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Opinion from NES Electricians....The real ones!!!
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Palladin
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I was in someone's house and came across a box like this in the basement, I cut it out, left the box intact, respliced the conductors properly, then gave the box to a buddy who teaches at VokTech HS, to use as a 'what not to do' example
1903Collector
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Its funny you say that, I deal with quite a few electricians in my job and many of them are like "WTF" when it comes to the code
1903Collector
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Good catch there...that's the new wire that will be used for the lights.
1903Collector
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I've had four different electrical contractors working on site doing basically the same work and they all have their own interpretation of the code.
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Not sure why you say that. A box extension is a viable option. The deeper box allows for more cable connections to bring it into code. The extension ring probably costs more than a larger 4 square deep box though.
AHM
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Two weeks ago brother-in-law #1 was drilling in to the wall to install some drapery rods
for us, and hit metal. I was fastidious to make sure that it wasn't a riser for baseboard heating,
but he figured it could have been a wire protection nail plate.
Never heard of them, and now I'm looking at a photo of one.
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for us, and hit metal. I was fastidious to make sure that it wasn't a riser for baseboard heating,
but he figured it could have been a wire protection nail plate.
Never heard of them, and now I'm looking at a photo of one.
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Gotta leave room for expansion of the wiring when it gets hot.idk, looks like some unused real estate around the 7 o'clock area.
oldguy68
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Use a large enough box and if it is metal make sure to ground the box and use proper connectors to secure the wire sheath to the box.
Some staples within 12" from the box connectors would be nice too.
No need to tape any wirenut, they don't require it.
That box was made up by a homeowner or handyman.
If it at least had a metal cover on it, I would say it's was done better than some so called electricians I know of!![[rofl]](/xen/styles/default/xenforo/smilies.vb/013.gif "ROFL [rofl]")
Yes, I'm licensed here in MA.
Some staples within 12" from the box connectors would be nice too.
No need to tape any wirenut, they don't require it.
That box was made up by a homeowner or handyman.
If it at least had a metal cover on it, I would say it's was done better than some so called electricians I know of!
Yes, I'm licensed here in MA.
1903Collector
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It did have a cover on it and it looks like they actually put black e-tape on the switch leg to ID it.Use a large enough box and if it is metal make sure to ground the box and use proper connectors to secure the wire sheath to the box.
Some staples within 12" from the box connectors would be nice too.
No need to tape any wirenut, they don't require it.
That box was made up by a homeowner or handyman.
If it at least had a metal cover on it, I would say it's was done better than some so called electricians I know of!
Yes, I'm licensed here in MA.
![[laugh]](/xen/styles/default/xenforo/smilies.vb/012.gif "Laugh [laugh]")
When I moved into my house, there was a round fluorescent "circlite" that wasn't really working right, and I hate those anyhow.
Took it down, and in the ceiling, I found a baby food jar, with all sorts of wires going into it. Everything was taped into a big gob, and it was a little warm. I had an electrician buddy put in a ceiling fan there instead, and have a hanging light just beyond that now.
Also had a feed to the garage, which was a pull-chain lamp socket, with a plug adapter where the bulb would go, then out through the wall to the garage. Oh, and it had a big gash in it, as if someone struck it with a hatchet. Had him replace that with I think a box, and a GFCI where it came into the garage, and then off to a few strip lights, outlets, and the garage door opener. The GFCI worked out pretty well, and only tripped out when it should have (wet, flooded garage).
Took it down, and in the ceiling, I found a baby food jar, with all sorts of wires going into it. Everything was taped into a big gob, and it was a little warm. I had an electrician buddy put in a ceiling fan there instead, and have a hanging light just beyond that now.
Also had a feed to the garage, which was a pull-chain lamp socket, with a plug adapter where the bulb would go, then out through the wall to the garage. Oh, and it had a big gash in it, as if someone struck it with a hatchet. Had him replace that with I think a box, and a GFCI where it came into the garage, and then off to a few strip lights, outlets, and the garage door opener. The GFCI worked out pretty well, and only tripped out when it should have (wet, flooded garage).
1903Collector
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So as I have been talking down more ceiling tiles found a few more junction boxes but they look like they were done by a pro, nothing alarming but I just wish they would label stuff, house has had at least three remodels and an addition over its lifetime and there is shit going every which way! Original owners had a tanning bed and a hot tub in the basement so I can get that wiring out of the way now.
I’ve seen worse. Definetily needs to be fixed. Hire a Licensed government electrician
I had an old timer foreman years ago who was the best! He didn’t use any 1/2 inch stock, waste of time. And all splice/junction boxes were in 4-11/16’s boxes and all receptacles and switches were in 4” SQ deeps. He had his shit together.
You are kicked out of the IOEFHO for giving our trade away!
The International Organization of Electricians f***in Homeowners Over
Asaltweapon
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Op asked for real real sparkys but I have to wonder who the hell put that abortion together in the first place?
I’d be more concerned the same person who wired this (and should have his toolbox welded shut) has left his mark elsewhere in the house.
I’d be more concerned the same person who wired this (and should have his toolbox welded shut) has left his mark elsewhere in the house.
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