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This creates the precedent of banning lawfully owned private property with no provision for compensation ... a dangerous step towards the kind of stuff Linsky wants to pass.
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This creates the precedent of banning lawfully owned private property with no provision for compensation ... a dangerous step towards the kind of stuff Linsky wants to pass.
This creates the precedent of banning lawfully owned private property with no provision for compensation ... a dangerous step towards the kind of stuff Linsky wants to pass.
Okay.... let's assume Tarrs bill gets passed and Baker signs it into laws.
Lets also assume the Feds do nothing on a national level.
Is anything stopping me from buying one in a Texas ( after all the FR pricing)
and bringing it home to MA?
Is anything stopping me from buying one in a Texas ( after all the FR pricing)
and bringing it home to MA?
This language is still pretty vague:
“The term machine gun shall include bump stocks and trigger cranks.”
So, a bump stock with no gun is a machine gun?
Since when did that stop them?Its not dangerous, its patently illegal.
Since when did that stop them?
Whoever, except as provided by law, possesses a machine gun, as defined in section one hundred and twenty-one of chapter one hundred and forty, without permission under section one hundred and thirty-one of said chapter one hundred and forty; or whoever owns, possesses or carries on his person, or carries on his person or under his control in a vehicle, a sawed-off shotgun, as defined in said section one hundred and twenty-one of said chapter one hundred and forty, shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for life, or for any term of years provided that any sentence imposed under the provisions of this paragraph shall be subject to the minimum requirements of paragraph
So, for those who are thinking that this law does not ban possession of a bump stock or trigger crank, you may want to take a gander at the penalty for possession of a machine gun without a license. Because according to this law, that is what they will be. So unless you have a green card, you may be looking at (please correct me if I am reading this incorrectly) LIFE IN PRISON.
Well shit, looks like you are right. The bill left out "possession" because that issue is already neatly defined in the statute.
Which is why I asked the question: Is MA now going to issue MG licenses to all those who now possess bumpstocks and crankfires? Otherwise it is an unlawful taking by denial of use of private property that was lawfully possessed prior to any law being amended.
You can't have it both ways MA legislature......shit or get off the pot.
So, for those who are thinking that this law does not ban possession of a bump stock or trigger crank, you may want to take a gander at the penalty for possession of a machine gun without a license. Because according to this law, that is what they will be. So unless you have a green card, you may be looking at (please correct me if I am reading this incorrectly) LIFE IN PRISON.
Which is why I asked the question: Is MA now going to issue MG licenses to all those who now possess bumpstocks and crankfires? Otherwise it is an unlawful taking by denial of use of private property that was lawfully possessed prior to any law being amended.
You can't have it both ways MA legislature......shit or get off the pot.
Freedom has a value and a cost. Why support a state that hates you?
It wasn't easy for me to move for MANY reasons. Life is too short to deal with that shit. I guess if you grew up in MA it's all you know and you really dont understand.
As a practical matter, certainly not worth having a bump stock in this state without an MG license. If you really you need/want suppressive fire, just use the technique - no special stocks or cranks are required.
license to possess or carry a machine gun may be issued to a firearm instructor certified by the Criminal Justice Training Council for the sole purpose of firearm instruction to police personnel, or to a bona fide collector of firearms upon application or renewal of such license.
A "bona fide collector of firearms," for the purpose of issuance of a machine gun license, shall be defined as an individual who acquires firearms for such lawful purposes as historical significance, display, research, lecturing, demonstration, test firing, investment or other like purpose.3Ñ4For the purpose of issuance of a machine gun license the acquisition of firearms for sporting use or for use as an offensive or defensive weapon shall not qualify an applicant as a bona fide collector of firearms.3Ñ4An individual licensed pursuant to 18 U.S.C. Chapter 44, Sections 921-929 and 27 CFR part 178 shall be deemed a bona fide collector of firearms for the purpose of this regulation.
We're not talking practicality here. we're talking legality. The state is acting in an unconstitutional manner and it needs sorely to be addressed.
The entire legislature should be hanged.
In other news, water is wet. I agree with you.
I want them to realize the bump stock and crank ban does not stop the technique. Then, let's see if they have the balls to ban semi-autos. I am tired of the death by a thousand small, ignorant cuts. Let's get this on for real if they dare and see how it works out.
If you want what I think you are eluding to, you don't want a state level semi auto ban, you need a federal one. Nothing started after NY Safe and I bet nothing would start here. Federal level, you may have a different story. Then you could jump in on the action. Now there may be some UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES for folks who vote in legislation like this. But I wouldn't expect any organized response around here.
I want the SCOTUS to deal with it.
So, for those who are thinking that this law does not ban possession of a bump stock or trigger crank, you may want to take a gander at the penalty for possession of a machine gun without a license. Because according to this law, that is what they will be. So unless you have a green card, you may be looking at (please correct me if I am reading this incorrectly) LIFE IN PRISON.
Sad, isn't it.Most murders and rapists don't get life in this ****ed up state
MA will no doubt argue "it is not a taking because there is a license you can apply for. If you cannot get the license because of the unlimited discretion granted to police departments on MG licenses, that is a separate issue, but compensation is not due.".Which is why I asked the question: Is MA now going to issue MG licenses to all those who now possess bumpstocks and crankfires? Otherwise it is an unlawful taking by denial of use of private property that was lawfully possessed prior to any law being amended.
You can't have it both ways MA legislature......shit or get off the pot.
Comm2A will be examining the legal issue surrounding whatever gets passed. But, you have to remember, we are the business of getting stuff done, not using the court to make statements, so action, or lack thereof, will be carefully and strategically thought out. It could be that the issue is so loaded and sentiment so biased that all any action would do is set a precedent that would be most harmful to future, more sympathetic, cases.But I wouldn't expect any organized response around here.