allen-1
NES Member
So, I ordered something online this morning from Palmetto State Armory. And let's be upfront about this. I live in Georgia, they're about an hour up the road from me, and was in their store a couple of months ago when I was having my truck serviced just down the street from there.
It's a NICE shop. People there were great, good supply of guns, ammo, stuff. There's a range there. I walked out with a 9mm AR on a whim purchase and been quite happy with it. Shot it last night as a matter of fact.
I just logged into their site because I want an upper for a build I'm doing, and it struck me that if I could get one just like the one on the 9mm AR I was shooting last night - that'd be perfect, (in .556).
And I found it, so I ordered it.
But while doing so, I had to accept their terms of business. And I'm not angry with them. Although some of you reading this may be.
Included in their terms of business is:
"PSA will not ship ANY items to the state of Massachusetts."
Like I said, I've been in their shop. This isn't some huge conglomerate, some faceless monolothic monstrosity. This is a decent sized operation that's trying to abide by all of the various laws that are laid down by the many states and cities. And the way I read this, and their treatment of Washington DC in the same fashion - is that someone at Palmetto State Armory just said "fck it", it's not worth the aggravation. So you can thank Maura and her buddies.
Me, I just checked the box off and my upper is on its way. Should be here in a couple of days.
If you look at the list of what they won't ship, you get an idea of what they're dealing with, and the maze of restrictions they're trying to cope with:
(Note - I've trimmed out a lot because there's a word limit on the post)
Firearm Shipments
PSA will not ship ANY items to the District of Columbia (Washington D.C.).
PSA will not ship ANY items to the state of Massachusetts.
WE SHIP ONLY TO VALID FFL DEALERS.
Please note: Firearms cannot be shipped to a P.O. Box.
PSA will not ship ANY items to the District of Columbia (Washington D.C.).
PSA will not ship ANY AR or AK Parts or Firearms (Including Receivers) to the City of Chicago, Illinois.
PSA will not ship ANY AR or AK Firearms (Including Receivers) to Aurora, Highland Park, or Cook County, Illinois.
PSA will not ship any handguns to CA that are not on the DOJ roster. This includes Single Shot Exemption conversions.
Stripped lower receivers will NOT be shipped to the following states:
- Connecticut
Complete AR and AK receivers will NOT be shipped to the following states:
- California
- Connecticut
- Maryland
- Massachusetts
- New Jersey
- New York
Non-Compliant AR & AK models will NOT be shipped to the following states:
- California (No “assault weapons” can be shipped.)
- Connecticut
- Maryland
- Massachusetts
- New Jersey
- New York
Palmetto State Armory DOES NOT ship high-capacity magazines (those greater than 10 rounds) with firearms to the states listed below. We WILL NOT replace high capacity magazines with state compliant magazines. We DO NOT offer refunds in place of the magazines.
Magazine Ordering Restrictions
PSA will not ship ANY items to the District of Columbia (Washington D.C.).
PSA will not ship ANY items to the state of Massachusetts.
It is the customer’s responsibility for understanding state laws regarding magazine capacities.
Customers ordering magazines that are illegal to own in their state will have their orders cancelled and will be charged a 5% restocking fee.
States with applied magazine restrictions:
California - no magazines greater than 10 rounds
Colorado - no magazines greater than 15 rounds, effective July 1st, 2013
Connecticut - 10 Rounds and less with a valid permit.
Hawaii - no pistol magazines greater than 10 rounds
Illinois - North Chicago, no rifle magazines greater than 16 rounds
Aurora, Skokie, Chicago, Evanston no rifle magazines greater than 15 rounds
Highland Park, Cook County, Dolton, Homewood no rifle magazines greater than 10 rounds
Indiana - South Bend - no magazines greater than 15 rounds
Maryland - no magazines greater than 10 rounds October 1st, 2013
New Jersey - no magazines greater than 15 rounds
New York - no magazines greater than 10 rounds
PSA will not ship ANY items to the District of Columbia (Washington D.C.).
Ammunition Ordering Restrictions
PSA will not ship ANY items to the District of Columbia (Washington D.C.).
PSA will not ship ANY items to the state of Massachusetts.
Palmetto State Armory ABIDES by all state regulations regarding the sale of ammunition.
