Open Carry in NH, the Horror... (at least for TPM)

I would be very nervous around Chris Matthews in ANY setting with a gun in his hand. What a raving, unstable lunatic. His fear and paranoia against an armed populace is clearly projection.
 
How is it not cut and dry per NH law? The only place you can't carry per NH law is a courthouse. The only reason you can't carry in a school is fed law, not NH. Unless you can find where it is prohibited than it's legal.
You miss my point. The Revised Gun Free School Zones Act (enacted 9/96) does not prohibit you from carrying within 1000' of a school if you're "licensed to do so by the State in which the school zone is located or a political subdivision of the State, and the law of the State or political subdivision requires that, before an individual obtains such a license, the law enforcement authorities of the State or political subdivision verify that the individual is qualified under law to receive the license;" In other words, if "properly" licensed by your state, the GFSZA does not apply. In NH, there are some who speculate as to whether or not the state P&R License meets the requirements set forth above. That's the part that's not "cut and dried." Notice the guy cited above was not arrested for having a firearm within 1000' of a school; he was cited for carrying a concealed weapon without a license.
 
Another thing worth mentioning is that His Holiness Obama can order a Predator drone to kill any man, woman or child in Afghanistan, Iraq or Pakistan right now, at this very moment, and nobody bats an eyelash.

Yet this man peaceably brings a defensive tool (protected by 2A) with him to demonstrate against an oppressive regime (protected by 1A). I thought these Leftists were big on "rights"?
 
In a seperate news report I just saw, there was a second man found with a gun today.

Inside the high school where Nobama was speaking, a man named Terrance Young was arrested for carrying a pocket knife. When police searched his car, they found a gun, and Young was not "Licensed".

This is not the same man who opened carried at the event, and I hope the facts don't get confused by the MSM, who would love to have a mad-man gun freak to put on the front page and TV.
 
read thru this thread again and watched some more of the news reports about this guy - and I have to say: What he did was hard core - and awesome.

The Free Staters are making a difference. I know a lot of the people on this forum have given DadaOrwell (Ridley) a lot of crap because of his over the top videos and such - but Ridley and this open carry guy are standing up and doing something. This guy just created a walking advertisement for the Free State Movement and the mainstream media gave it to him free.

Brass balls. That's what this guy has.

+1000
 
From Glengarry Glen Ross, a clip from one of the best overall motivational speeches:

brass-balls-724906.jpg


Yea, this guy had em' today.
 
You miss my point. The Revised Gun Free School Zones Act (enacted 9/96) does not prohibit you from carrying within 1000' of a school if you're "licensed to do so by the State in which the school zone is located or a political subdivision of the State, and the law of the State or political subdivision requires that, before an individual obtains such a license, the law enforcement authorities of the State or political subdivision verify that the individual is qualified under law to receive the license;" In other words, if "properly" licensed by your state, the GFSZA does not apply. In NH, there are some who speculate as to whether or not the state P&R License meets the requirements set forth above. That's the part that's not "cut and dried." Notice the guy cited above was not arrested for having a firearm within 1000' of a school; he was cited for carrying a concealed weapon without a license.

Actually it is cut and dry. NH licensing does not meet the requirements to be exempt from the "Gun Free School Zone". NH does not meet the requirement, because selectmen are authorized to issue licenses. If the police chief, and not the selectmen was authorized the requirement would be met.

http://www.pgnh.org/gunlawfaqs

18 USC 922 (q) includes exemptions for private property (i.e., you’re OK if your house is next to a school), for police officers on duty, for school-approved programs, and for unloaded guns in locked containers or locked gun racks. There’s also an exemption for people holding carry licenses, but only if state law requires that “before an individual obtains such a license, the law enforcement authorities of the State or political subdivision verify that the individual is qualified under law to receive the license.” Unfortunately, New Hampshire state law (RSA 159:6) arguably does NOT make the cut, in part because town selectmen and city mayors can issue carry licenses, and they’re not “law enforcement authorities.” But even if your carry license was issued by a police chief, it doesn’t protect you, because our state law doesn’t meet the requirements of the federal law.

This federal “Gun Free School Zones Act” is unpopular, and some people prefer to believe that New Hampshire’s carry licenses provide an exemption, despite the above analysis. Further, nobody in New Hampshire has been arrested or prosecuted on the basis of this federal law. Still, you have to ask yourself if you want to be the test case.
 
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Actually it is cut and dry. NH licensing does not meet the requirements to be exempt from the "Gun Free School Zone". NH does not meet the requirement, because selectmen are authorized to issue licenses. If the police chief, and not the selectmen was authorized the requirement would be met.
So you say. Other lawyers say differently, and even GO-NH has come out with differing positions on it, settling on "don't be a test case."
 
