How bad is Connecticut?

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Been weighing my options over the summer and I'm probably going to be attending law school in either Mass or Connecticut. RI only has one law school for me to apply to and it's not rated very well.

I would probably need an apartment close to the law school, which means I'd have to be in either Mass or CT. I wouldn't establish Mass residency because of how nutty Mass is in general.

But what about Connecticut? I saw the sticky in the CT gun laws area but it's three years old. I'm going to check out the CCDL website when I get home from work.

Also, how nutty is CT besides gun laws? I'd be looking at the area roughly a half hour away from Hartford, i.e. New Hartford, Avon, maybe along I84.
 
MA isn't as bad as people think when it comes to gun laws. In some ways it's better than, say, Texas. CT is really bad right now from what I understand.
 
My BIL was going to go into law school but was told the lawyer pool is already flooded with people trying to get into that line of work... but he is in OK and not sure if that is local or country wide? YMMV
 
CT sucks. No AR platform rifles post '94. No AK platform rifles at all. Massively expanded 'assault weapons' ban list that includes everything fun, basically a one feature allowed state [like the SKS in original form with just the bayonet]. No 'preban' mags, -- all mags over 10 rounds banned unless you qualify under the cop/state guard carve out [unless you registered them with the state back in '14 and even then, only allowed to own them at home or at the range, and if you're carrying, can't load more than 10 rounds in the standard capacity mag.

At least CT allows you have sound suppressors though!
 
Been weighing my options over the summer and I'm probably going to be attending law school in either Mass or Connecticut. RI only has one law school for me to apply to and it's not rated very well.

I would probably need an apartment close to the law school, which means I'd have to be in either Mass or CT. I wouldn't establish Mass residency because of how nutty Mass is in general.

But what about Connecticut? I saw the sticky in the CT gun laws area but it's three years old. I'm going to check out the CCDL website when I get home from work.

Also, how nutty is CT besides gun laws? I'd be looking at the area roughly a half hour away from Hartford, i.e. New Hartford, Avon, maybe along I84.

CT is OK for:

-Carrying low capacity handguns
-Less safe storage BS
-No Handgun compliance bullshit (outside of the wonderful new AW ban shit)
-Suppressors aren't outlawed

For everything else? Pretty much sucks 110% donkey balls. AR, AK, etc, all BANNED unless you have grandfathered shit. (which you probably don't). No > 10 round pre ban exemption like MA, either.

-Mike
 
Can you mail-order ammo and reloading components in CT? This has always been a big peeve of mine with MA.

Yes. But you have to have a permit to purchase ammo in CT, and most mailorder places now require you to present a copy of it to fill the order. CT has a three permit system now, ammo, long-arms, pistol/carry. Ammo lets you purchase ammo. Longarm lets you purchase shotguns, rifles and ammo. Pistol/carry permit lets you purchase pistols, shotguns, rifles and ammo - and lets you carry. Since you have to go through permitting process for any of these permits, it makes sense to simply apply for pistol permit.
 
CT is worse than MA in many regards. They outright ban certain AR15s by name and all AK47 variants. AK74 variants are okay is my understanding. I believe prebans are grandfathered in but even then I know some are banned by name.
 
Higher property taxes, higher income taxes, higher sales taxes, and a sort of wash on gun laws. All things considered I go to CT for the income but stay in MA to keep the money in my pocket.
 
Higher property taxes, higher income taxes, higher sales taxes, and a sort of wash on gun laws. All things considered I go to CT for the income but stay in MA to keep the money in my pocket.

Nothing is a "wash" about the fact that there are tons of common semiautomatic rifles that are now rendered completely illegal in CT. [sad2]

Hell even before their new AWB, at one point every semiautomatic rifle I had in my safe was CT illegal. (I had a few 7.62 x 39 AKs, and a Colt AR15.... )

-Mike
 
Sorry, focused on gun laws in CT. My fiancee is from just outside of Hartford (her family is from Kensington). We go back to visit at least a few times a year. The traffic in and around Hartford can be a little tough depending on the time and day but not any more than Boston traffic. Generally speaking there are some nice areas of CT to visit. Having popular casinos nearby is a plus if you're into that stuff. Problems begin to manifest when you decide to live there. Taxes are too high, Dan Malloy (CT governor) is literally running CT into the ground yet people voted him back in, businesses are leaving, people are leaving.
 
If you are going to be spending large amounts of time in MA without MA residency, keep in mind that a non-resident MA LTC must be applied for and renewed yearly in person in Chelsea (massive hassle) where a CT non-resident permit to carry is pretty straightforward to get. On virtually everything else, MA has better gun laws these days than CT, so I would live in MA if I were you.
 