We WILL NOT ship ammunition to the following areas:
This is not a comprehensive list, but is meant as a guide.
It is in no way meant to include all laws and restrictions across the United States.
Please contact the authorities in your area for any possible restrictions.
If you do live in a restricted area, your order will be cancelled.
- California: No Sales to the cities of Los Angeles, Oakland, Sacramento, San Francisco, or Avalon.
- Connecticut: No sales without a valid permit.
- Alaska: No Sales. Ammunition must be shipped to a freight forwarder.
- Hawaii: No Sales. Ammunition must be shipped to a freight forwarder.
- Illinois: No Sales to the city of Chicago or Cook County. All other Illinois residents must email us a copy of their FOID card in addition to their State ID.
Ammunition must ship to an address on one of these ID's.
- Maryland: No Sales to the City of Annapolis and Montgomery County
- New York: No Sales to New York City, or its five Burroughs. Starting January 1st, 2014 all ammunition must be sent to a FFL.
- Washington DC: No Sales.
- New Jersey: When ordering ammunition commonly used in a handgun/to be used in a handgun, email us a copy of your Firearms ID.
We must ship to the address on the FID.
PSA will not ship ANY items to the District of Columbia (Washington D.C.).
California 2017 Notice
Due to recent changes in California state law, Palmetto State Armory will no longer be able to ship so called “assault weapons” to the state of California. This would include all Palmetto State Armory AR-15 Complete lowers, AR-15 Complete Rifles, and all Palmetto State Armory AK-47 rifles. This would also include other makes and models of these same firearm platforms manufactured by other companies. Example: Colt AR-15 rifle.
As of the 18th of December all ammunition orders must be shipped to a California DOJ approved FFL. If any further guidance is provided by the state of California, then the current policy will be adjusted to reflect the change. If no further guidance is published before January 1, 2018, the policy will be that any ammunition purchase for California will only be shipped to an FFL dealer.
Other Ordering Restrictions
PSA will not ship ANY items to the District of Columbia (Washington D.C.).
PSA will not ship ANY items to the state of Massachusetts.
- Alaska: No tannerite sales.
- Hawaii: No tannerite sales.
- Maryland: No tannerite sales.
I have read and agree to all terms and conditions
It's a NICE shop. People there were great, good supply of guns, ammo, stuff. There's a range there. I walked out with a 9mm AR on a whim purchase and been quite happy with it. Shot it last night as a matter of fact.
I just logged into their site because I want an upper for a build I'm doing, and it struck me that if I could get one just like the one on the 9mm AR I was shooting last night - that'd be perfect, (in .556).
And I found it, so I ordered it.
But while doing so, I had to accept their terms of business. And I'm not angry with them. Although some of you reading this may be.
Included in their terms of business is:
"PSA will not ship ANY items to the state of Massachusetts."
Like I said, I've been in their shop. This isn't some huge conglomerate, some faceless monolothic monstrosity. This is a decent sized operation that's trying to abide by all of the various laws that are laid down by the many states and cities. And the way I read this, and their treatment of Washington DC in the same fashion - is that someone at Palmetto State Armory just said "fck it", it's not worth the aggravation. So you can thank Maura and her buddies.
Me, I just checked the box off and my upper is on its way. Should be here in a couple of days.
If you look at the list of what they won't ship, you get an idea of what they're dealing with, and the maze of restrictions they're trying to cope with:
(Note - I've trimmed out a lot because there's a word limit on the post)
Firearm Shipments
PSA will not ship ANY items to the District of Columbia (Washington D.C.).
PSA will not ship ANY items to the state of Massachusetts.
WE SHIP ONLY TO VALID FFL DEALERS.
Please note: Firearms cannot be shipped to a P.O. Box.
PSA will not ship ANY items to the District of Columbia (Washington D.C.).
PSA will not ship ANY AR or AK Parts or Firearms (Including Receivers) to the City of Chicago, Illinois.
PSA will not ship ANY AR or AK Firearms (Including Receivers) to Aurora, Highland Park, or Cook County, Illinois.
PSA will not ship any handguns to CA that are not on the DOJ roster. This includes Single Shot Exemption conversions.
