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You all in MA so screwed: Does not look good for gun owners in MA.

I said this on youtube post to someone saying that people should move to gun friendly States....Don't be so comfortable. One county at a time and then one State at a time they're winning. It won't do anyone any good to live in Tennessee if it's surrounded by recently fallen neighbors. They'll demand regulations. I really fear that in less than 30 years we'll be just like the UK.
 
I can remember as a young man that a Demoncrat wouldn't stand a snowballs chance in hell in an election in NH. NOW Mass holes are flooding to southern NH and then voting for the Dems. Won't be too much longer I fear.
 
Ely said:
You all in MA so screwed: Does not look good for gun owners in MA.
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Thanks for your support, whoever the f*** you are and wherever the f*** you live.

But you must be a Millenial, because who the hell else would be so gutless and fearful they don’t post where they live in their profile, then start a thread like this?

STFU and go clean your Glock.
 
lucky-one said:
I can remember as a young man that a Demoncrat wouldn't stand a snowballs chance in hell in an election in NH. NOW Mass holes are flooding to southern NH and then voting for the Dems. Won't be too much longer I fear.
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Not that.

A lot of the tip came from (surprise!) urban centers. Okay, these are more southern than Franconia, but if you look you see a lot of the refuges of MA-escapees DON'T vote for dems. The FSA does. The Dems are encouraging more FSA in said urban centers.

Included: the college towns. The bluest place in New Hampshire: Hanover/Lebanon.

And speaking of Franconia (my soon-to-be neighborhood): land of New Yawk cutie-pies who move in for the views. Bring their OWN views with them. Been happening since before Bette Davis took up residence.
 
I have property in NH.
Wonder if I should try to become a resident there as opposed to MA.

I must say that when I drive across the state border I always think...man, some guys still think that this imaginary line will protect them...think again.
 
lucky-one said:
I can remember as a young man that a Demoncrat wouldn't stand a snowballs chance in hell in an election in NH. NOW Mass holes are flooding to southern NH and then voting for the Dems. Won't be too much longer I fear.
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LOL, Im not posting this for the 5th time today. Do some research as to which parts of NH tend to most often vote Republican. Then think about where MA people tend to end up when they move to NH. (Hint: they dont look out their window and see Quebec) Then get back to us.
Your problems in NH are NH problems and to a lesser extent VT problems. MA is third on that list, tops.
 
She may still be elected in Georgia.

Stacey Abrams wants to confiscate guns. Someone in the media finally asked her about it

Just two years ago, as a state lawmaker, Abrams co-sponsored House Bill 731, legislation that makes the Clinton-era assault weapons ban seem timid in comparison. And when pushed by CNN's Jake Tapper to explain whether she supports gun confiscation, Abrams dodged.

“In the state of Georgia, you introduce legislation to start conversations,” Abrams said. “I am happy to work with the legislature to figure out how we make an assault weapons ban work.”

The "conversation" in this case was short. The Abrams bill wasn’t even referred to committee, perhaps because it would have enforced some of the strictest gun regulation in the nation. Law-abiding citizens one day, if HB731 had passed, many gun owners would be at risk of becoming felons the next.

Abrams would have given Georgia residents 90 days and two options: Destroy their newly illegal guns themselves or “surrender such assault weapon or large capacity magazine to the Georgia Bureau of Investigation.” Doing otherwise wouldn’t be wise.

The Abrams bill didn’t just make a laundry list of ammunition, magazines, and firearms illegal. It would have changed the law “to require seizure of such by the Georgia Bureau of Investigation.” In other words, it would have mandated confiscation, a fact that Tapper didn’t let Abrams get away from on CNN.

“Well, just to be clear, you were one of six co-sponsors of this bill, House Bill 731, introduced Jan. 11, 2016, not that long ago," Tapper responded. "Your co-sponsor told reporters the law — quote — 'would require gun owners of these particular models to turn their guns in.’”

“And, again, my point is this: The legislation introduced was the beginning of a conversation," Abrams shot back. "I am absolutely certain that, were we to pass this in Georgia, we would have a conversation about grandfathering in, about whether or not people would turn their guns in, whether there would be buybacks. There are a number of approaches to take to accomplish this goal.”

The goal was much more than a simple assault weapons ban, though. The legislation didn’t just ban scary-looking guns like AR-15 and AK-47-style rifles. It also expanded the definition of assault weapon to include certain semiautomatic shotguns and semiautomatic pistols.
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Sevenrats said:
I said this on youtube post to someone saying that people should move to gun friendly States....Don't be so comfortable. One county at a time and then one State at a time they're winning. It won't do anyone any good to live in Tennessee if it's surrounded by recently fallen neighbors. They'll demand regulations. I really fear that in less than 30 years we'll be just like the UK.
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More and more people are buying guns and getting permits (if needed). Anyone notice how many stories you hear now about people defending themselves with guns? I think that's partly cause so many more people are now carrying.