Off topic but I can tell you that "environmentally", CT is awful [laugh]
The shit that I see (especially 2 weeks ago in Waterbury) for work is amazing to say the least. But that's not surprising with the amount industry CT has/had...
 
Yes. But you have to have a permit to purchase ammo in CT, and most mailorder places now require you to present a copy of it to fill the order. CT has a three permit system now, ammo, long-arms, pistol/carry. Ammo lets you purchase ammo. Longarm lets you purchase shotguns, rifles and ammo. Pistol/carry permit lets you purchase pistols, shotguns, rifles and ammo - and lets you carry. Since you have to go through permitting process for any of these permits, it makes sense to simply apply for pistol permit.

There is one thing I'm confused about - the pistol/carry permits.

Some websites say you go to the CT State Police to get the application, but others say you go to the town police or First Selectman. Which witch is which?
 
If you are going to be spending large amounts of time in MA without MA residency, keep in mind that a non-resident MA LTC must be applied for and renewed yearly in person in Chelsea (massive hassle) where a CT non-resident permit to carry is pretty straightforward to get. On virtually everything else, MA has better gun laws these days than CT, so I would live in MA if I were you.

The things I don't want to deal with are the Mass "list" and the required storage laws. If I go to law school in Mass, I could buy anything I want in RI as long as I keep RI residency. The annual permit thing is unfortunate but it is what it is.
 
Personally I f***ing hate ct. Gas and beer cost more, need a license to even buy ammo. And in my personal opinion there is no segregation of areas. I know it sounds racist but what I mean is if your in downtown Hartford specifically you got crackheads and dudes in Armani suits standing next to each other crossing the street. And I don't mean just the occasional homeless person asking for money. I prefer to know ahead of time what kinda area I'm going into. Like if I'm going to Brockton or mattapan it's different than if I get a service call in the financial district in Boston. In Hartford it's just all mashed together, and personally I don't like that. Also traffic blows south of Hartford. Only second to Boston in New England.
 
There is one thing I'm confused about - the pistol/carry permits.

Some websites say you go to the CT State Police to get the application, but others say you go to the town police or First Selectman. Which witch is which?

You apply to the police or First Selectman of the town in which you RESIDE. Check their website, often they'll re-direct you to the state website for the form, but you turn it in to the local department, get printed there, etc. That's for a temp permit, good for sixty days, good statewide. Once you have that temporary permit in hand, you take it to the state police and apply for a state permit. That's good for five years.

If you're applying for a non-resident permit, then I *think* you go through the state police. Not 100% sure because I've never done it.
 
Personally I f***ing hate ct. Gas and beer cost more, need a license to even buy ammo. And in my personal opinion there is no segregation of areas. I know it sounds racist but what I mean is if your in downtown Hartford specifically you got crackheads and dudes in Armani suits standing next to each other crossing the street. And I don't mean just the occasional homeless person asking for money. I prefer to know ahead of time what kinda area I'm going into. Like if I'm going to Brockton or mattapan it's different than if I get a service call in the financial district in Boston. In Hartford it's just all mashed together, and personally I don't like that. Also traffic blows south of Hartford. Only second to Boston in New England.

If I'm not mistaken, you require a permit to buy ammo in Mass too, and non-residents are not eligible (unlike CT).
 
My BIL was going to go into law school but was told the lawyer pool is already flooded with people trying to get into that line of work... but he is in OK and not sure if that is local or country wide? YMMV

Unlike med school, law school does not limit applicants to the number that the system can be certain to provide employment for.

If you graduate from a T14 law school, you should be ok. Graduate from a no-name second tier school and (a) You are unlikely to get on the partner track in a high end law firm; (b) Only have a 50% or so chance of landing a job within the first year of graduation that requires a bar license; (c) Will not get any of those juicy "oh my back hurts, the pain, the pain!!!" slip and fall cases; and (d) Are likely to spend your legal career doing house closings, wills, and OUI defense.

As to "how bad are CT gun laws" .... very.
 
The things I don't want to deal with are the Mass "list" and the required storage laws. If I go to law school in Mass, I could buy anything I want in RI as long as I keep RI residency. The annual permit thing is unfortunate but it is what it is.

You can have residency in both states, which would let you buy things in RI and have a resident license in MA.
 
Been weighing my options over the summer and I'm probably going to be attending law school in either Mass or Connecticut. RI only has one law school for me to apply to and it's not rated very well.

UConn law is a pretty competitive school. Good luck on your application. When I halfheartedly applied, I didn't make the cut.