Stripped lower receivers will NOT be shipped to the following states:
- Connecticut
Complete AR and AK receivers will NOT be shipped to the following states:
- California
- Connecticut
- Maryland
- Massachusetts
- New Jersey
- New York
Non-Compliant AR & AK models will NOT be shipped to the following states:
- California (No “assault weapons” can be shipped.)
- Connecticut
- Maryland
- Massachusetts
- New Jersey
- New York
Palmetto State Armory DOES NOT ship high-capacity magazines (those greater than 10 rounds) with firearms to the states listed below. We WILL NOT replace high capacity magazines with state compliant magazines. We DO NOT offer refunds in place of the magazines.
Magazine Ordering Restrictions
PSA will not ship ANY items to the District of Columbia (Washington D.C.).
PSA will not ship ANY items to the state of Massachusetts.
It is the customer’s responsibility for understanding state laws regarding magazine capacities.
Customers ordering magazines that are illegal to own in their state will have their orders cancelled and will be charged a 5% restocking fee.
States with applied magazine restrictions:
California - no magazines greater than 10 rounds
Colorado - no magazines greater than 15 rounds, effective July 1st, 2013
Connecticut - 10 Rounds and less with a valid permit.
Hawaii - no pistol magazines greater than 10 rounds
Illinois - North Chicago, no rifle magazines greater than 16 rounds
Aurora, Skokie, Chicago, Evanston no rifle magazines greater than 15 rounds
Highland Park, Cook County, Dolton, Homewood no rifle magazines greater than 10 rounds
Indiana - South Bend - no magazines greater than 15 rounds
Maryland - no magazines greater than 10 rounds October 1st, 2013
New Jersey - no magazines greater than 15 rounds
New York - no magazines greater than 10 rounds
PSA will not ship ANY items to the District of Columbia (Washington D.C.).
Ammunition Ordering Restrictions
PSA will not ship ANY items to the District of Columbia (Washington D.C.).
PSA will not ship ANY items to the state of Massachusetts.
Palmetto State Armory ABIDES by all state regulations regarding the sale of ammunition.
We WILL NOT ship ammunition to the following areas:
This is not a comprehensive list, but is meant as a guide.
It is in no way meant to include all laws and restrictions across the United States.
Please contact the authorities in your area for any possible restrictions.
If you do live in a restricted area, your order will be cancelled.
- California: No Sales to the cities of Los Angeles, Oakland, Sacramento, San Francisco, or Avalon.
- Connecticut: No sales without a valid permit.
- Alaska: No Sales. Ammunition must be shipped to a freight forwarder.
- Hawaii: No Sales. Ammunition must be shipped to a freight forwarder.
- Illinois: No Sales to the city of Chicago or Cook County. All other Illinois residents must email us a copy of their FOID card in addition to their State ID.
Ammunition must ship to an address on one of these ID's.
- Maryland: No Sales to the City of Annapolis and Montgomery County
- New York: No Sales to New York City, or its five Burroughs. Starting January 1st, 2014 all ammunition must be sent to a FFL.
- Washington DC: No Sales.
- New Jersey: When ordering ammunition commonly used in a handgun/to be used in a handgun, email us a copy of your Firearms ID.
We must ship to the address on the FID.
PSA will not ship ANY items to the District of Columbia (Washington D.C.).
California 2017 Notice
Due to recent changes in California state law, Palmetto State Armory will no longer be able to ship so called “assault weapons” to the state of California. This would include all Palmetto State Armory AR-15 Complete lowers, AR-15 Complete Rifles, and all Palmetto State Armory AK-47 rifles. This would also include other makes and models of these same firearm platforms manufactured by other companies. Example: Colt AR-15 rifle.
As of the 18th of December all ammunition orders must be shipped to a California DOJ approved FFL. If any further guidance is provided by the state of California, then the current policy will be adjusted to reflect the change. If no further guidance is published before January 1, 2018, the policy will be that any ammunition purchase for California will only be shipped to an FFL dealer.
Other Ordering Restrictions
PSA will not ship ANY items to the District of Columbia (Washington D.C.).
PSA will not ship ANY items to the state of Massachusetts.
- Alaska: No tannerite sales.
- Hawaii: No tannerite sales.
- Maryland: No tannerite sales.
I have read and agree to all terms and conditions