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Well of course he wasn't giving up he had a BBQ to get to.
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Wow, this ex-cop has really gone crazy
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Boghog1
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that video must be on youtube by now why don't you put it up to back your assertion.
namedpipes
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By burning him out they (the police) created a martyr.
They shoulda coulda simply kept him in there. If they were sure enough he had no hostages that they felt comfortable with the fire approach, they could have waited him out. He either gets hungry and surrenders or kills himself. IF he surrenders, the insanity becomes evident in the trial and much of the damage the LAPD did to itself is reversed.
They shoulda coulda simply kept him in there. If they were sure enough he had no hostages that they felt comfortable with the fire approach, they could have waited him out. He either gets hungry and surrenders or kills himself. IF he surrenders, the insanity becomes evident in the trial and much of the damage the LAPD did to itself is reversed.
Not to OT too much, but I had an ex that had something like that. It wasn't for beating people with though.Is it correct that "burners" is police slang for tear gas canisters because they're known to start fires?
Sort of like "wood shampoo":
ochmude
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Credentials, yes. It's possible he had a dupe badge, however. Not sure if LAPD does that, though.
EDIT: It occurs to me that it might sound to some of the more conspiratorially minded folks around here that I'm trying to defend some sort of cover up. I'm honestly not, just trying to add to the discussion.
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Considering the huge amount of press Dorner got, I wonder if future nuts jobs will be inspired to shoot cops instead of regular citizens. Probably not since they are mostly cowards.
They aren't.
CNN keeps showing a video with gunshots going off at the cabin, but no one taking cover, and milling around in what appears to be a clear shooting lane.
CNN is also showing a video of the cabin burning with audio saying that they're burning it down.
Boghog1
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Sounds like they are trying to get the story straight
Getting their "ducks in a row".
MetalgodZ
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In God We Trust
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Tear gas and smoke grenades burn pretty hot and can start fires. The smoke is of course caused by burning chemicals inside the grenade. After they burn out, they are too hot to pick up bare handed for a while. Flashbangs will not cause fires unless they land in a puddle of gasoline or something.
not true, they most certainly will start a fire if they land on anything like carpet, furniture etc.
Christopher Dorner Manhunt: Inside the Shootout Near Cabin in Big Bear Mountains | Video - ABC News
I didn't see this dash cam style video on you tube. It's from a local LA station who was with the cops for the past week for the search. If it goes on You tube, they'll file a copyright claim and boot it. That the downside of youtube. There are neutral people who saw parts of the chase, etc. I feel comfortable that we've heard pretty much what happened. The reporting here I think was much better than the CT shooting which was terrible.
There was a basement on the cabin from what I've heard. A license in a wallet could survive in a basement. The leather wallet will protect it very well, I've seen fires before where things protected somewhat were identifiable.
ochmude
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That doesn't sound like any sort of slang for tear gas that burns. It sounds like they are speaking very literally and referring to actual pyro and incendiary devices.
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Plus someone posted the ground view of the cabin here (an old ground view photo). There was a large propane tank right next to the cabin. It's a cabin too, so who knows what's inside i.e. lighter fluid, and other flammable things. Carpet could be older and flammable, etc. I don't know if it's certain those devices would cause a fire but it is at least very possible.
I am 100% certain flashbangs cause fires.
The 2 things I'm taking away from the video.
1. I'm still laughing about the "isolated" cabin, looks like its mid culdesac
2. And I'm surprised to see mini 14s as patrol rifles, and those like 10 rd mags.
1. I'm still laughing about the "isolated" cabin, looks like its mid culdesac
2. And I'm surprised to see mini 14s as patrol rifles, and those like 10 rd mags.
At this point it doesn't matter in "memetic" terms what they did to him in that cabin. His actions resulted in the poisoning of his own well. He could have been incapacitated in there and they burned him alive- nobody will care, because the MSM has already successfully painted him as a full retard lunatic.
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PS, I frankly dont care if they threw flashbangs, incendiary grenades, or hit the cabin with a friggon JDAM, that guy had it coming to him.
xtry51
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Well hooray police state
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We should just get rid of trials altogether and just let police deal with all criminals that way. The constitution is really outdated anyway.
So if someone commits murder due process doesn't apply? Or does it only apply when a "protected class," like a cop or cops daughter is killed?
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oh, those pesky trials and needing stuff like evidence and shit.
xtry is right... who needs the constitution anyway, it's just paper.
I didn't take it that way. I was honestly curious. Thanks for the clarification though.
Using my galaxy s2 via tapatalk, because I am too lazy to find a computer
there are 2 classes of tactical grenades - hot and cold. The hot one's use incineration to distribute the chemicals, the cold ones do not. The hot grenades are known to cause fires, and are sometimes used by SWAT to do so.
These are different from flash bangs which use the incineration of magnesium powder and other materials to create a blinding flash.
if someone is ACTIVELY commiting murder, then DUE PROCESS starts with stopping the ONGOING ACT OF MURDER.
If you think this guy was short-changed because he didnt get his day in court, maybe he should have stopped shooting at everyone long enough for them mail him a summons ? Give me a friggon break.
If you think this guy was short-changed because he didnt get his day in court, maybe he should have stopped shooting at everyone long enough for them mail him a summons ? Give me a friggon break.
Things like this must excite you then...
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For those reading, OIFer's post, ironically enough, validates what I said earlier... These people left like piles of festering shit outside their compund (literally!) so everyone thought they were a**h***s. So when the cops bombed them and burned down 65 houses in the process, most people didn't care, no matter how absurd the police's actions were. It cost the city a few million bucks, BFD.
Same thing will happen with Dorner, except that nobody will barely remember the guy, well, at least until the next guy snaps at LAPD.
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