Call for ban on 'bump stocks'

[Len-2A Training]

And what exactly would that accomplish?

It will increase numbers of Federal PPs, a very worthwhile venture for antis.

 

[Rob Boudrie]

And what exactly would that accomplish?

Well, for starters, people who own them will not be able to take them to any place where they could get ratted out - including gun ranges.

 

[snd1t]

It will increase numbers of Federal PPs, a very worthwhile venture for antis.

Exactly.....but it wont prevent a single crime....even Feinstein has conceded this point

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Well, for starters, people who own them will not be able to take them to any place where they could get ratted out - including gun ranges.

Right so once again zero effect on crime aside from criminalizing gun owners

 

[TheGreekFreak]

Nope, they just make them illegal with a severe penalty and aggressively prosecute when they encounter one.

Exactly. If people knew they had a stock sitting in their house that could land them a minimum of 10 years and a $250K fine, most would turn them in. The thought of being taken away from their families and hurt financially in the process over a firearm accessory is a huge motivator.

These political cowards can buily all but the most stubborn risk taking pro 2A folks if they want to. Until we begin to shift the perspective of these populated liberal cities and get people to see that the promise of safety at the cost of liberties is a tactic used by oppressive governments time and time again, I don't see much hope in the long run.

The sad thing is, when you calmly present our side to reasonable people who have just been overloaded by the media's misinformation, their mind actually changes. Hell, I managed to turn a liberal family member who was on the extreme side of "just ban all guns" to one who questions each gun bill that is proposed and is maybe as pro 2A as me lol she still hates guns and won't touch them but believes in the FREEDOM to have them. All it took was a few civil political discussions and a handful of google searches as she fact checked me. This is the only way forward, just need to get these discussions televised in a way that doesn't make us look batshit gun slinging crazy.

 

[Coyote33]

We have a choice:

1. Concede (tacitly or overtly)

2. Not concede and lose

3. Not concede and have the MA legislature and feds decide bump stocks are OK​

#3 will not happen. Given that reality, which puts us in a better position going forward?

How about 2A, which is lose, but then do nothing, like CT and NY did with their recent SAFE Act and the other thing there?

Basically, didn't they ignore their new crappy laws?

 

[wahsben]

Tonsils to teeth. In that order.

Don't believe they are into the facts in anything they're espousing.

You're correct. They're only into feelings

 

[Boris]

You guys are thinking about this too much. You're talking about laws from the point of view of someone who actually understands the law and is familiar with the device. Congress doesn't know what the **** they're doing, they'll outlaw them with no real enforcement plan because enforcement/confiscation is hard. They'll ban the sale, maybe possession will be become illegal or not and that will be that.

see my sig, making every one into a criminal makes it easy to rule the crowd, everyone is guilty and roams "free" at the pleasure of the .gov

bending over/conceding will not help, because it's not a strategic retreat to regroup or whatever, it's just a retreat. NRA doesn't have some diabolical plan to use it to re-double the effort once the hype blows over. They will push as usual with their constant pressure back and over time we will keep loosing ground.

 

[EJFudd]

Exactly. If people knew they had a stock sitting in their house that could land them a minimum of 10 years and a $250K fine, most would turn them in. The thought of being taken away from their families and hurt financially in the process over a firearm accessory is a huge motivator.

I got news for you: They can figure out a way to screw just about any M******* gunowner they decide they want to screw anyway.

http://www.northeastshooters.com/vb...Improperly-stored-arsenal’-described-in-trial

 

[enbloc]

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[JJ4]

Nope, they just make them illegal with a severe penalty and aggressively prosecute when they encounter one.

How about this: They aren't illegal to own, but they are illegal to install or use on a firearm.

Therefore, no "taking" = no compensation. Nobody needs to turn anything in. But if they catch you with one on a gun you go to PMITA prison.

 

[wahsben]

I call for a ban on corrupt politicians that violate their oaths to uphold the COTUS.

 

[Boris]

I call for a ban on corrupt politicians that violate their oaths to uphold the COTUS.

and when they get caught ****ing their constituents over they get strung up on lamp posts

 

[enbloc]

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[snd1t]

I call for a ban on corrupt politicians that violate their oaths to uphold the COTUS.

I call for mandatory background checks and mental health evaluations for all elected officials

 

[PL-52]

and when they get caught ****ing their constituents over they get strung up on lamp posts

If this was only the case . I'd be buying stock in a rope manufacturer. I'd be rich I tell ya RICH!

 

[Kevin_NH]

Youtube bans "bump" videos, internet overreacts

Youtube emailed a policy update:

“We have long had a policy against harmful and dangerous content,” a YouTube spokesman said in an emailed statement. “In the wake of the recent tragedy in Las Vegas, we have taken a closer look at videos that demonstrate how to convert firearms to make them fire more quickly and we’ve expanded our existing policy to prohibit these videos.”
The company will also ban videos that sell and promote firearms as well as conversion devices and bump stocks — both of which allow semi-automatic guns to fire more similarly to automatic ones.

 

[Reptile]

Youtube emailed a policy update:

"Promote Firearms" - no more Hickok45?

 

[exo]

"Promote Firearms" - no more Hickok45?

Hickok already came out and said he supported the NRA's statement. I unsubbed.

 

[Kevin_NH]

Use of Youtube by dealer/mfgr to specifically sell and promote their product?

"Promote Firearms" - no more Hickok45?

I think this is more about the use of videos by businesses (dealers, manufacturers) to specifically sell and promote their product, kind of like Facebook and Instagram's existing policies?

If so, it is (intentionally?) poorly worded.https://www.cbsnews.com/news/under-pressure-facebook-announces-major-gun-policy-changes/

 

[headednorth]

Better start downloading any vids you want to see in the future. Builds, instructional, technical, etc. They may or may not be banning any and all gun vids but thats the direction theyre going. Better get them while you still can.

 

[enbloc]

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[W.E.C]

Ok, you tech guys, make a site = new tube -unchained!

profit.

 

[enbloc]

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[TLB]

Better start downloading any vids you want to see in the future. Builds, instructional, technical, etc. They may or may not be banning any and all gun vids but thats the direction theyre going. Better get them while you still can.

Better yet, locate and start using alternative media sharing tools that will not pull this bullshit.

 

[W.E.C]

Ooh. DarkTube...

Wait, I though that was called youpown?

 

[Rob Boudrie]

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[Bill Katt]

newtubeunchained.com is available.

 

[exo]

A number of larger channels have been posting to full30.com

 

[DarthRevan]

I just don't understand why any left wingnut wants to ban a product that reduces the effectiveness of a rifle?

In an unrelated thread on bookface, the number of people outraged a guy shot and killed a dog instead of firing a warning shot in the air gives me a good judge of how dumb the average human is.

 

[amm5061]

In an unrelated thread on bookface, the number of people outraged a guy shot and killed a dog instead of firing a warning shot in the air gives me a good judge of how dumb the average human is.

This the one where the idiots let their dogs out free to run and they ran over to the neighbor's and started attacking his chickens? I felt bad about the dogs at first, then immediately switched sides once I read the rest of the information on what was going on.

Irresponsible dog owners are 100% at fault.