Heard this on the news during my drive home. I too was stumped by the cops lack of logic.
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Dick,
Is a closet a locked container per:
Chapter 140 Section 131L. (a) It shall be unlawful to store or keep any firearm, rifle or shotgun including, but not limited to, large capacity weapons, or machine gun in any place unless such weapon is secured in a locked container or equipped with a tamper-resistant mechanical lock or other safety device, properly engaged so as to render such weapon inoperable by any person other than the owner or other lawfully authorized user. For purposes of this section, such weapon shall not be deemed stored or kept if carried by or under the control of the owner or other lawfully authorized user.
I am a safe guy so I don't care but is has been asked on here pretty regularly and it would be good to know if I ever found myself in an away from home situation that I needed to store the firearm without a safe or trigger lock available.
I wonder how many times the neighbors watched him move long guns or pistol boxes from his house-to-his-car trunk...from his car trunk-to-his-house...everytime he went to the gun range?
Or how often his kid told his buddies;"you should see my dads bitchin' AR-15"
I move my guns in and out like I'm dumping bodies or trafficing coke.
These times require stealth ownership, IMHO
~Matt
Easy, the Second Amendment is a PRIVILEGE in MA, not a right. They can do whatever the hell they want.
A Glock box with a padlock through the plastic holes sitting in a cooler in a back yard was determined by the courts to be a secure container as the law is written... if the description of a vault is anything close to our conception of a vault (rather than a closet), then he should have been left alone.
Let's hear about Comm2a, one of our esteemed attorneys, and GOAL jumping up and down on this police chief! We used to always hear about LARGO defending gun rights in MA, but I haven't heard anything about them in a long time.
yeah, i dont know how they do that. i never had a gun stolen. (knock on wood) I am guessing the guy jsut gave them the serial numbers, and the cops will check to see if he actually bought them. If he didnt, and they werent legal, he just wouldn't talk.
if they steal illegal drugs out of your car, do you call the cops?
i think you do have to report it. what if someone gets shot with your gun? and you never reported it stolen? you are in big trouble.
they dont just take your license away. This guys license was probably revoked till the investigation is over. They cant take your gun license away because someone broke into your house. (assuming you werent braking any laws)
=Kamal Jain;1703434]Great — two blocks from my house.
I have always wondered what happened to "Innocent until proven guilty".
I wonder how many times the neighbors watched him move long guns or pistol boxes from his house-to-his-car trunk...from his car trunk-to-his-house...everytime he went to the gun range?
Hey, if you choose to live in an antigun state, and put lots of $ into a highly controversial type and number of guns, your indiscetion and lack of concern about your freedom/risk is quite likely to bite you in the butt. Why stay there, giving tax money to your enemies, hmm? Why have more than a minimal battery there? Why aint anything else cached elsewhere, or stored in another state.
Two words: Attached garage.
Hey, how about if you:
a) learn to spell
b) not blame the gun owner like the police are doing
c) not make assumptions about people's lives and...
d) stfu
hmm?
they dont just take your license away. This guys license was probably revoked till the investigation is over. They cant take your gun license away because someone broke into your house. (assuming you werent braking any laws)
The Lowell Scum, I mean Sun, Reported that he had built a vault in his cellar. I prefer to call that a secure room. That has already been decided to meet the standards of MGL Chap 140. The idea of the screwed up law was not to prevent theft, But to prevent access to the firearms by some one "Lawfully" in the home.
MGL does not mention the word "safe", only 'secure container'.
theres just not enough info available yet... why are they going after the homeowner instead of the CRIMINALS who actually stole the guns?
A: are they investigating him and revoking his license because the superintendant is a pompus ass?
B: or is it because his idea of "home made vault" is some plywood and a master lock?
just not enough info, hopefully we will find out more to this story
Chapter 140 Section 131L. (a) It shall be unlawful to store or keep any firearm, rifle or shotgun including, but not limited to, large capacity weapons, or machine gun in any place unless such weapon is secured in a locked container or equipped with a tamper-resistant mechanical lock or other safety device, properly engaged so as to render such weapon inoperable by any person other than the owner or other lawfully authorized user.
FWIW: I was talking with a Chief of Police for a Ma. town this past Summer and he said that he would consider firearms stored in a closet with a locked "solid" door to be a to be properly stored in a locked container. It's just like the whole suitable person thing only with what I would consider to be a little more leeway as far as what the locked container can be.
serial numbers. thats how you trace the gun. If a family member passed it down to him, then the gun might be under his family members name, but it is still a legal gun.How are they going to prove that he bought them? What if they were family guns that he got...what if he isn't from Lowell and he moved to MA with them?
. . . as one OPTION. A gun lock suffices per MGL.
Hey, if you choose to live in an antigun state, and put lots of $ into a highly controversial type and number of guns, your indiscetion and lack of concern about your freedom/risk is quite likely to bite you in the butt. Why stay there, giving tax money to your enemies, hmm? Why have more than a minimal battery there? Why aint anything else cached elsewhere, or stored in another state.