...I've had more than a few occasions where the firearm gets banged up and the trigger is pulled back when I get home despite the trigger safety.
Why would you cock the gun if you don't load the chamber?
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...I've had more than a few occasions where the firearm gets banged up and the trigger is pulled back when I get home despite the trigger safety.
I'll be the first to admit I'm a younger guy and sure I'm not perfect and I'm admittedly fairly new to firearms. This is just what I'm doing, and I have my reasons for doing it. I apologize that I've not gotten a new Holster as I'm not perfect. Thanks to the guys who have advice for me and know common courtesy/respect. I actually do value and appreciate your opinions and come to these forums because of it. I've already met a couple REALLY great people IRL from this forum and plan on continuing to do so.
So bottom line: I don't carry my firearm chambered due to not having a decent holster at this point in time and PERSONALLY don't think it's that big of a deal right now -- that's my choice.
But damn guys. Why do you feel the need to hate so much? You don't even put it in full words to elaborate -- you throw out blanket statements and some picture conveying me to be a complete idiot because I personally don't care much that my firearm is carried unchambered. You'll probably go ahead and elaborate now, but I don't care.
I'd just like to politely request that you guys keep your comments to yourself and leave me alone -- It's not like my unchambered firearm effects anyone but myself in any way/shape/form.
If anyone wants to make a topic about people carrying unchambered firearms I'll chime in with my sadface and you're all more than welcome to bag on me there
It's not like my unchambered firearm effects anyone but myself in any way/shape/form.
If you ever need your Glock 21, you'll need it real bad and you'll need it right now. You can chamber a round quickly if you have two hands free. But your support hand might be busy - fending off the perp, pushing your spouse to safety, holding your child, etc. There are techniques to chamber a round one-handed, but they are difficult to do quickly and reliably, particularly while Mongo is hitting you. As Mike Tyson said, Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth.When I said I never intended to use it I was referring more to the intention to NEED to shoot it. Should that situation arise, your chambered G17 will fire faster than my unchambered G21. I highly doubt a time will arise where I'll not have time to chamber a round real fast given my experience vs. the average idiot out there. If I should have a shoot out with you, sure you'd win. I'll take my chances against a random Joe though.
Good luck
Are you using a holster?I've had more than a few occasions where the firearm gets banged up and the trigger is pulled back when I get home despite the trigger safety.
You need a holster, because whatever you are using now simply isn't one.Perhaps I just need a better Holster.
He's free to carry however he wants to do so. But he's not going to convince me that carrying condition 3 and no spare magazine is wise, and I'll post to the contrary.
The holster he is using now, however, appears to be a danger to himself and others.
I carry a spare mag (or 2) for my carry gun and always keep one in the chamber. I'd keep two in the chamber if they'd fit.
Totally quoteable.
Yes, but sadly, two will fit if you try hard enough, and it doesn't work all that much better.
Methinks it wouldn't work at all
Reps for this. I honestly never really thought about it, but you're right. I'll make it a priority to get a top notch holster that can hold up to my demands. Just being such a rifle guy and not caring about handguns much I've really slacked in the department and honestly neglected to put thought into it.
To Wolf: I have about 2k rounds through the G21 -- a reasonable amount, but not a ton. This is the only sidearm I fire frequently, period. I honestly just need a new holster for it so the tigger doesn't get pulled during physical activities. The only time I ever have it chambered is when I'm going through a bad area or have a lot of cash on me (I take deposits on motor vehicles and often have upwards of 5k~ in cash on the way to the bank).
I'd just like to apologize myself if I came off as an ass or arrogant defending myself -- I'm not used to harsh criticism but I probably deserved it. It's a character trait I need to work on.
I hope we can squash the back and forth on this matter and get the OP back on topic --
I'm going to edit the original post so the debate can end as I'm really curious as to how the poll turns out. If anyone wants to make a topic about people carrying unchambered firearms I'll chime in with my sadface and you're all more than welcome to bag on me there
Yes, but sadly, two will fit if you try hard enough, and it doesn't work all that much better.
Methinks it wouldn't work at all
I'm willing to try it, with someone else's gun!
In a semi auto you should always carry an extra mag regardless of round count. The extra mag is the solution to the jam.
No +1 due to the lack of a reliable safety on the g21. I'm very athletic and do a lot outdoors activities / rock climbing, ice climbing etc.. I've had more than a few occasions where the firearm gets banged up and the trigger is pulled back when I get home despite the trigger safety.
So basically, if I carried the damn thing chambered I'd probably end up shooting myself with it. If this didn't occur, I'd carry it chambered. I'm also not much of a handgun guy; I only own the g21 and a .357 DE Mag I inherited.
Perhaps I just need a better Holster.
All I have to say is:
1) 12/20 burst
2) I'm pretty sure Nick has a Mossberg 835 that he'd be willing to let you try it out on.
I probably would too, the 'ole zombie killer could take it
So, one comment to the OP that I haven't seen here:
What happens if your off hand or arm are unusable as the result of a surprise attack or you are pinned behind a door with only the one arm free.
This may seem like an unlikely scenario but is something you need to consider. How are you going to rack the slide one handed.
Let's look at it the other way... what if your strong side arm or hand is the one unusable... now you need to not only shoot off-hand but try to rack it as well.
Since most violent confrontations are over in seconds you will likely find yourself overcome or severly injured (expired) by the time you are ready to shoot.
My .02
-R
Beyond that is the very definition of none of your damn business.
Besides, a new barrel for those is what? $150? Small price to pay for science.
If a member here is doing something that will more than likely get him dead, you can best bet I'll give him my .02.
He seems like a good dude, why would I want him do continue doing something that I feel is wrong?
Well at least it's not two snap caps.
I don't think we shouldn't offer good advice, I just take exception to the statement that his choice of Condition 1 or 3 impacts those around him.