I would probably need an apartment close to the law school, which means I'd have to be in either Mass or CT. I wouldn't establish Mass residency because of how nutty Mass is in general.

But what about Connecticut? I saw the sticky in the CT gun laws area but it's three years old. I'm going to check out the CCDL website when I get home from work?

Carry laws are decent with very few posted locations. It would implore you to get your permit before coming to save some time/hassle and money. (IOW, if you don't have a CT, get one). The suckiest part are the assault weapons ban and magazine bans. I'm sure somebody will fill you in on the exemptions applicable to preban assault weapons (but not mags). I am willing to go into CT law in depth with you, lmk, if you would like to do that. I would prefer to have a phone conversation than to type.

Also, how nutty is CT besides gun laws? I'd be looking at the area roughly a half hour away from Hartford, i.e. New Hartford, Avon, maybe along I84.
If you are on a law student budget, I wouldn't waste the money on WeHa, Farmington, Canton, Avon, New Hartford, or any of the nice suburban towns if you are single. (If you have kids and are going to enroll them in public school, look at those towns). The other consideration is commute. During the busy hours, commuting between Farmington and Hartford can be a 40 minute drive, easily. Burlington, New Hartford, Avon, and Simsbury will all have you commuting into Farmington to catch 84. As a result traffic on 4 in Farmington (the route to/ from 84) is a pain going to Hartford in the morning and returning in the afternoon. (If you are in a part of Avon, Simsbury, or Canton that makes 44 convenient, the traffic will be less bad, but it is still not a fun drive, because you will be driving with the crowd) That said, driving into Hartford is never Boston bad.

I commute into Hartford daily and avoid 84. It sucks. Big time. I drive surface streets- it's faster.

Those are great towns, and I recommend spending a lot of time there- but not living there in your circumstances. You would be well served to look in New Britain (one of the few times I recommend this). You will also find better access to discount grocery stores and the like, which will be helpful for budgetary reasons as well. That said, you really should think about personal protection options if you go that route.



Connecticut is nice. If it weren't for the gun laws I probably wouldn't think about leaving, which I don't really think about doing because of financial benefits to living here.

See the red. IM or email me.
 
I live in CT, and I can tell you that I know more people who are pro 2A or gun friendly, than I do antis. I live in a beach town and work in New Haven, which is where most of the lizards are, Bernie stickers galore. The taxes are atrocious and unless you are very wealthy or own no property it will be very hard to retire in this state unless something changes. Currently there is a mass exodus of people from CT, I can't drive a quarter mile with out seeing at least one house for sale. All the retirees and young people looking for jobs are leaving. A very wealthy man just left CT and he took with him the $300 million he pays in taxes every year. 1 GUY 300 MILLION!!!! GONE! CT will soon look like Detroit.

Now that that's out of the way, Traffic is bad on I84 pretty much every where in the AM and the PM. The same is true for 95 at the 91 merge and NY border. 91 is bad around the Hartford springfield area.
There's a bunch of cool places to hang out, the beaches some good bars and restaraunts, race tracks, and state parks. Any other questions just ask.
 
Unlike med school, law school does not limit applicants to the number that the system can be certain to provide employment for.

If you graduate from a T14 law school, you should be ok. Graduate from a no-name second tier school and (a) You are unlikely to get on the partner track in a high end law firm; (b) Only have a 50% or so chance of landing a job within the first year of graduation that requires a bar license; (c) Will not get any of those juicy "oh my back hurts, the pain, the pain!!!" slip and fall cases; and (d) Are likely to spend your legal career doing house closings, wills, and OUI defense.

As to "how bad are CT gun laws" .... very.

Agree - if you are going to law school, go to the best one you can get into. Gun laws shouldn't be a consideration IMHO - it's only 4 years after all.

IMHO, MA is much better than CT, gun-wise.
 
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Agree - if you are going to law school, go to the best one you can get into. Gun laws shouldn't be a consideration IMHO - it's only 4 years after all.

IMHO, MA is much better than CT, gun-wise.

Gun laws won't make my decision in regards to which law school I choose. I'll sign the dotted line with the one that gives me the best offer and is the highest ranked. It's a question of where I physically live and if I establish CT or Mass residency or not.
 
CT sucks in every way possible, lived there for 35 of my 55 years, from taxes, traffic to regs to laws. Never mind the commie in the statehouse!!
 
Go to the one that will be most likely to get you a job.

CT sucks in every way possible, lived there for 35 of my 55 years, from taxes, traffic to regs to laws. Never mind the commie in the statehouse!!

Malloy is single-handedly killing the economy. The big government contractors won't move, but lots of others are.
 
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