Here it is AGAIN Boys Press Conference @ 11:55

[ntomsw]

Did he say he actually signed something???

 

[Stock weld]

Armor piercing bullets...... these people have no idea what they are talking about...

 

[Baystatesuks]

That was a colossal piece of pomp and circumstance, no news there but I wanna know what he just signed!

Separate thread listing all the EO's has been started.

 

[cekim]

This looks like a summary, not the actual EO's but I could be wrong.

Agreed, he can't do some/many of the things in there. A more realistic list of actual EOs seems to be here:
http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?66586-here-are-the-23-executive-orders

Note that here it is not banning FTF sales, but rather:
Publish a letter from ATF to federally licensed gun dealers providing guidance on how to run background checks for private sellers.

Right now, as I understand it, an FFL cannot call NICS for some random person, nor share the results with them (per the agreement you have to sign to setup NICS).

 

[veratyr]

Bullet point number 2 of giving law enforcement tools they need: "Call for Congress to pass new gun trafficking laws, which will impose serious penalties for those who help get guns into the hands of criminals"

I wonder how that will apply to fast and furious? What a ****ing joke.

 

[Dija]

Unfortunately in a nation full of people who mostly can't think critically, everything he said makes perfect sense.

 

[Cap]

Someone get me the stats on how many cops are killed by armor piercing bullets. Please...

 

[xtry51]

He punted legislation to congress. He wants to blame R's for the death of children.

Every time he goes on TV now he will mention how R's are killing children every day by not passing an AWB.

 

[Projectile]

Page 4. M855 is on the chopping block.

Only if passed by Congress, his EO's are just pure idiocy and feel good bullshit.

If I ever hear a doctor ask me about weapons in the home I will tell them to fcku off.

 

[Stock weld]

Again still standing on the graves of children.....These guys are exploiting those poor children at that conference....

 

[xtry51]

He's going to to everything he can to keep attention on this so that people don't dwell on the debt ceiling issue that's coming up rapidly.

 

[atilla]

Bullet point number 2 of giving law enforcement tools they need: "Call for Congress to pass new gun trafficking laws, which will impose serious penalties for those who help get guns into the hands of criminals"

I wonder how that will apply to fast and furious? What a ****ing joke.

when it comes to tracking the fast and furious guns, stats will be given to law enforcement, and vin diesel and paul walker will be called in to form a special sub-committee.

 

[xtry51]

Only if passed by Congress, his EO's are just pure idiocy and feel good bullshit.

If I ever hear a doctor ask me about weapons in the home I will tell them to fcku off.

I agree, but the issue remains he will keep going on TV spouting about how armor piercing bullets kill children all the time.

 

[Hiltonizer]

**** it, this is no time to be tasteful.

 

[jujutsuka]

Anyone know of a good Pro-2A primary care physician in MA?

 

[wolfenkraft]

when it comes to tracking the fast and furious guns, stats will be given to law enforcement, and vin diesel and paul walker will be called in to form a special sub-committee.

HAHA

 

[HKdrummer]

So what exactly is he signing?

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[jefftk]

Agreed, he can't do some/many of the things in there. A more realistic list of actual EOs seems to be here:
http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?66586-here-are-the-23-executive-orders

Note that here it is not banning FTF sales, but rather:
Publish a letter from ATF to federally licensed gun dealers providing guidance on how to run background checks for private sellers.

Right now, as I understand it, an FFL cannot call NICS for some random person, nor share the results with them (per the agreement you have to sign to setup NICS).

"7. Launch a national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign."

I'm pretty sure the NRA has been doing a fine job with this since about the civil war.... (regardless of your thoughts on their lobbying efforts...)
Can't wait for government gun safety programs.... This oughta be good

 

[Boghog1]

can someone post up the details scibid is blocked her at work, on second thought I already know it is a bunch of feel good BS that will do nothing

 

[joeendris]

Now signing orders most of which he did not reveal. Be afraid of the ones he didn't talk about more than the ones he did.

Pimping kids some more.

Guess telling us what the EO's are isn't going to happen until later.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obama-take-23-executive-actions-guns_696116.html

Primarily a bunch of feel good BS. Most of this stuff is already in action in the hate states like Ma, NY, NJ, DC, Ca, etc.

 

[cekim]

So what exactly is he signing?

- sent from forum runner using chisel and slate

See here:
http://www.northeastshooters.com/vbulletin/threads/187006-The-proposed-Executive-Orders

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can someone post up the details scibid is blocked her at work, on second thought I already know it is a bunch of feel good BS that will do nothing

http://www.northeastshooters.com/vbulletin/threads/187006-The-proposed-Executive-Orders

 

[ColdDayInHell]

Only if passed by Congress, his EO's are just pure idiocy and feel good bullshit.

If I ever hear a doctor ask me about weapons in the home I will tell them to fcku off.

Well said, and true. 10rd mags will NEVER pass. We aren't all pussies in the US, states will just tell the king to go **** himself and he will drop it. That whole speech was hot air. But, I found it disrespectful to the children, being manipulated like that.

 

[jcetto0351]

He's going to to everything he can to keep attention on this so that people don't dwell on the debt ceiling issue that's coming up rapidly.

Gun control is the unwinnable "time waster" that keeps people from focusing on the VERY REAL fiscal calamity happening right now...

Gun control will disappear after we argue over the debt ceiling and then bama will find another needless crusade to shift the attention of the mouth breathers that like him

 

[jefftk]

Well said, and true. 10rd mags will NEVER pass. We aren't all pussies in the US, states will just tell the king to go **** himself and he will drop it. That whole speech was hot air. But, I found it disrespectful to the children, being manipulated like that.

I bet people in NY never thought 7 round mags would pass!

 

[atilla]

Well said, and true. 10rd mags will NEVER pass. We aren't all pussies in the US, states will just tell the king to go **** himself and he will drop it. That whole speech was hot air. But, I found it disrespectful to the children, being manipulated like that.

like i said in the other thread: anyone else pimping or maniuplating kids the way he did would have landed in prison.

 

[MrScrewzloose]

I'm actually pretty excited that he basically said and did nothing, it was one of the most epic exploitations of a tragedy I've seen to date. So, the Republicans get blamed for "killing children", business as usual.

 

[xtry51]

I bet people in NY never thought 7 round mags would pass!

This. Don't underestimate how quickly Boehner will cave. We saw he doesn't have a spine with this last debt can kicking a few weeks ago.

 

[TLB]

He punted legislation to congress. He wants to blame R's for the death of children.

Every time he goes on TV now he will mention how R's are killing children every day by not passing an AWB.

This could be one big poser show. Hopefully, he already knows that Harry Reid and Boehner are telling him this shit (or most of it) aint gonna fly and he wants to preen so he can say he tried (for the children). Keeping in mind that there are Ds in red/purple districts who do not want to sign on the more gun control - it would be political suicide for some.

 

[Baserock]

16. Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.

This has been talked about in the past, WTF does this have to do with anything? The EO's are just mindnumbingly stupid or redundant.

 

[Acme.Armament]

How much OT to print the 500 million he needs for this BS? Not like they'll stay in the budget anyways.