This is how you win - ordinary people are responding to the shootings by buying guns and carrying them. Leftist politicians and their media propoganda outlets are calling for gun control, but the people aren't listening, and ultimately it's the people who will win.
 
Sevenrats said:
I said this on youtube post to someone saying that people should move to gun friendly States....Don't be so comfortable. One county at a time and then one State at a time they're winning. It won't do anyone any good to live in Tennessee if it's surrounded by recently fallen neighbors. They'll demand regulations. I really fear that in less than 30 years we'll be just like the UK.
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It will be the peoples fault
 
drgrant said:
That's because "the right" is still larded up with a lot of RINOS, neocons, and BT'ing social conservatives that all need to be flushed down the toilet... nobody under 50 or so wants to vote for any of those frauds anymore unless they have to. (and some of my older conservative friends too, are sick of many of them. ) There's clearly a generational split/ paradigm shift amongst non-moonbats, and nobody really wants to talk about it. Trump is actually evidence of this political shift nationally, otherwise he would have never been nominated. Trump being nominated is partially a product of conservative angst. The old GOP hacks are still clinging to garbage while the younger contingent is trying to convert the otherwise dying GOP into something meaningful as an inclusive refuge for non-moonbats.

We almost got this with the tea party movement a little bit, but standard jingogarbageservatives came along and pissed in that well. A lot of people could get behind "fiscal conservatism and f*** everything
else" and it almost happened. Ironically that ended up being a sidecar message on Trump's platform... (eg, focus on jobs and economy, and reduction of taxation etc).



NRA never had problem with money, the real problem with gun activism is not the now nearly worthless NRA, its about not getting a lot of grassroot support. A lot of people "sit on their ass" and don't vote or
apply pressure on gun issues at a local ground level, because there's no guidance coming from anywhere. The NRA is not good at organizing this stuff outside of a few places. We need a new brand of activism that goes beyond tired fearmongering BS that the NRA pulls out every election cycle. People who are intelligent see that bullshit and call it out for what it is, and then it gets ignored. While moonbats were sulking around trying to do sneaky shit like close gun ranges etc, and villify gun culture, the NRA ran 9000 bulletins about the UN gun ban that nobody cared about that the US never ratified. The NRA is running around with a fire extinguisher discharging it on things that aren't burning trying to gin up drama and attention in the wrong place, etc. It's also clear that they never want to fix anything either, lest the checks stop coming in...



If a lot of the GOP candidates weren't absolute dog shit, that wouldn't likely be the case, at least with the "kids". Young non-moonbats literally have nobody to vote for in most cases. So you know what they do? They get pissed off and don't vote. I ran into the same problem growing up, I literally didn't start voting until I owned guns in my 20s, because looking outward I just saw two groups of a**h***s that largely didnt respect any of my interests as a citizen.

-Mike
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Traditional Conservatives aren't ever going to be able to win against progressives, because the central paradigm is to keep things the way they are. Whatever changes progressives make get left in place, so the ratchet goes left. Conservatives also have trouble organizing because we all just want to be left alone. If a new movement is going to form on the right to actually win, it must be something other than conservative, it must have a vision to fight for rather than just against

Trump did part of this with MAGA, but we need more
 
browncoat said:
Traditional Conservatives aren't ever going to be able to win against progressives, because the central paradigm is to keep things the way they are. Whatever changes progressives make get left in place, so the ratchet goes left. Conservatives also have trouble organizing because we all just want to be left alone. If a new movement is going to form on the right to actually win, it must be something other than conservative, it must have a vision to fight for rather than just against

Trump did part of this with MAGA, but we need more
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True, but Americans can't agree on facts, never mind how to solve them. Depending which channel on idiot box people are watching, depends how they see the current state of affairs. Add to that the massive immigration and tolerance for other views on life and you got 3rd world mentality, far from original ideals of liberty and justice. Popular view in US is not conservative nor in line with original American values. Those values have been drifting for over a hundred years now toward socialism and big hive mentality.

