Terrorist Attack in Paris

[loneranger]

Kinda surprised they sent RAID, and not the GIGN. Outcome is the same anyway. I would've bet that those scumbags would never see handcuffs.

Was a "shelter in place" order given? Was less (as in more proportionate) manpower used? I am searching for a comparison of government/police responses in the hours after the Boston and Paris terrorist attacks.

 

[Waher]

WARNING if you are squeamish about death

Uncut video with slow mo.

WARNING if you are squeamish about death

I assume the police were worried he was charging with a bomb vest and made sure he was good and dead.

 

[GM-GUY]

Also a good teaching moment, he was being hit (at least by several rounds) before he made the dash. When up against a BG, remember this, it's not 1 and done.

 

[Vagrant]

Dude got rekt. I was more squeamish about the cross fire as the guy rushed out.

 

[M1911]

Dude got rekt. I was more squeamish about the cross fire as the guy rushed out.

I think that at least one of the cops may have been hit in the leg by a ricochet off the ground.

 

[frenchman]

They dropped him like a bad habit. And even without shooting up a boat or something.

 

[JuergenG]

They dropped him like a bad habit.

And rightly so!

 

[pdm]

#jesuischarlesmartel

 

[sieveboy]

now that's what I call a "hail of gunfire"

 

[PineTar]

Developing: French law enforcement officers have been told to erase their social media presence and to carry their weapons at all times because terror sleeper cells have been activated over the last 24 hours in the country, a French police source who attended a briefing Saturday told CNN terror analyst Samuel Laurent.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/10/europe/charlie-hebdo-paris-shooting/

 

[SteelShooter]

Developing: French law enforcement officers have been told to erase their social media presence and to carry their weapons at all times because terror sleeper cells have been activated over the last 24 hours in the country, a French police source who attended a briefing Saturday told CNN terror analyst Samuel Laurent.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/10/europe/charlie-hebdo-paris-shooting/

From the article

The surveillance of his brother Cherif terminated at the end of 2013 when his phone calls suggested he had disengaged with violent extremism and was focused on counterfeiting clothing and shoes.

So other crimes are ok, they couldn't have put him in jail for this stuff?

 

[M1911]

From the article


So other crimes are ok, they couldn't have put him in jail for this stuff?

Maybe they didn't have (admissible) proof. And maybe it was such penny ante crap that it wasn't worth their while.

 

[frenchman]

From the article


So other crimes are ok, they couldn't have put him in jail for this stuff?

Yeah, it's not like he was selling loosies. They could've just choked him to death.

 

[193rdsoldier]

Yeah, it's not like he was selling loosies. They could've just choked him to death.

I see what you did there

 

[RImike]

For those of you unaware how bad/plentiful Islamic extremest are in Paris, there are about neighborhoods where the police don't venture. These neighborhoods are ruled by sharia law and are breeding grounds for home grown extremism. Essentially, becoming mafia trafficking illegal arms and drugs in and around France.
http://www.catholic.org/news/international/europe/story.php?id=58341
http://insider.foxnews.com/2015/01/10/hundreds-no-go-zones-across-france-are-limits-non-muslims

And an article dating back to 2011 about this:
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/2367/european-muslim-no-go-zones

Coming soon to your town.

 

[richc]

For those of you unaware how bad/plentiful Islamic extremest are in Paris, there are about neighborhoods where the police don't venture. These neighborhoods are ruled by sharia law and are breeding grounds for home grown extremism. Essentially, becoming mafia trafficking illegal arms and drugs in and around France.
http://www.catholic.org/news/international/europe/story.php?id=58341
http://insider.foxnews.com/2015/01/10/hundreds-no-go-zones-across-france-are-limits-non-muslims

And an article dating back to 2011 about this:
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/2367/european-muslim-no-go-zones

Coming soon to your town.

I would love to see the French push back hard and take back their country. I agree with Frenchman. The French are easy going and way too socialist, but don't step over the line. There are factions among the French, much like here in America, who take this very seriously. And the terrorists stepped way over the line.

I would love to see the French head into these areas armed to the teeth and take them back. Knock down every sign of Sharia law and replace it with the French flag. Show the bastards that French law rules.

I just heard someone say on tv that there are too many targets for the French government to follow. Then disrupt their areas of control. Put the police back in there in force and take back their soils.

Screw'em. The terrorists have made their intentions clear. Unless the French people respond in force there will be more attacks and the terrorists will be further empowered. Bury the bastards.

 

[71montess]

Ohh man the MSNBC crowd is going crazy to push the discrimination of the Arab population as the excuse for the extremist situation. We should deport the Muzzies and the Democrats.

 

[Varmint]

WARNING if you are squeamish about death

Uncut video with slow mo.

WARNING if you are squeamish about death

I assume the police were worried he was charging with a bomb vest and made sure he was good and dead.

There were cops to the left of the window - looked to me like there might have been a bit of friendly fire, if the cops on the right missed the perp.

 

[M1911]

There were cops to the left of the window - looked to me like there might have been a bit of friendly fire, if the cops on the right missed the perp.

I think there was. Look at the reaction of the cops on the right. I think one might have been hit in the legs.

 

[josh2600]

WARNING if you are squeamish about death

Uncut video with slow mo.

WARNING if you are squeamish about death

I assume the police were worried he was charging with a bomb vest and made sure he was good and dead.

 

[FalArAk]

Don't worry,another attack like this shouldn't happen again.

They are having a unity march.Appealing to their sensibilities and compassion will surely stop the terrorists from striking again..

