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Anti-gun Liberal with a gun

That article made me literally LOL several times.
She would have the same trepidation if she bought a chainsaw, a set of acetylene torches, a tall ladder, etc.
Any dangerous tool will be scary without the knowledge to operate it properly. The fact that she chose to use the tool without knowledge is her own fault.

Perfect! This is a comment I'd love to see posted on the article.


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I see right through her. She didn't get the gun just to see how it is, She got it so that when she goes hard on her anti gun rants noone can accuse her of not knowing anything about guns. I can see her now in her best sad victim voice saying...''I personally know what its like, I owned and carried a gun and I'm here to tell everyone that they are bad and dangerous, take it from me I know because like I said I owned and carried a gun before'' ...ugh people like that make me sick.
 
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She would have the same trepidation if she bought a chainsaw, a set of acetylene torches, a tall ladder, etc.
Any dangerous tool will be scary without the knowledge to operate it properly. The fact that she chose to use the tool without knowledge is her own fault.
Same thing I was going to say. If she took a class and educated herself on the gun's use, she probably wouldn't be scared of it. Of course, then that wouldn't fit her ignorant agenda, so we all know that won't happen.
 
exactly, THAT WOULD not FIT HER AGENDA!!!

And she most certainly has an agenda

Same thing I was going to say. If she took a class and educated herself on the gun's use, she probably wouldn't be scared of it. Of course, then that wouldn't fit her ignorant agenda, so we all know that won't happen.
 
My comments were removed and I wrote nothing mean or negative. Just a very rational response about people going out to buy a gun because they WANT to own a gun and WANT to learn how to use it. People do not buy guns to carry around with no intention of ever using it or learning about it.
 
This is about as clear as it gets.

She's an anti because she has minimal, at best, control of her emotions and lives in a world whose main drive is fear.
 
In a free state with nobody in line, and only using the 4473/NICS, with someone who proceeds all the time (which is most people who aren't criminals) the actual check once the paperwork is filled out is probably 2 minutes or less, assuming the FBI NICS center hasn't gone full retard. In one of the few states where a CCW is accepted in lieu of NICS, (eg, there are a very few states where having a CCW is a proceed by default due to the way CCWs are issued in those states) the actual time is probably even less than that.

-Mike
Good to know!
 
I have been to two basic safety classes, one for me, and as a guest when my girlfriend took hers. Both classes had live fire, both were optional. What was repeated in both classes over and over. This is not enough training. You need to know more before you go out and start carrying a firearm.

I'm not against more training either, provided it is readily available. Having people carry firearms who are clueless on how to operate them is pretty dangerous in and of itself.

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I'm not against more training either, provided it is readily available. Having people carry firearms who are clueless on how to operate them is pretty dangerous in and of itself.
The danger of this pales in comparison to the danger of being disarmed by the state.

Tying your rights to mandatory training is one of many ways they are able to strip you of a right without ever having to go on record discriminating against you...

After all, they didn't ban guns, they just stopped funding training... Or passing you and people who look like you...

This is how institutional racism happens. Barriers to fundamental rights are erected that often even "appear" reasonable to the low information voter, so he/she does not protest against them. The higher information leadership then uses the rules YOU voted for to take your freedoms under complete cover of the law. It then takes years, decades or even centuries before the courts come around to realizing they got it wrong and changing it...

Don't worry about your crazy neighbor... Offer to help them, but you are far more at risk from people who intend to do you harm (whether elected or not) than those who are just idiots...
 
I'm not against more training either, provided it is readily available. Having people carry firearms who are clueless on how to operate them is pretty dangerous in and of itself.

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Just an FYI, it's not rocket science.
 
Just an FYI, it's not rocket science.
No and if we weren't having "squirt-gun turn-ins" and parents squealing and fainting when they saw a gun, the basic realm of "common sense" coming out of childhood would include enough info for the vast majority to go their entire life without a serious mishap without a moment of training...
 
Reading this woman's article, you really have to wonder if someone can really be this broken, yet still function in life? Then you realize the entire progressive societal structure is designed to encourage (force) people into being this way and thus subservient and dependent on the maternal state.
 
the issue is not nor ever has been the fact that gun bigots are scared of people lacking training, this exercise demonstrates nothing. if they ever brought this point up about how untrained ccw holders are their heads would explode. just venturing a guess here, but most people who carry probably train at least a little bit and can at least operate their firearm. accidental shooting that could be prevented through training is not very high up on the causes of death in this country.
 
Don't know if anyone has mentioned this (didn't have time to scan the whole thread), but Instapundit (great blog btw) has an interesting comment up about this. One of his readers observed that he did not recognize any state with the carry regs and fees she described. He posted a comment simply asking what state this was. His comment was first marked for moderation, then deleted. This whole article may be constructed out of whole cloth--an anti-2A'ers fantasy. Instapundit
 
I'm not against more training either, provided it is readily available. Having people carry firearms who are clueless on how to operate them is pretty dangerous in and of itself.