GOPs need to be dumped. A third party needs to emerge. There are values to fight for, but I don't see the will or leaders emerging to do so. May be it's not time yet.
 
headednorth said:
LOL, Im not posting this for the 5th time today. Do some research as to which parts of NH tend to most often vote Republican. Then think about where MA people tend to end up when they move to NH. (Hint: they dont look out their window and see Quebec) Then get back to us.
Your problems in NH are NH problems and to a lesser extent VT problems. MA is third on that list, tops.
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The bulk of population in NH is in the southern half of the state. It's where the libs are flocking to. Not everyone who moves to NH is doing so to own an AR. Libs move there to get away from the hell hole THEY created in Assachusetts, and bring their liberal mind set and votes with them. I'm elderly now and can tell you as I stated earlier back then Democrat was a dirty word, but they have no problem winning now. My girlfriend and I worked one of the voting prec. in Salem for the Trump presidential election and the things we saw at the voting places an hour before the polls closed was crazy, vans full of young people flocked into the place and I'm sure it took place at other precincts as well. This law of being able to register and vote on the same day is insane. I hope that what is happening in MA. CA. and now OR. never takes place in NH, but if it does it isn't going to surprise me.
 
lucky-one said:
The bulk of population in NH is in the southern half of the state. It's where the libs are flocking to. Not everyone who moves to NH is doing so to own an AR. Libs move there to get away from the hell hole THEY created in Assachusetts, and bring their liberal mind set and votes with them. I'm elderly now and can tell you as I stated earlier back then Democrat was a dirty word, but they have no problem winning now. My girlfriend and I worked one of the voting prec. in Salem for the Trump presidential election and the things we saw at the voting places an hour before the polls closed was crazy, vans full of young people flocked into the place and I'm sure it took place at other precincts as well. This law of being able to register and vote on the same day is insane. I hope that what is happening in MA. CA. and now OR. never takes place in NH, but if it does it isn't going to surprise me.
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I can tell you the average lib in MA thinks NH is a redneck backwater hillbilly state. I would think that "flocking" is a bit too strong of a word. I agree 100% that liberals vote for policies that turn their states into hellholes and they move away without connecting those dots. There are also conservatives and libertarians moving to NH to get away from that shit. They tend to settle in the far southern part of NH, which is a big part of why the southern part of NH is as red as it is. If MA transplants were turning NH blue, the border towns would all be solid blue, but theyre not. Theyre not even kind of blueish. Theyre the reddest part of your state.

I think that any NH resident putting all the blame of their state turning blue on MA transplants is either misinformed or theyre kidding themselves. NH is turning blue for the same reason any other stete is turning blue, schools, media, political correctness. In that order...
 
headednorth said:
There are also conservatives and libertarians moving to NH to get away from that shit. They tend to settle in the far southern part of NH, which is a big part of why the southern part of NH is as red as it is. If MA transplants were turning NH blue, the border towns would all be solid blue, but theyre not. Theyre not even kind of blueish. Theyre the reddest part of your state.
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I looked at the election results up our way. On one pole, there's Monroe: 64% for Sununu. On the other, there's Franconia: 35%. Leaning toward Monroe are Lisbon (55%) and Littleton (54%). Leaning toward Franconia are Sugar Hill (37%) and Bethlehem (41%). Anyone who knows the area would not in the least be surprised by these numbers.

Update: Easton's worse: 30%

Grafton county-wide (surprise!) Hanover's in the toilet: 17%
 
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headednorth said:
I can tell you the average lib in MA thinks NH is a redneck backwater hillbilly state. I would think that "flocking" is a bit too strong of a word. I agree 100% that liberals vote for policies that turn their states into hellholes and they move away without connecting those dots. There are also conservatives and libertarians moving to NH to get away from that shit. They tend to settle in the far southern part of NH, which is a big part of why the southern part of NH is as red as it is. If MA transplants were turning NH blue, the border towns would all be solid blue, but theyre not. Theyre not even kind of blueish. Theyre the reddest part of your state.

I think that any NH resident putting all the blame of their state turning blue on MA transplants is either misinformed or theyre kidding themselves. NH is turning blue for the same reason any other stete is turning blue, schools, media, political correctness. In that order...
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Hmm, that makes sense, because many Ma**h***s who move to NH do so cause they’re upper middle class and work in Mass in high tech or whatever. ie they’re probably Republicans.
 
lucky-one said:
I can remember as a young man that a Demoncrat wouldn't stand a snowballs chance in hell in an election in NH. NOW Mass holes are flooding to southern NH and then voting for the Dems. Won't be too much longer I fear.
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It's not Ma**h***s that are doing this to NH. It is a cancer spreading from cities everywhere, which are where illegals are welcomed with open arms and liberal indoctrination has been going on for many decades. In mAss, many nice bedroom towns actually voted for Deihl, but Chief Spreading Bull wins in a landslide. Look at the election theft ongoing right now on Broward County. This is part of the problem in NH. It's purple so worth stealing for those few votes.
 
Qwikdraw45 said:
It is running, and is pointless. Where would anyone go? Do you think that if even 1,000 people relocate out west it will help? It won't help in AZ, TX, CO, WY (F&G guy fired for posting about hunting) or Montana. Too many libs from CA and elsewhere.
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It's not running. It's a tactical retreat. It's only running if you move and then hunker down and don't get involved. But if you move and then get involved with local gun rights groups, and sharing the horror story that is living in MA, then you are acting to reinforce a safe area.

