I have someone looking to sell/trade a sbr. He mentioned something about transferring his tax stamp over to me filling out a form 4. I called my local ffl. He said he does not deal with NFA items. My question is does anyone know of a ffl dealer who does or has anyone done this before and know the process. Also this person seems to think the turn around is 10-14 days. Also does anyone know if I would have to pay the 200 dollars again for transferring the tax stamp to me. Thank you if anyone has any information.
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Question on transferring a sbr
- Thread starter Jstick4
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Good luck finding a dealer in MA to transfer an SBR on a form four, yes you would have to Pay the $200. for a new tax stamp. In MA SBR's are considered Pistols and need to meet the current approved firearms roster.
GFA in Natick does. I've never done a form 4. You definitely have to pay the $200 and probably a fee to the FFL to do the transfer. I believe Form 4s turnaround is quite awhile at least with suppressors they are
JRT
NES Member
An FFL willl not be involved, assuming you are in the same state. You complete a personal sale on a paper form 4 with the seller. Often times in these cases you will pay half and take the upper, the seller must hold the lower until the stamp is approved.
JRT
NES Member
FFL won't be involved unless the seller is an FFL and can Form 3 it to GFA. The seller could Form 4 it to Greg at GSA and then he could form 4 it to OP but that's retarded.
That's where Mass gets you because like I said an SBR in Mass doesn't meet the criteria for either a rifle or pistol. It's a firearm by Mass law. Since you can just toss a 16" upper on an SBR lower and at that point it's considered a Title 1 firearm, I have always fa10 it as a rifle. No way am I gonna register a non pistol AR as a pistol lol
how can a dealer transfer it to you then if the FA10 need to be filed as a pistol that is not on the approved list.... Ask an knowledgeable FFL on the matter if you want a second opinion.
JRT
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Yep, the seller just holds it until you are approved. Seems like you have some state issues to deal with based on other comments, good luck.
shockwave shotguns are classified as pistols, IN the state of MA and not on the approved list, so the Ag sent out letters to FFL not to transfer them.... this is all a state issue not a federal definition issue
They are still beholden to the rosters. They are “Approved Firearms” rosters, not approved handgun/pistol rosters.
eFile form 1s were 14-21 days at absolute best in the fastest processing the ATF could manage. Form 4s can take a year. And that’s before the ATF told 40 million people to file for SBR stamps for their braces.
Doesn't matter no transaction has taken place, what we are talking about is if an FFL can transfer it, and how they record that transfer via FA 10. if it is not on the approved firearm roster it is not transferable
if you switch from a 18" barrel to a 21"" would you re FA10? of course not no transaction occurred
No, he has a firearm. But no different FA10 is needed.
It is frustrating though, to make an NFA item and having to FA10 it as a pistol… just because the Firearms Records Bureau is too lazy to actually look at Massachusetts codified definitions in MGL.
if you are building SBR''s from receivers do you think you are even required t register in the first place?? show me that law, does not exist, so no need to lie about the barrel length in the first place
