we also become an ISP to provide our Internet content? How about building guns to supply the Junior teams? Being a publisher simply isn't GOAL's job. Just as the Army hires General Dynamics to build their toys while they focus on using them, GOAL needs to focus on preserving our rights, not dealing with publishing a newspaper.
Never been presented. At least, not in the past 7 years or so.
Personally I love the idea. However, my "is this the best use of funds" filter is looking for an ROI. An over the top shock factor might get the publicity to drive interest, but it might also alienate members. GOAL is not just a handgun/Black Rifle group. Maybe a wildlife management/hunting message would drive more new member interest. That's the difficulty. Frankly, I'd rather be a part of an independent grass roots group that wants to "Send a message" than try to express all GOAL does in a single image.
GOAL's treasurer is a volunteer, has a day job, family, and does not have any involvement with the production of the Outdoor Message. But feel free to send your bookkeeper over, we could use the help. And after the several hours of research, she can contact all the other volunteer Board Members and try to find a date that enough of them can meet to approve the report in the summer with vacations, kids, parents undergoing cancer treatment, etc.
Simple!
OK, its late. I'm beat. I hope that somewhere in the above text I managed to explain what is going on. If not? Send me your bio and I'll see about getting you on this year's ballot for the BOD.
Chris,
Thanks for the thought-out response. I completely understand much of it, and am very thankful for the time people put into GOAL. I understand the commitment it is, and am thankful for the people step up.
Still, this is bureaucratic bullshit. Someone knows the answers to the questions. Maybe you. But instead of just responding to the request, there has been over a month and a half of red tape while the info is washed.
Thanks for the thought-out response. I completely understand much of it, and am very thankful for the time people put into GOAL. I understand the commitment it is, and am thankful for the people step up.
Still, this is bureaucratic bullshit. Someone knows the answers to the questions. Maybe you. But instead of just responding to the request, there has been over a month and a half of red tape while the info is washed.
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Creating an online "image of the newspaper" is one of the dumbest things that publishers do. The Middlesex News has a great web site, but they try to sell the "actual image of the printed page" as a premium product - just plain silly. The comment about "formatted for a newspaper style" is irrelevant, since that format is created only because of the publishing media; it is not the format in which the data is generated for GOAL.
The best way to do an on-line system is to use a content management system like Wordpress, rather than manual HTML editing. As to ads - if GOAL gets ad revenue from TOM, they would need to figure out how to preserve this. On the other hand, if GOAL does not get this revenue, it it possible to host a web site at moderate cost - leaving only the article writing as a GOAL task. Since the articles are generally written by GOAL staff or contributors, the effort to paste the text into a Wordpress page should be moderate.
The "publishers statement" I expect (but am not certain) that TOM prints in one issue each year indirectly provides some info. A web site does not have such a statement. GOAL's desire to keep member numbers secret is well placed , since the number of gun owners it can claim to represent the interests of is almost certainly much, much larger than their membership.
I sympathize with the secrecy concern. Comm2A has a similar issue - we would love to tell NES about the various cases on our spreadsheet of prospects, and which ones are actively being worked by legal counsel, however, tactical considerations preclude that. As Comm2A treasurer, I am very concerned about any appearance of a conflict of interest and steps will be taken to properly document any "associated party" dealings (we do not have any at present, nor do we anticipate any) and avoid any conflict. One policy I established as treasurer is that any reimbursement checks to myself for expenses (of which there have been exactly zero to date) must be signed by another Comm2A officer, not me.
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Not answering or reading emails means loss of revenue in this day of age. I've sent TOM multiple emails to have a free shooting event added to the calender. It was not till I cc'd Jim and Jon did I ever hear a reply. I was told be the POC that it would be in the newsletter and it was never put in. So I have since canceled my subscription. To my knowledge it still is not in TOM.
While $11.4k is not much for rent, the owner of the building should really get the AC fixed. Its pretty miserable going there to do a transfer.
If the GOAL officers don't use computers, they should be brought up to speed or replaced. What percentage of GOAL members use eformats to communicate vs paper?
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