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I am taking a family member to Logan, it is my understanding that I can carry concealed and there is no restrictions as long as I am in the public area and not going through gates etc.
Any information from wiser heads would be helpful.
Thanks
 
Last time I drove to Logan, they were doing quick searches of vehicles on the way in looking for explosives.

While it might be legal to carry in the public areas of the airport (check in, baggage claim, parking, etc.), it's probably not be a good idea to go on airport property with a loaded gun. I'm sure there are plenty of TSA guys who'd be more than happy to arrest you for "endangering the peace" or some such bullshit.
 
There's been plenty of talk about this here in the past that a quick search will bring up. It's my understanding that you cannot legally carry a concealed & loaded firearm anywhere on the airport property.
 
Iram said:
Last time I drove to Logan, they were doing quick searches of vehicles on the way in looking for explosives.

While it might be legal to carry in the public areas of the airport (check in, baggage claim, parking, etc.), it's probably not be a good idea to go on airport property with a loaded gun. I'm sure there are plenty of TSA guys who'd be more than happy to arrest you for "endangering the peace" or some such bullshit.
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Tsa cannot arrest you. They detain and call the state or local to arrest.

Think of tsa as mall security with a pension plan.


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The 500 ft carry ban is contained in MGL ch90 sec61 and is specific to the 500 ft starting at the high water line of the ocean and extending seaward. If there is a statute covering a 500ft buffer in other directions, could you please cite it?

Also, the carry ban on the non-sterile area of airport property is contained in a CMR, not MGL. Anyone carrying a firearms or explosive (except LE and carry for transport of firearms) is required to deposit said firearm or explosive with the MSP upon entry to airport property. Yeah, I'm sure that would go over really big [grin]

http://www.malegislature.gov/Laws/GeneralLaws/PartI/TitleXIV/Chapter90/Section61
 
MisterHappy said:
Until you print, or flash, then it's "news"......

OK, not "news", but definitely the lead story at 5:00 [rolleyes]
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Also Logan will be in locked down mode. All terminal passenger will be rescreened, hassled and possible reprobe. [devil2]


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A more updated set of rules: archives.lib.state.ma.us/bitstream/handle/.../ocm04109606-2008-02-08.pdf?

Sorry, can't make the link work.


740 CMR: MASSACHUSETTS PORT AUTHORITY
2/8/08 (Effective 2/15/08) 740 CMR - 140
30.04: Firearms, Ammunition and Dangerous Weapons

(1) No person except federal or state law enforcement officers, United States Postal Service,
United States Customs and Border Patrol, Air Carrier employees approved by the TSA, members
of the Armed Forces of the United States and Massachusetts National Guard on official duty and
licensed armored truck service guards with the prior approval of the Authority, who are
authorized and validly licensed to carry Firearms, ammunition and explosives in Massachusetts,
shall carry loaded or otherwise operational Firearms or explosives on the Airport. All persons
shall, promptly upon entering the passenger terminal or General Aviation Terminal, as the case
may be, deliver any unloaded Firearms and ammunition, as they are carrying and licensed to
carry under Massachusetts law to the appropriate Air Carrier agent for transport in the hold of
the aircraft, in the case of commercial flights, or directly to the aircraft, in the case of general
aviation aircraft. For transport on an Air Carrier aircraft, the Firearm shall be delivered to the
agent of the Air Carrier and shall, at all times while on the Airport, be unloaded and contained
in a locked gun case; ammunition shall be stored in a separate container, all in accordance with
all applicable state and federal law. For transport on a general aviation aircraft, Firearms shall,
in all instances be unloaded and either fitted with a trigger lock that disables the trigger or
disassembled for shipment or shall be otherwise rendered unusable by removing the bolt or
otherwise disassembling the firing mechanism, as applicable. All ammunition shall be stored
in a separate box or bag.
 
EC1,

Interesting. Reading it at face value, not even Boston PD could enter Logan property armed! Even in performance of their duties.

Depending on applicability, might this also apply to any other airport in MA under MassPort Authority? I don't know who manages Worcester Airport, for instance.

Also it would NOT surprise me if the underlying MGL doesn't allow this outright prohibition in the CMRs. Personal experience with CMRs (and CFRs for that matter) are that they IGNORE the fact that they are legally bound to stay within the boundaries of the underlying law they are written to implement. In plain English, bureaucrats frequently use CMRs (and CFRs) to "make law" and carry out an agenda beyond that allowed by law.

My interest is purely academic here as I intend to NEVER AGAIN step foot on Logan Airport property, not for any reason. However, I know of Boston Constables that carry and have been at Logan, armed, as part of their job . . . getting escorted by a Trooper who was fully aware that the Constable was armed and had no problem with it . . . and this was post-9/11.

ETA: This also would mean that local LEOs AUTHORIZED to fly ARMED even if transporting a prisoner, would be in violation of the CMR to do so at Logan!! Yup, that'll fly.
 
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MACGYVR said:
Tsa cannot arrest you. They detain and call the state or local to arrest.

Think of tsa as mall security with a pension plan.


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That gets to play with you [thumbsup]
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cja1987 said:
Where do people get these ideas that the TSA can arrest somebody? Have you been living under a rock? Have you ever flown before?
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The TSA calls the police who have jurisdiction at the airport, often stationed directly at the checkpoint, and the police arrest you.

It is a distinction, but not a lot of difference.
 
Man. MA looks worse and worse. I carry every time I drop anyone off at Bradley.

One other interesting point. In my survival kit in my airplane is a take down .22 rifle. I've landed at airports as large as Laguardia and Dulles. It would be interesting to be searched. A firearm is recommended by both the NH and VT aviation authorities as part of your survival kit. (as much as a noise maker as anything else)
 
Doesn't this mean people traveling east on the MA Pike break the law by taking the 1A exit? After all it's underneath the airport. What about entering the Ted Williams Tunnel? That's in the airport too. Concealed is concealed. You need to decide which situation you prefer.
 
This is where the whole suitability crap, arbitrarily administered by a local CLEO just makes a mockery of the rule of law. Based on my read, I'm not a lawyer and you get every cent worth of my free advice, you would only be guilty of criminal trespass if you went on the property armed. But then the problem is the CLEO pulls your permit based on suitability.

fwiw, I've flown into Worchester, Plymouth, Nantickett, and Martha's Vineyard several times armed. My survival kit went with me everywhere. I wonder if there is a carve out in the law for private aircraft and their pilots?

Don
 

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