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Mass shooting @ Baptist church Sutherland Springs, Texas

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Waher, Nov 5, 2017.

  1. Picton

    Picton NES Member

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    Sure. But in this particular case, NICS would have prevented a violent dumbass from easily getting four guns. And as long as we have NICS, it might as well work. As it would have in this case, if Airman Snuffy and his NCOIC has been doing their jobs.

    Is it likely the shooter would have found another way to get a gun? Sure. But he didn’t have to lift a finger to do so.

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    They've already been to the clink. That’s the point.
     
  2. Lokdog

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    And they'd be heading back. Or they should
     
  3. Admin

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    The whole background check thing is dumb. Does anyone really think this guy would have said "Well the NICS check said I can't buy a gun from the store, I guess my plan to kill people is foiled..." ?
     
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  4. 45collector

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    I wonder why Willeford didn’t keep his AR mags loaded?

    Every single AR, AK, and FAL magazine I have are kept fully topped in their own locked cases at all times. Not that I ever want to have to be in his situation but it’s just a very simple and quick form of preparedness.

    Hats off to the man regardless. Balls of steel and calmness under fire.
     
  5. SKumar

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    but but but it'll make it HARDER for the bad guy to get ahold of that gun. That should reduce mass killings, right?
     
  6. Ben Cartwright SASS

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    Air Force/Army... I rest my case! I WAS NAVY!!!!!
     
  7. Chevy 2 65

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    Bingo !


    [video=youtube_share;lNYcviXK4rg]http://youtu.be/lNYcviXK4rg[/video]
     
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    Intentionally shot him between the plates after running down the road barefoot.
    Very impressive....
     
  9. Jason Flare

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    The problem with supporting the NICS check system is that if it did work in this case and the dirtbag got a gun anyway the libtards would be calling for more laws.
     
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    Sadly they're always calling for more gun control laws even when it's a truck or anything else that was used.
     
  11. Jason Flare

    Jason Flare NES Member

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    Exactly. And that’s the reason to not allow them the NICS check system.
     
  12. MAJoe

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    Unfortunately my former pro gun friends are using the same argument to say the only solution to this now is Australia-like confiscation. Was rather surprised to hear that from them yesterday.
     
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    Tell them there is a legal route to accomplish their goal, amend the Constitution. Give it a shot.
     
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  14. oppressed

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    Well, at least you realized they are idiots and they are your "former" friends.
     
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    Ask them if they know how that turned out for England?

    UK Homicide Rate.PNG

    Not to mention the long-term effects felt by the Jews at the hands of Hitler, Chinese in tiananmen square, and other forms of unrepelled tyranny.

    If they want that shit, tell them to ****ing move to Australia!
     
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    I don't much, but have to disagree with you on this one! It would be as bad as we think. All of this leftist crap is a march toward the type of tyranny that propelled Hitler to power. Its what we need to fight, if not for ourselves but for our kids and grandkids.
     
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    Interesting how the good guys gun wasn't "high powered" and didn't kill him instantly and the media is ignoring that little gem.
     
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    I'm about half way through and have to get to work but thoughts so far:

    -Dude is a hero, no doubt about it. This is the epitome of American self-reliance.
    -This really validates the training that a lot of gun owners (including many here on NES) go through. He really had a clear mind and knew what he was doing, this isn't some FUDD.

    Don't mess with Texas!
     
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    The part that will flip some lib lids. "I've trained all my kids on weapons since they were 8 years old"
     
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    Buy their guns.
     
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    LOL! Major news carriers are now picking up on the story but refuse to mention Willeford was a former NRA instructor. They are going with "experienced rifleman" so they don't have to say anything that could be considered positive about the NRA.
     
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    because that wouldn't fit the narrative?
     
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    That's why I like those that are hidden in plain sight inside of furniture/walls.
     
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    Very Rare Type of Story to read from the Post-Gazette:

    http://www.post-gazette.com/news/na...es-of-gun-control-debate/stories/201711060232


     
  28. calsdad

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    Trying to avoid Godwin's law here as much as I can...........

    Tyranny didn't propel Hitler into power. A completely screwed up country - run by a liberal regime BTW - is what "propelled" the Nazis into power.

    As far as being a "tyranny" - it was pretty much only a tyranny if you were on the Nazi's shit list. Regular Germans thought they were living better at the time. Superhighways. Volkswagens. Everybody had a job. Etc.

    It wasn't until after the war when the whole thing fell down into a heaping pile of rubble and the country was split into two parts - and millions upon millions of Germans were dead , that the majority started thinking the Nazis were complete and utter shit.



    Compare that against the communist regime in Russia - and there's a big difference. The commies were killing people off right from the get go. They were genociding "enemies of the state" right from the start. And you could be in the in crowd one day - and breaking rocks in Siberia a week later.

    Solzenitzyn wrote a lot about what it was like in the Soviet Union. NKVD went thru entire cities at night and just gathered people up by the hundreds or thousands. Yes - the Nazis went after the Jews , and they also did stuff like clear out the "defectives" from convalescent homes and so forth, but for many if not most Germans living under Nazism wasn't a never ending cycle of fear and "tyranny" as it was under the Soviet communist regime.

    One of these is not exactly the same as the other. And things change over time. If we had actually been conquered by the Nazis ( a premise I find laughable in the first place) - then if we were still being ruled by them 72 years later you can be sure it wouldn't be exactly the same kind of social and political environment that it was during the WW2 years in Europe. That's why I said: You likely would not have had the church shooter - the guy would have been dealt with and dealt with harshly before he even got as far as he did. I don't recall the Germans being all that lenient towards paperwork screwups. You also wouldn't be dealing with BLM, Antifah, pussy hat marches, liberal freak outs in the media - etc.
     
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    Show them this video:

    [video=youtube_share;bnoFKskvSq4]http://youtu.be/bnoFKskvSq4[/video]
     
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    What a stud.

    This is great, everyone should watch this. I am going to work extra hard at getting some more training in coming weeks.
     
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