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And if that were true re training hours and safety why do they so often make these mistakes when us "average citizens" almost never do? Since there are so few highly trained officers nationwide relative to is incompetent citizens, why is it that THEY seem to have more ND's and accidental shootings resulting in death? And seriously, when was the last time a citizen left his gun in a recycle bin, restaurant bathroom, or left his rifle on the roof of his car?Her comment is probably something you could have quoted out of the glock case, how did it go? "Police have hundreds of hours of training with their firearms which makes them safer than the average citizen"...
Her comment is probably something you could have quoted out of the glock case, how did it go? "Police have hundreds of hours of training with their firearms which makes them safer than the average citizen"...
As was recently discussed, the same DA indicted a shooter for improper storage in Harvard who shot himself. I'm sure with their credibility on the line they will also charge the cop similarly.
The difference in consequences, incentives and penalties in the police vs. civilian worlds might account for some of it.why is it that THEY seem to have more ND's and accidental shootings resulting in death? And seriously, when was the last time a citizen left his gun in a recycle bin, restaurant bathroom, or left his rifle on the roof of his car?
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...GDNMQFgglMAA&usg=AOvVaw3XU9ORPFknyN3YYV4E21uRwhen did that happen ??? what happened here ???
does anyone have a link to the thread ?
thanks
Is violating the storage law a felony and results in being a PP?
And for that matter, does the inability to obtain a LTC prevent an on duty officer from carrying?
Only if you are convicted. If you are a routine, under the radar case, and there are not other reasons the system wants to get you (the Fleury effect) chances are you will get a CWOF which, although it presents suitability issues, allows you to move to another state with no loss of rights.Is violating the storage law a felony and results in being a PP?
So if you're a lazy jackass that doesn't give a shit because "thin blue line" you're more likely to do stupid shit like leave a gun on a toilet paper dispenser in a public bathroom, accidentally drop your gun in the recycle bin when disposing of an empty beer, or shoot a woman walking her dog after legal hunting hours because you thought her dog's tail was a deer.The difference in consequences, incentives and penalties in the police vs. civilian worlds might account for some of it.
Whatever happened to "Equal protection under the law"?I actually think the guy should get a slap on the wrist but only if that applies equally to you and I. Since you and I would have to take the pipe in this situation he too should take the pipe.
These safe storage laws carry excessive penalties for “crimes” where no one was hurt.
Whatever happened to "Equal protection under the law"?Sometimes they get away with those sorts of things, yes.
Whatever happened to "Equal protection under the law"?So, is he in jail right now?
As a general principle of law, one cannot cite treatment given to others in similar situations as it is considered irrelevant.
DAs don't look at LE as members of their community. They look at them as the muscle of the government. They have no incentive to prosecute.The difference in consequences, incentives and penalties in the police vs. civilian worlds might account for some of it.
Whatever happened to "Equal protection under the law"?
Whatever happened to "Equal protection under the law"?
Whatever happened to "Equal protection under the law"?
Now, let's be perfectly clear here. "Equal protection under the law" ALSO means (or at least SHOULD mean) that those who BREAK the law should be prosecuted equally, regardless of position or station, such that those the law is supposedly designed to protect are, in fact, protected by the law violated. The total disregard for this ideal is how we get email servers in bathroom cabinets and cops who execute (I mean accidentally shoot) dogs and people, and negligently (I mean accidentally) leave their firearms in a recycling bin at the curb.
This article is worth a read as it is an excellent example about how violations can be made up from thin air.
1. 2017 (renewal).
2. After the licensing officer did the paperwork. She called me and asked me if I could Email her a pic, that is was new policy.
... The licensing officer is awesome, she is very polite and cool.
3. The original LTC no restrictions was from Westford. But, in case it matters, before that I had a resident alien FID from Canton, I then moved to another town, then moved to Westford and became a citizen. The day after becoming a citizen I applied to get a class A. I received the class A from Westford, and several years later did the renewal in Westford.
This article is worth a read as it is an excellent example about how violations can be made up from thin air.
The EOPS has stated that a trunk is a locked case for the purpose of the safe storage law, but one of the charges is for an unloaded gun in the trunk.
Sooo, do you really need proper training to teach you to not lose your gun? Is there like a special section on that?If they really do receive that much training, then its laughable. You'd learn more gun safety in a video game.
Is violating the storage law a felony and results in being a PP?
And for that matter, does the inability to obtain a LTC prevent an on duty officer from carrying?
Yes, if convicted you are a PP for life.
Being a PP you cannot legally carry a firearm in the Commonwealth, even as a LEO.
Yes, if convicted you are a PP for life.
Being a PP you cannot legally carry a firearm in the Commonwealth, even as a LEO.
As a general principle of law, one cannot cite treatment given to others in similar situations as it is considered irrelevant.
I can’t see any way a federally prohibited person could legally carry a firearm? Anyone able to cite an example?
Do we know what the above cop was convicted of as a juvenile?