oregon militia seizes building

Interesting developments. I'm surprised this thread is not on fire. Telling, actually.

I think most agree that THIS (the direction of the country) will not end well. The question is the nature and timing of the "tipping point". Short of "an act of god", I don't see the ball being advanced for decades as the "voting base" is too small with too many factions of disenfranchisement, too comfortable, and too self-absorbed.
 
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Step back just a second and take another look. If true, what happened to get 150 armed men to defy TPTB? With all NES's chest thumping and online posturing about how we won't stand for the latest government incursions into our quality of life, could you foresee anything akin to this in, say, Boston?
Right. Let's send 150 NES members, sans guns, into a local McDonalds and wipe out all the Double Cheeseburgers. That's about the extent. With all our badassery we can't even find where a pizza is made.
 
kalash said:
Is this basically over the Hammonds not recognizing federal authority?
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The Feds for whatever reason want them off the land.
Could be a case like Reid and the Bundy's where there's some big money is there to be made .
Solar farm , development ect.
Trump up some charges , throw them off, = profit.
 
Just read in one article they already closed the local school for the entire week...something's stiring up
 
Dadstoys said:
No one was coming to help the folks at Waco.
They go in and wipe out these guys, getting out of that area intact may be a problem.
Staying in that area afterward would certainly be an issue.
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I'm willing to bet the house that many of these guys in Oregon are veterans and know how to cause severe damage to an enemy. I'm not sure they'll burn quietly like the cultists in WACO did if the Feds attack them. These guys will definitely put some hurt out there and the wussies at the ATF and or the BLM won't know what hit them. Anything less than military heavy weaponry (if the Feds use that, it's Civil War 2.0 folks) won't get these guys out IMHO
 
just jim said:
Oregonians are getting fed up with the corruption, we have an appointed govenor because the democrat voted in had to resign for corruption.
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Someone should whisper to him: move to Massachusetts, wait a year or so, run initially for school committee (even if he has no kids) and with a (D) beside his name he's a shoe-in, despite "a little bit of ugliness" that he experienced at the hands of "cruel" or "hate mongering" citizens back in his home state. That stuff plays well with the Massachusetts Libs. He'll get mountains of "understanding" and "support" from his "neighbors in his new community" and will win handily. Then the following year city council, then State Rep, etc etc...Tell him to run on the mantra of "GUNS ARE BAD! GUNS ARE EVIL! and after he breezes to victory he'll end up as Chairman of the Joint Committee on Public Safety, and he will lead the vote for even more strict gun control than we currently have here in Stalingrad.

Even better, for him, if he puts an "X" in one of the non-caucasian boxes on his application forms, drivers license etc...
For example, "American Indian, .001%" would get him to the head of the class at our State House. He'll be Massachusetts State Senator Kitzhaber, then Lt. Governor under our eventual new Governor, John Dukakis (Mike's son).
The future will be BRIGHT from there! Rub elbows with President Lizzie Warren when she's back in town for a vacation down in Nantucket, run for Congress, and if he happens to still have his law degree from his online Alma Mater, Yale.com, Lizzie will appoint her "Indian Cousin" to the Supreme Court (where they FINALLY are looking at "Second Amendment Repeal" among on their docket in 2024).

Relax, former Oregon Governor Kitzhaber. The future is bright!!
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GlockJock said:
Someone should whisper to him: move to Massachusetts, wait a year or so, run initially for school committee (even if he has no kids) and with a (D) beside his name he's a shoe-in, despite "a little bit of ugliness" that he experienced at the hands of "cruel" or "hate mongering" citizens back in his home state. That stuff plays well with the Massachusetts Libs. He'll get mountains of "understanding" and "support" from his "neighbors in his new community" and will win handily. Then the following year city council, then State Rep, etc etc...Tell him to run on the mantra of "GUNS ARE BAD! GUNS ARE EVIL! and after he breezes to victory he'll end up as Chairman of the Joint Committee on Public Safety, and he will lead the vote for even more strict gun control than we currently have here in Stalingrad.

Even better, for him, if he puts and "X" in one of the non-caucasian boxes on his application forms, drivers license etc...
For example, "American Indian, .001%" would get him to the head of the class at our State House. He'll be Massachusetts State Senator Kitzhaber, then Lt. Governor under our eventual new Governor, John Dukakis (Mike's son).
The future will be BRIGHT from there! Rub elbows with President Lizzie Warren when she's back in town for a vacation down in Nantucket, run for Congress, and if he happens to still have his law degree from his online Alma Mater, Yale.com, Lizzie will appoint her "Indian Cousin" to the Supreme Court (where they FINALLY are looking at "Second Amendment Repeal" among on their docket in 2024).