So you say. Other lawyers say differently, and even GO-NH has come out with differing positions on it, settling on "don't be a test case."

Feel free to volunteer to become the "test case" Report back to us once it's all settled.

The law as I reed it doesn't make the grade from the feds. Fact is that the selectmen or mayor CAN issue permits, since they are not LEO, it doesn't meet the federal requirement to be exempt.
 
I think he handled himself quite well, I wish I had met him when I was there.

He definitely did. Notice how he tried to pigeonhole him into the birth certificate conspiracy bunch? This guy was calm, collected, and knew his history too. He even mentioned the bussed in people from MA! [rofl] What I want to know is if he is a member here.
 
Actually it is cut and dry. NH licensing does not meet the requirements to be exempt from the "Gun Free School Zone". NH does not meet the requirement, because selectmen are authorized to issue licenses. If the police chief, and not the selectmen was authorized the requirement would be met.

Well, kinda. Depends on how you interpret US v Lopez.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Us_v_lopez

IMHO US v Lopez makes GFSZ functionally impotent. It'd be an especially big stretch to say that a person duly licensed in NH carrying a gun in a school
is "affecting interstate commerce".

I wouldn't want to test it either. Chances are they'd probably just pull the
"trespassing" card on you if they had to.

-Mike
 
Feel free to volunteer to become the "test case" Report back to us once it's all settled.

The law as I reed it doesn't make the grade from the feds. Fact is that the selectmen or mayor CAN issue permits, since they are not LEO, it doesn't meet the federal requirement to be exempt.
As I said, even GO-NH has had differing opinions on it ("Yes," "no," and now "maybe so"), and I'm not a big believer in much Pro-Gun NH has to say. Believe whatever you want, and act on your beliefs. Until a cognizant judiciary proffers an opinion, that's all it is.
 
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Wow, just watched the whole thing. That loudmouth with the bad wig couldn't get any traction. That guy shut Matthews down with even tempered well thought out replies.
 
From the video.

William Kostric said:
..I'm advocating an informed soceity, an armed soceity, a polite soceity, that's all there is to it. ...

If you don't exercise your rights, you'll lose them.
Ok so he didn't post the above but he did say it on the video.

The first line is what has the .gov fears the most; an informed armed citizen.

The second line serves as a warning to the sheeple.


*Thinking out loud here*
At the next town hall, what if several hundred armed informed citizens attended ?
 
From the video.


Ok so he didn't post the above but he did say it on the video.

The first line is what has the .gov fears the most; an informed armed citizen.

The second line serves as a warning to the sheeple.


*Thinking out loud here*
At the next town hall, what if several hundred armed informed citizens attended ?

[smile]
 
I doubt, Dear Leader will show up at another town hall in NH, because of all the crazy, freedom loving, gun toting, anti socialists, meat eating, right wing terrorists you free staters have up their.

I am actually considering posting on DU, I just love picking on people. The old addage, misery loves company, and today I would love to throw a party. Anyone just want to do in their and just dominate a thread????
 
I watched the Matthews interview online, and it seemed pretty innocuous. Chris was just being pushy and sensationalist in the beginning, and Kostric seemed a little nervous but relatively articulate. Chris tried to initially frame Kostric as the caricature of bubba joe right-wing gun nut from New Hampshire, as expected, but then retreated and was all over the place. The interview wasn't well conducted by Chris. It wasn't clear where Chris and Kostric shared ideologies and diverged on any of the issues, but I don't watch that show usually to know a baseline.

Chris' question in reference to the history of individuals bringing firearms to presidential events called for the following answer... much like crime statistics, we only know about the harm caused by criminals with firearms. No one hears about all of the people who legally carry firearms throughout their travels, including visits to presidential events.

As I said before, Kostric did a good job handling Chris' interrogation on national TV, but I don't see anyone politicians in MA legislating open carry any time soon.
 
Boy, if you actually read some of the post on their, good lord these people are really hateful, damn near violent. I know, I shouldn't be their, reading their stuff, but, I was always told, keep your friends close, keep your enemies closer. Plus it helps my intestinal track, cause I get to laugh so hard that I almost sh*t my self, their for I don't get bound up. I actually read their rules to partake in the group discussion, next time I want to read something that painful, I will go and remind myself not to, by wiping my ass with a pine cone, and using pine pitch as a hemroidal cream, it would have the same effect as agreeing with the rules and hitting accept.
 
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