This is the election result map. Looks like plenty of America still exists.

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The Progressive libs are organized and fanatical, their ideology is a religion to them. They firmly believe they are the righteous ones and we are evil incarnate. White conservative gun owners are their mortal enemies and they will never stop until either they eliminate us or we eliminate them. There is no reasoning nor discussion w/them.
 
garandman said:
Thanks for your support, whoever the f*** you are and wherever the f*** you live.

But you must be a Millenial, because who the hell else would be so gutless and fearful they don’t post where they live in their profile, then start a thread like this?

STFU and go clean your Glock.
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why do you keep defending Ma. and Ma**h***s? You know this State is irredeemable, deep blue and will never respect our rights. The leftists hate us with a passion and the Pols don't even respect the will of the people. This is a corrupt one party State populated by clueless libs who think Liawatha and her predecessor drunken Teddy the murderer are wonderful Pols representing the poor. I am stuck here unless my daughter moves but I sure as hell don't defend this poor excuse for a State in the USA.
 
rwl1955 said:
The Progressive libs are organized and fanatical, their ideology is a religion to them. They firmly believe they are the righteous ones and we are evil incarnate. White conservative gun owners are their mortal enemies and they will never stop until either they eliminate us or we eliminate them. There is no reasoning nor discussion w/them.
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The argument I'm about to make may not be popular on this site among everyone here, but I'm going to make it anyway because it just really needs to be said.

You are 100% correct. Progressivism IS a religion. You might say it is the ultimate ANTI-CHRISTIAN religion. Why? Because it offers people the flexibility to do and say whatever they want without consequence. ANYTHING a person wants to believe can be and is justified, because ultimately in the mind of the progressive THERE ULTIMATELY ARE NO CONSEQUENCES FOR ANYONE'S ACTIONS. Period. Because in the minds of most of them there is no afterlife, and no moral code that they are bound to live by.

There is really only one way to combat this. Once again, I understand this may in fact be a VERY controversial statement to make on this site because it is not necessarily a Christian website but a pro-gun one. No-one is more pro-gun than me, but the solution this problem MUST directly oppose progressivism.

The only direct opposition to progressivism is Christianity. Without a vigorous Christian revival in this country we're truly lost. I'm not forcing my religion on anyone. I'm stating a very simple truth.

I'm getting into the habit of asking everyone I talk to whether or not they believe people are basically good. The person's answer tells me instantly whether or not they are a progressive. Think about it. If people are basically good (meaning given the choice, they generally do the thing that's in the self-interest of others and NOT themselves) and the government is made up of people, then we have nothing to fear from empowering the government. If however people are basically NOT good as true Christians believe i.e. they are all sinners, and only God is free of sin then God, not government is where people MUST place their trust.

Think about it, and flame away if you must...
 
Whutmeworry said:
The argument I'm about to make may not be popular on this site among everyone here, but I'm going to make it anyway because it just really needs to be said.

You are 100% correct. Progressivism IS a religion. You might say it is the ultimate ANTI-CHRISTIAN religion. Why? Because it offers people the flexibility to do and say whatever they want without consequence. ANYTHING a person wants to believe can be and is justified, because ultimately in the mind of the progressive THERE ULTIMATELY ARE NO CONSEQUENCES FOR ANYONE'S ACTIONS. Period. Because in the minds of most of them there is no afterlife, and no moral code that they are bound to live by.

There is really only one way to combat this. Once again, I understand this may in fact be a VERY controversial statement to make on this site because it is not necessarily a Christian website but a pro-gun one. No-one is more pro-gun than me, but the solution this problem MUST directly oppose progressivism.

The only direct opposition to progressivism is Christianity. Without a vigorous Christian revival in this country we're truly lost. I'm not forcing my religion on anyone. I'm stating a very simple truth.

I'm getting into the habit of asking everyone I talk to whether or not they believe people are basically good. The person's answer tells me instantly whether or not they are a progressive. Think about it. If people are basically good (meaning given the choice, they generally do the thing that's in the self-interest of others and NOT themselves) and the government is made up of people, then we have nothing to fear from empowering the government. If however people are basically NOT good as true Christians believe i.e. they are all sinners, and only God is free of sin then God, not government is where people MUST place their trust.

Think about it, and flame away if you must...
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not gonna happen, to many competing ideology's and kids are being brainwashed in School and College to obey the Nanny State. Catholic Church is corrupted by the pedophile scandal and still won't except the fact there to many gay/pedophile Priests in the church. Unless they finally allow women to be Priests and Priests to marry the faith will die off in the Western World. Libs have demonized Christianity for their anti-abortion, anti-gay teachings. I attended Catholic school for 10 yrs, the schools taught me well and no regrets but this is a different day and time. Discipline is frowned on and the average Millennial is to self absorbed to listen.
 

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