It does absolutely nothing, however, if the person taking the training doesn't have the mindset of actually wanting to learn and apply what they've learned into actual safety habits when actually handling firearms later on, in real life, outside of the "classroom". I am against mandatory training for this reason (as well as the fact that it is clearly a restriction on a right!) it does jack if the person being forced to take it isn't "into" it. I know this because I've had loaded guns pointed at me by people who probably just passed a BFS course no less than a year before they muzzle swept me. [thinking]

-Mike
 
Don't know if anyone has mentioned this (didn't have time to scan the whole thread), but Instapundit (great blog btw) has an interesting comment up about this. One of his readers observed that he did not recognize any state with the carry regs and fees she described. He posted a comment simply asking what state this was. His comment was first marked for moderation, then deleted. This whole article may be constructed out of whole cloth--an anti-2A'ers fantasy. Instapundit
Well, that would make sense, but as above, I can believe there are people this useless out there as well... Most of them are too scared of guns or themselves to own one though, so they self-select out.
 
Considering I think the entire thing is a fabrication, it's probably not likely to get very far.

Not to mention... seriously? Even though she is a stupid bitch, even if she is actually doing this... she still doesn't deserve to be harrassed by police for doing something lawful, even if it is terminally stupid.

-Mike

It may very well be fabricated. The facts of her piece do not match ccw permits in her state of washington, etc.

The PJ Tatler » Ms. Magazine?s ?My Month with a Gun? Story Shooting Blanks?


And no one should bother posting comments. It the do not fit their agenda, they WILL remove them. Don't waste your time.
 
Reading this woman's article, you really have to wonder if someone can really be this broken, yet still function in life? Then you realize the entire progressive societal structure is designed to encourage (force) people into being this way and thus subservient and dependent on the maternal state.

IMHO hard core antis are probably the most mentally defective people of all the so called "progressives". They can't fight their way through a paper bag on nearly anything. If they weren't so mentally inept and incapable they wouldn't be antis. The only reason they have any power at all is because they've co-opted themselves with a bunch of big authoritarian socialists who care little about guns but everything about taking power away from the people. If both major political parties dumped gun control the antis would be put out of business overnight- there aren't enough people who are that stupid where they could go grassroots on their own anymore.

-Mike
 
It may very well be fabricated. The facts of her piece do not match ccw permits in her state of washington, etc.

The PJ Tatler » Ms. Magazine?s ?My Month with a Gun? Story Shooting Blanks?

This doesn't surprise me, hard core antis operate on a pattern of lies, omission of critical facts, hyperbole, etc, in their "argument". It's all part of the playbook.... they try to write the narrative and get joe average (who may not know anything about guns) to fall for it.


And no one should bother posting comments. It the do not fit their agenda, they WILL remove them. Don't waste your time.

I agree with this, anything worthwhile will just get purged. It's as pointless as trying to trash a facebook page or a typical newspaper/cable news comment page, etc. Besides, nobody reads that shit. I read the article (skimming it) in about 30 seconds and closed the tab. Even if they kept all the comments 90% of the people reading that article will do exactly what I did, rather than potentially risk having their brain numbed by most of the comments.... this generally applies whether its guns, politics, or other news articles. Most people are stupid- and out of the realm of people who post article comments, its a safe bet that about 75% of the people posting comments will be dumber than a sack of hammers and dead, wet mice .

-Mike
 
Whatever her motivation here is (she never says in the article) you can be sure the conclusion is already written. So far it appears to be "Look how easy it was for me to buy a gun and endanger kids at Starbucks".




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What she should be doing is thanking her lucky stars that she lives in a country where she has the right to make a complete ass of herself and endanger a whole Starbucks while trying to take away that right.

God bless America
 
Quite the scientific experiment she has going here, trying proving that the world is full of irresponsible people and it is our governments job to baby proof our lives for us. She certainly lends herself well to it.

I don't really get what she is trying to prove? any idiot can carry a gun? what about the background check you submitted to? Finger prints? maybe you can still be an idiot and do it (legally) but not a criminal idiot.
And i'm pretty sure that most people who make the decision to daily carry don't go into it being PURPOSELY ignorant in all aspects of guns and their responsible ownership.

This is like trying to prove that we should eradicate all pit bulls by going and buying one without ever owning a dog or looking into how to care for one or train it, then taking it out to your neighborhood play ground and hoping it will bite some kid.

I mean really, what a useless, irresponsible, and potentially dangerous thing to be doing.
If the gun is loaded and she doesn't know what she is doing, she could kill someone.
If it is unloaded and she is just carrying it "for the experience", what if she gets mugged? Good job, you literally just handed a criminal a weapon.

Most of the responses are from people who think thing through with about as much care as she did. I like this one in particular:
"Kevin Dunbar says: June 12, 2013 at 8:43 pm
You are of course missing the point. The point is that with no training she could buy a gun and carry it. People buy guns for protection but if you own a gun it actually increases the likelihood that you or someone in your family will be killed. Less than 20% of people are shot by strangers. Fully 80% are killed by family members or friends."

[rofl]80% of people are killed by family members. Well crap, its been nice knowing you all, with those odds, my time must be about up.
 
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