Relax, former Oregon Governor Kitzhaber. The future is bright!!
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Now this man has been paying attention folks!!^^^^
 
HOSSUSMC posted that the people doing this are all from out of state, and are doing this without the support of the local community, i guess the Oregon militia members werent even informed of this. You would think if people were going to do this, they would try and get the support of the local community to improve their position.
 
If the .gov goes full retard then 1 Hellfire is all it would take.
The terrorism angle is already being played up.
0 will say he had no choice because of the remoteness and the cold and the sheep will buy it if we let them.
Time to choose who's banner will you follow? Stop trying to be liked by all and take a stand for what we believe in.

Times they are a changing.
 
Jsfitzgerald85 said:
HOSSUSMC posted that the people doing this are all from out of state, and are doing this without the support of the local community, i guess the Oregon militia members werent even informed of this. You would think if people were going to do this, they would try and get the support of the local community to improve their position.
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Are you talking about "TheHossUSMC" on youtube? Nothing on his channel about it at all.
 
radioman said:
If the .gov goes full retard then 1 Hellfire is all it would take.
The terrorism angle is already being played up.
0 will say he had no choice because of the remoteness and the cold and the sheep will buy it if we let them.
Time to choose who's banner will you follow? Stop trying to be liked by all and take a stand for what we believe in.

Times they are a changing.
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While the government possesses the weaponry (courtesy of the American taxpayer) to vaporize those folks in 5 minutes that's not going to happen. The government wiping out citizens who are standing opposed to government over reach is a very different story than the cultists that were BBQ'd in Waco. Back then most of America thought "Meh, they're nuts anyway". A government slaughter here will not play well at all with enough Americans that all hell could and probably will break loose around the nation, much like falling dominoes the anger WILL spread. The snowflakes won't be able to keep the anger in check
 
Finalygotabeltfed said:
Are you talking about "TheHossUSMC" on youtube? Nothing on his channel about it at all.
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he posted it to facebook. Ill copy and paste what he wrote.

Late afternoon on Jan 2nd a group of individuals, led by people from other states, took over an unattended building in a national wildlife refugee area near Burns Oregon. This group piggy backed off a peacefully and lawfully planned protest.
Two things need to be addressed here.
1. None of the Militia groups from Oregon have backed this move, and the people of that eastern Oregon community did not want this either. This is an invasion of hostile foreign people into the state of Oregon. This was previously planned by there foreigners, and kept secret from the Oregon groups specifically to subvert the wishes of the people of Oregon.
2. There is no argument among the Militias that sometimes we need to make a stand against oppressive government. What is being argued is why here and now. The peaceful protest would have been a great, if not under-reported, event that would bring awareness to the actions of the federal government in eastern Oregon. Even if this was the right course of action, then logistical planning should have been put into place long before this action took place.
This invasion from foreigners into Oregon is unwelcome all fronts. I am horrified at these actions, and want everyone to know that I do not support this action here or at this time. I am surprised that people who claim to want to be left alone in peace would bring war to a place that it's none of their business to be in anyway.]
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its going to be interesting to see how progressives respond to this. Progressives went out of their way to support OWS and will flame anyone who bashes the actions of BLM. Eric Holder himself occupied a JROTC building when in college.

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Chevy 2 65 said:
He uses "foreigners" I don't think he knows the meaning? They are Americans, unorganized fail at it's best.
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he clarified that in a comment, he means residents of other states.
 
A federal judge in Las Vegas first ordered Bundy in 1998 to remove "trespass cattle" from land the bureau declared a refuge for the endangered desert tortoise. Bureau officials obtained court orders last year allowing the roundup.

You can't make this crap up folks. This all started because some snowflakes wanted to protect the desert tortoise. Imagine Civil War 2.0 being started because of a tortoise?
 
Jsfitzgerald85 said:
its going to be interesting to see how progressives respond to this. Progressives went out of their way to support OWS and will flame anyone who bashes the actions of BLM. Eric Holder himself occupied a JROTC building when in college.

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he clarified that in a comment, he means residents of other states.
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They all ready said that this doesn't compare to there movement, two reason. First they had the support of people behind them, ya OK. Second, yep you guessed it guns. They clame they were non violent and as we all know that was BS.

Jason.
 
The people on the ground - the ones going to jail over the burn - don't want this, they have decided they want to go the martyr route. The other folks - the ones who took over the building - have other ideas.

The ring leaders seem to be bring accused of being govt plants and provocateurs and have gotten some to come along. The people who have them pegged as govt-entities have many good points. Taking over a building instead of defending those wronged is a red flag.

We will have to see how this goes - and those of you who want something closer may get your wish before this is over. I would have taken a much more detailed interest in this had I been closer, much like those in Oregon take a slight interest in Mass Gun Laws.
 

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