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So it passed - so who do they plan on sending to confiscate the super killy bump stocks?
Is that the same bill that bans standard ("high") capacity mags?
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So it passed - so who do they plan on sending to confiscate the super killy bump stocks?
The mags were dropped from it.
No mag ban... yet.
John Rosenthal, founder of the nonprofit Stop Handgun Violence, said he supports a ban on bump stocks but the state should take other steps such as outlawing sales of military-grade ammunition, like the 5.56 mm bullet used in AR-15 rifles.
Some want to attack the ammo too.
http://www.eagletribune.com/news/me...cle_46949b38-3b0f-5422-a4a2-b7973f876425.html
"And that includes people who are gun owners. People realized we have to draw the line somewhere," Linsky said.
Look at the bills wording.
Increase the rate of fire.
My semi automatic rifles shoots 1 round per a trigger pull. Therefore its rate of fire is 1 per a pull.
If i put a bump-stock on it, its rate of fire is still 1 per a pull.
We are truly dealing with idiots.
“Whoever possesses, owns or offers for sale any device which attaches to a rifle, shotgun or firearm, except a magazine, that is designed to increase the rate of discharge of the rifle, shotgun or firearm or whoever modifies any rifle, shotgun or firearm with the intent to increase its rate of discharge, shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison by not less than 3 nor more than 20 years.”
There are two pieces to this clause: (1) a prison sentence for the sale, ownership or possession of a device that attaches to a gun; and (2) a prison sentence for actually modifying a gun to "increase its rate of discharge."
Regarding (2), how do they know who modified the gun?
Massachusetts lawmakers expected to vote on bump stock ban in reaction to Las Vegas mass shooting
Bypassing a public hearing, Massachusetts lawmakers are expected to vote Monday on a bump stock ban.
The legislation banning bump stocks comes after the Oc. 1 mass shooting in Las Vegas. The gunman, Stephen Paddock, had the device on several guns, according to authorities.
The bump stock device allows rapid fire, similar to automatic fire.
Lawmakers in the Massachusetts House plan to attach the ban to a budget bill that's expected to pass today.
Gov. Charlie Baker has said he would sign a ban on bump stocks if legislation reaches his desk. State senators have indicated they are interested in moving quickly on a ban as well.
Massachusetts House Speaker Robert DeLeo, D-Winthrop, said the Bay State has some of the strongest gun control laws in the country.
"Having said that I think the bump stock was something that just wasn't looked at," he said. "I think it was an oversight on our behalf and because of that, I think it's most important that we take it up and that we take it up immediately, and that again we show that Massachusetts is the number one state in the country when it comes to battling gun violence."
After Las Vegas, Massachusetts Gov. Charlie Baker says he'd sign ban on bump stocks
Legislation banning devices that a Las Vegas mass murderer may have used to modify his weapons, enabling him to pepper a concert crowd with hundreds of bullets per minute, would win Gov. Charlie Baker's signature if it reached his desk.
Emerging from a caucus with House Democrats, DeLeo said he hadn't heard objections to the ban from gun owners.
When a reporter noted there won't be a public hearing on the bill so gun owners are unable to formally weigh in, DeLeo responded, "Trust me, I think with what has been written, whether it's news media, social media, you know, whatever, I think they know this is a subject that's being looked at."
The ban will not include high-capacity magazines. "We're going to save that debate for another day," said state Rep. David Linsky, a Natick Democrat who is proposing the bump stock ban.
Linsky said he has received "positive" feedback on his proposal.
"And that includes people who are gun owners. People realized we have to draw the line somewhere," Linsky said. "With the Second Amendment right to bear arms, comes the responsibility, and that responsibility includes to not use weapons that have no place in a civilized society. And a bump stock creates a weapon that has no place in a civilized society."
http://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/2017/10/massachusetts_lawmakers_expect.html#incart_river_home
No mag ban... yet.
yeh but when you release it shoots again which is part of the same pull
Who were the 3 that voted no? Just curious since it was so lopsided.
The key word in the law is "attaches". Which doesn't describe ur finger hand or shoulder but can definitely describe a slew of triggers and that worries me more than anything.Did they ban shoulders and hands that can do the same thing without a bump stock?