Varmint
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"Walther PPK. 7.65 millimeter. Only three men I know use such a gun; I believe I've killed two of them...."
Did he really say 7.65mm?
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"Walther PPK. 7.65 millimeter. Only three men I know use such a gun; I believe I've killed two of them...."
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They are not fun to shoot.
If I were to carry a .380 again, my choice would be a Colt Government Model .380
My buddy has one, I've shot it several times side-by-side with my PPK.
No comparison, the Colt shoots like a creampuff next to the Walther, far better trigger too.
I've also fired the SIG P232, which is another DA, fixed barrel, straight blowback action.
Ergonomically it's more pleasant to shoot than the PPK, but feels chunkier in the hand.
What didn't you like about it other than what EddieCoyle says?
Did he really say 7.65mm?
... I wonder how many people still own a PPK and still like it for what it is.
VERY many.
I don't know if playing Bond is all accurate for me, although it doesn't sound like a bad fantasy,lol. I have men a mechanical designer/mechanical tech for most of my life so I tend to go for ascetics and machined quality. I like the idea of an all steel design as opposed to polymer, although the strength and durability of today's plastics can rival steel.
That Colt Mustang looks pretty nice. Looks like it's missing the back strap safety. Does the slide lock on those disengage anything else.
Even with the negative rap I wonder how many people still own a PPK and still like it for what it is.
Maybe it was one of the recalled ones?I had Walther PPKS very briefly - it was the worst gun I've ever owned. Couldn't fire an entire magazine without jamming multiple times. Tried different magazine, different shooters. Will never own another Walther (I hold a grudge).
Maybe it was one of the recalled ones?
I saw they only have a one year warranty. The Sig's come with a lifetime warrant as other manufacturers. It should be a responsibility for manufacturers to give lifetime warranties. Lives depend on them.The recall didn't affect the actual cycling of the gun when firing, it had to do with parts breakage in the safety/decocker mechanism.
As I said above, it's hit or miss, either you get a good one or a bad one.
I got a good one, which cycles reliably, my dad got a bad one which performed the way Max Stravinsky described.
The PPK is heavy for what it is, snappier than it should be because it's a straight blowback pistol, and it only holds 7 rounds of .380. Also, the trigger sucks.
I wonder how the "Colt Government Model .380" compares to the Sig 938, which is basically a 1911 style in .380 vs. 9mm.
I have a Colt Government Model .380 and a Sig 938. They are about the same size. The Colt slide to rail fit is more loose, buts its a very accurate .380, even though the sights suck when compared to the 938 sights. The 938 is fairly accurate. I also have a Beretta 84B and a Glock 42. The Glock 42 is the nicest carry gun of the 4, but the trigger is the worst of all of them. The Beretta is the most accurate of the 4 and is the heaviest of the 4 with it's 13 round magazine. I don't like black on black sights for carry, so my jeweler soldered a 14k gold square bead on the front sight. Huge positive difference. Of the 4 guns, I carry the 938 more by far.
Great comparison, thanks. On the single action only do you rely on an unchambered round and cock it for safety?I have a Colt Government Model .380 and a Sig 938. They are about the same size. The Colt slide to rail fit is more loose, buts its a very accurate .380, even though the sights suck when compared to the 938 sights. The 938 is fairly accurate. I also have a Beretta 84B and a Glock 42. The Glock 42 is the nicest carry gun of the 4, but the trigger is the worst of all of them. The Beretta is the most accurate of the 4 and is the heaviest of the 4 with it's 13 round magazine. I don't like black on black sights for carry, so my jeweler soldered a 14k gold square bead on the front sight. Huge positive difference. Of the 4 guns, I carry the 938 more by far.
I have a Colt Government Model .380 and a Sig 938. They are about the same size. The Colt slide to rail fit is more loose, buts its a very accurate .380, even though the sights suck when compared to the 938 sights. The 938 is fairly accurate. I also have a Beretta 84B and a Glock 42. The Glock 42 is the nicest carry gun of the 4, but the trigger is the worst of all of them. The Beretta is the most accurate of the 4 and is the heaviest of the 4 with it's 13 round magazine. I don't like black on black sights for carry, so my jeweler soldered a 14k gold square bead on the front sight. Huge positive difference. Of the 4 guns, I carry the 938 more by far.
Great comparison, thanks. On the single action only do you rely on an unchambered round and cock it for safety?
If the Glock is the "nicest" carry gun, then why do you carry the 938 "more by far"?
So half cock gives it the da?Nah. If I have to take time to rack the slide, get into a half decent shooting ready position and squeeze the trigger, I'll probably be dead before I achieve all of it. Although some here have criticized me for the practice, I carry on half cock and have done so for 47 years without an issue. Since I have the benefit of making this decision, based on my own years of experience, I will continue to carry the 1911 on half cock. I do not promote the way that I choose to carry for others however. Each to his own.
Had an Interarms version for several years - very unreliable - even had it worked on by a famous gunsmith and it was still a jammamatic. I'd never get another one.