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We're all terrorists.
- Thread starter PaulD
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Jose
it offers PROTECTION from the very stupid laws of states like CA & MA.
the "said" troop just can't use them off the base if they do NOT meet state laws.
so if it was vermont.... it would be a non-issue, but states like MA, it would be.
i don't agree, but the DoD does actually help sometimes under U.S. Codes.
![[wink]](/xen/styles/default/xenforo/smilies.vb/002.gif "Wink [wink]")
Did you miss the part where your right to carry is stripped from you as you cross the gate?
It IS an issue, no matter where you go.
The f****** feds, including the Army, should be subservient to state law not the other way around.
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wolf223
Jose,
I know this. Painfully, I know that I can NOT carry on any "federal" base under title 10, u.s.c
the "state" bases are under speculation...
anywho, i (we) didn't make the rules. we just follow them.
*note* we all like guns anyway, except for Navy and chAir Force
![[rofl]](/xen/styles/default/xenforo/smilies.vb/013.gif "ROFL [rofl]")
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Jose
Chet, it's not personal. Don't take it that way. I used to be a part of the big DoD machine (Navy blue) till I saw it for what it was. Then I booked. I have no intention of encouraging my daughter to follow my footsteps.
![[thinking]](/xen/styles/default/xenforo/smilies.vb/010.gif "Thinking [thinking]")
this could be a new marketing scheme... "Terrorists dont eat bacon, are you a terrorist... Try our new smoked ham too!"
Terrorist shower regularly.... are you a terrorist?
I was stationed on Ft. Sill for a little while, didn't think anything of the title 10... but I know Ft. Hood had alot of people wishing.
Its hard to see the military become victims of gun violence on post... kind of had their hands tied on that one.
I was stationed on Ft. Sill for a little while, didn't think anything of the title 10... but I know Ft. Hood had alot of people wishing.
Its hard to see the military become victims of gun violence on post... kind of had their hands tied on that one.
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Jose
Have you read the 10th Amendment?
Have you read how the commerce clause has been abused and perverted until the fed has become unrecognizable to those who founded it?
I stand by what I said.
![[laugh]](/xen/styles/default/xenforo/smilies.vb/012.gif "Laugh [laugh]")
And you stand by the erroneous and irrelevant. Military control of military property has NOTHING to do with the Commerce Clause.
And the Supremacy Clause holds FEDERAL law trumps state law whenever the two are in conflict.
How's about some other misassociations:
Terrorists don't speak English. Are you a terrorist? (I'm sure that would get "immigrant rights" groups in a tissy)
Terrorists use Cell Phones. Are you a terrorist?
Terrorists use the Internet, Are you a terrorist?
Terrorists smoke, are you a terrorist?
Terrorists don't speak English. Are you a terrorist? (I'm sure that would get "immigrant rights" groups in a tissy)
Terrorists use Cell Phones. Are you a terrorist?
Terrorists use the Internet, Are you a terrorist?
Terrorists smoke, are you a terrorist?
Hard, yes, but it shouldn't be that way in the first place. Unarmed soldiers are easy targets.
Yeah, like when a state passes a law saying guns that don't cross state lines aren't under federal control, and ATF says "Oh well, federal law trumps state law."
It's being abused, twisted and manipulated.
I guess the sign is at Fort Benning. We have Clinton to thank for the policy disarming the soldiers on post.
A senior NCO and I almost got in trouble for shooting in a rifle-only part of the post with handguns in 1981. Mine wasn't registered on post, though it was supposed to be. The MP's made me come into the station and fill out the form, but that was all that happened. So I guess I was a terrorist - where da virgins at?
A senior NCO and I almost got in trouble for shooting in a rifle-only part of the post with handguns in 1981. Mine wasn't registered on post, though it was supposed to be. The MP's made me come into the station and fill out the form, but that was all that happened. So I guess I was a terrorist - where da virgins at?
What I find hilarious is that they don't want you to bring down the gun(s) when you register them on base. What's the point of a mandatory registration system (implying people can't be trusted) based on the honor system?!?
Inanity.
John C. Calhoun's "Nullification Theory?" Be serious - this is the 21st Century, not the 19th.
That theory was drivel when proffered and utterly "nullified" by the Civil War and subsequent events. By design and practice, the USCT is the arbiter of what is or is not Constitutional; not any individual state.
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Jose
If not nullification, then seccession.
The problem for you today is that the South holds the winning hand.
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Jose
If that breaks out again, you can bet your bottom dollar that I am skipping out of here for whatever independent republic forms. And my money is on Texas.Whereas you, Buckeye Boy, reside in the epicenter of the Confederacy; is that it?![[rolleyes]](/xen/styles/default/xenforo/smilies.vb/042.gif "Roll Eyes [rolleyes]")
A theory? Hardly. I'll give you Exhibit A: The REAL ID Act. Nullified by New Hampshire. Madison and Jefferson have both been quoted as believing that the individual states in the union have the obligation to protect their inhabitants from any draconian law that comes from the capital. So while you believe it's roots are "Calhounian" they're actually "Jeffersonian".
California is thumbing it's nose at the DEA over marijuana's scheduling. Montana and Tennessee are prepared to nullify all federal firearms manufacturing laws.
You really ought to visit Texas. It's not my favorite place in the world but that is definitely not true.
In addition, Texas has a rider in their constitution that allows them to go back to being an independent republic if they so choose.
SemiAutoSam
Banned
Correct FMPOV as they never "ceded" their lands like 99% of the other states did when they became a state within the US.
Hawaii also from my reading has the right to take back their ceded lands as these lands were stolen from the Hawaiian government in my understanding.
The 2nd (1879) California Constitution is also suspect as it came about around the same time the US was incorporated in Delaware. The first California Constitution was adopted in 1849 some major differences in the ratification of those two Constitutions.
Hawaii also from my reading has the right to take back their ceded lands as these lands were stolen from the Hawaiian government in my understanding.
The 2nd (1879) California Constitution is also suspect as it came about around the same time the US was incorporated in Delaware. The first California Constitution was adopted in 1849 some major differences in the ratification of those two Constitutions.
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Jose
Awesome. A target rich envorinment.
You really ought to get a reality check. Allow me:
http://www.snopes.com/history/american/texas.asp
Take SAS with you......