 

[modnaru]

For those of you unaware how bad/plentiful Islamic extremest are in Paris, there are about neighborhoods where the police don't venture. These neighborhoods are ruled by sharia law and are breeding grounds for home grown extremism. Essentially, becoming mafia trafficking illegal arms and drugs in and around France.
http://www.catholic.org/news/international/europe/story.php?id=58341
http://insider.foxnews.com/2015/01/10/hundreds-no-go-zones-across-france-are-limits-non-muslims

And an article dating back to 2011 about this:
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/2367/european-muslim-no-go-zones

Coming soon to your town.

Most of the victims of this are people who live in these areas - many or most of them being part of the groups dominated by Islamic culture (I am not calling the Muslims because most of them probably don't actually actively practice the religion). Unless they stop accepting this and stand up for their freedom, it's not going to really change. There is plenty of evidence in the US that policing parallel-cultures is really hard.

 

[coachjpg]

I would love to see the French head into these areas armed to the teeth and take them back. Knock down every sign of Sharia law and replace it with the French flag. Show the bastards that French law rules.

Kenya did that in November. Islamic terrorists murdered non-Muslims on a bus, and the Kenyan government response included air strikes and gunships against terrorist bases in Kenya. Right and left wing news links below.

http://conservativetribune.com/kenyan-government-muslims/
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-...itant-camps-kills-100-after-bus-shooting.html

 

[mikeyp]

750 no go zones in France because of Muslim control? Sounds like a lot of areas http://www.ijreview.com/2015/01/230...e-shot-french-go-zones-enable-terror-attacks/

 

[mikeyp]

I guess 750 is more or less the right number http://insider.foxnews.com/2015/01/10/hundreds-no-go-zones-across-france-are-limits-non-muslims

 

[mikeyp]

Oh and hey look, a lot of world leaders showing solidarity with France. Guess who's not there http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/11/world-leaders-in-paris-whos-who

There were more than 50 world leaders there http://www.theblaze.com/stories/201...ericans-wonder-why-obama-skipped-paris-march/

 

[economist]

Now we have Obama with a "Global Security Summit".

There are a few things to remember in situations like this that seem to be routinely ignored. First, being a victim does not make one a hero (these "Charlie Hebdo" guys seem pretty silly to me). Second, just because something bad happens does not imply the risk of it happening in the future is any different than it was in the past. This event is notable because it happened and because such events are rare, but there is no reason to expect that rarity to change. I'll predict this dies out once the media get bored with it.

In sum, when we look at risks to life and liberty in the west the fact is that violent Islamists are just about irrelevant, while government reaction and public fear are far bigger concerns. This could change, but so far the big takeaway from the post-9/11 "war on terror" is that the risk rarely materializes and when it does the west overreacts.

 

[economist]

Two examples of fear from the WSJ -- calling for more surveillance and mocking privacy concerns. This is how police states and oppressive governments get created.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-next-islamist-rampage-1420847885

France’s terror rampage ended Friday as police killed three Islamists, but not before they had paralyzed much of the country, taken more hostages, and killed at least four more innocents. Europe and the U.S. had better brace for more such attacks, while reinforcing the antiterror defenses, moral and military, that have come under political assault in recent years.

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The West also needs to cease its political campaign against the most effective antiterror tools. This means surveillance in particular. The same left-libertarian media who have canonized Edward Snowden and Glenn Greenwald now claim solidarity with Charlie Hebdo. Sorry. You cannot favor antiterror disarmament and then claim shock at terror successes.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/holman-jenkins-we-can-protect-ourselves-1420847210

We have the tools. U.S. privacy concerns are overblown. One word: EZPass. The U.S. government and private businesses already hold information on all of us—our health, our finances, our movements—that would be infinitely more distressing if leaked or misused.

Ridiculous, then, is our angst about phone metadata, which allows law enforcement quickly to connect phone numbers used by terrorist and criminal suspects (though not to monitor their calls). Let’s face it, the potential risks of phone-metadata abuse are so much less than the potential risk of abuse of the vastly more sensitive data that government and businesses protect on our behalf. So let’s grow up and move on.

 

[wahsben]

Most likely will be used to take away more freedoms from the people that didn't do anything.

Now we have Obama with a "Global Security Summit".

There are a few things to remember in situations like this that seem to be routinely ignored. First, being a victim does not make one a hero (these "Charlie Hebdo" guys seem pretty silly to me). Second, just because something bad happens does not imply the risk of it happening in the future is any different than it was in the past. This event is notable because it happened and because such events are rare, but there is no reason to expect that rarity to change. I'll predict this dies out once the media get bored with it.

In sum, when we look at risks to life and liberty in the west the fact is that violent Islamists are just about irrelevant, while government reaction and public fear are far bigger concerns. This could change, but so far the big takeaway from the post-9/11 "war on terror" is that the risk rarely materializes and when it does the west overreacts.

 

[LoginName]

Now they're going after ze Germans...

Firebombing at German paper that ran Charlie Hebdo cartoons

Berlin (AFP) - A German tabloid that paid tribute to those killed at Charlie Hebdo by reprinting cartoons from the French satirical paper mocking the Prophet Mohammed was firebombed Sunday, police said.
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With security services on high alert after a jihadist killing spree in Paris, police in the northern German port city of Hamburg said no one was at the headquarters of the regional daily Hamburger Morgenpost at the time of the attack, which caused only slight damage.

Hamburg police said it was "too soon" to tell whether there was a connection between the Charlie Hebdo tribute and the firebombing, which would be the first attack against the cartoons since Wednesday's massacre of 12 people at the French weekly.

"Rocks and then a burning object were thrown through the window," a police spokesman told AFP.

"Two rooms on lower floors were damaged but the fire was put out quickly."

http://news.yahoo.com/arson-attack-german-paper-ran-charlie-hebdo-cartoons-065348454.html

They're playing with fire now (no pun intended)... Germany is not France.