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I hope nobody thinks they are getting a good deal on this. This "safe" is a tin can with a cheap lock.
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I hope nobody thinks they are getting a good deal on this. This "safe" is a tin can with a cheap lock.
I hope nobody thinks they are getting a good deal on this. This "safe" is a tin can with a cheap lock.
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- 14-gauge steel
I've been looking into safes a lot lately. Went to eastern security... I'm not too impressed with Fort Knox. They're super expensive in comparison to other companies for equal ratings and have huge door gaps.
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I've been searching for another safe also, I was actually impressed with Fort Knox safes. The Fort Knox Titan was on my short list. Another one that I was considering was the Superior Supreme unfortunately the SU 45 wasn't going to fit and I didn't want the SU 35.
Interesting. The Ft Knox rep at the 2015 Show Show told me the TL30 rates save, with dual locks (S&G dial and digital combo) was $6000, and it take a lot more than 7ga walls to rate TL30.I got a quote for a Ft Knox safe. The 7 gauge body 7241 with most of the bells and whistles was $6800. I found the same exact safe size, with better fire protection and 2 layers of 1/4" steel, for cheaper. And, it has 1/16" or less door to body gap...
Interesting. The Ft Knox rep at the 2015 Show Show told me the TL30 rates save, with dual locks (S&G dial and digital combo) was $6000, and it take a lot more than 7ga walls to rate TL30.
That would definitely qualify as a "a lot more than 7ga steel" \Steel isnt everything. My tl30x6 probibly only has a 14 gauge skin, but 4" of ceramic matrix with screen mesh and carbide chucks in it. A lockout would be a tragedy....
Some tool chests have a recessed area for a conventional padlock that makes it impossible to access the shackle with bolt cutters or a saw. Paranoia level will determine if you get a Master, Medco or Abloy lock.If you're really limited to $1k I think you're better off getting a tool chest (example), bolting it down and putting a round padlock on it.]
Even though gang boxes have a thicker metal skin than most "safes" they are not more secure. Most tradesman have lost the keys at one point or another and have had to drill out a gang box. All you need is a battery drill and a few drill bits.
I assume you are talking about drilling the padlock. This is why you store your tools inside the safe or jobbox. If you get a high end padlock like Medco, hardened anti drill pins, crescents and the sidebar will make drilling the lock a real pain. A Master can be done in a couple of minutes, probably using only one bit.Even though gang boxes have a thicker metal skin than most "safes" they are not more secure. Most tradesman have lost the keys at one point or another and have had to drill out a gang box. All you need is a battery drill and a few drill bits.
Nicely put.Most of the safes discussed in these threads are job boxes with sheetrock in them.
I agree that all safes at the 1000 dollar price point will only keep out the honest thieves. I would still advise against using a toolbox as a gun safe even if it is slightly better protected. I would hate to fill out a police report and mention that my gun collection was stolen from a toolbox and not a gun safe.
The police are trained in report writing skills; no reason a mere civilian cannot develop the same skill.stolen from a toolbox and not a gun safe.
The police are trained in report writing skills; no reason a mere civilian cannot develop the same skill.
Do not report it as a "toolbox", but as a "locked metal security container".
And never report a gun stolen. Report a trigger lock stolen with a gun attached.
Perhaps. I know when I had a license plate stolen that I had to fill out a form.And the officer taking your report will simply write "gun stolen", defeating the purpose of your phrasing gymnastics.
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Here are my 2 not safes. I got them both from Tractor Supply both on Black Friday 1yr apart. 600ea. Regular price is 999ea. They look like safes so will scare off 99.9% of all bad guys. Steel is advertised as 10ga but I'd bet more like 18ga. I had to drill a hole in the back to run a wire and the steel was embarrassingly thin. 18v Mikita went through it so fast I hit my knuckles! ouch!
I do like the look of them and like having them better than not but if you want a real safe these are not it.
The locks do work great. I've never had one give me any problem whatsoever. They work perfect every time. The inside is big enough for all kinds of valuables.
I know several people were burgled. The ones that had tin can safes did not lose any guns. The one who did lose guns now owns a tin can safeYour safes should only be a layer of security, bolt them down, have an alarm and a couple of dogs would make you a non victim.
I know several people were burgled. The ones that had tin can safes did not lose any guns. The one who did lose guns now owns a tin can safe
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Here are my 2 not safes. I got them both from Tractor Supply both on Black Friday 1yr apart. 600ea. Regular price is 999ea. They look like safes so will scare off 99.9% of all bad guys. Steel is advertised as 10ga but I'd bet more like 18ga. I had to drill a hole in the back to run a wire and the steel was embarrassingly thin. 18v Mikita went through it so fast I hit my knuckles! ouch!
I do like the look of them and like having them better than not but if you want a real safe these are not it.
The locks do work great. I've never had one give me any problem whatsoever. They work perfect every time. The inside is big enough for all kinds of valuables.
Im not sure how long youve had yours, i have two like yours and two of the larger size.the digital lock on these are absolute trash.not one of them works properly.that said i do like the size, look of the "safe"
There price point isn bad, and i knew what i was getting. We also did black friday or the christmas/newyear sale.
I wouldnt put anything very valuable in them though... they are rediculiously easy to move before full and have to be bolted down for the illusion of security.
I posted this same response in another "gun safe" discussion on this forum - not a bad safe for the $$$...
I just bought this safe today at Tractor Supply on sale until April 2nd for $650.00 - regular price is $700.00. It's great for my needs and price point as I cannot justify spending over $1,000.00 to store my firearms. The model number is Winchester TS-22-BLK and is supposed hold up to 26 long guns and 4 pistols but you can configure the shelving in a number of different ways to accommodate your requirements. It has a pretty good fire rating of 45 minutes at 1,700*F.
Overall dimensions are 59" H x 30" W x 22" D. Remember what the wise, old Chinese man said - "You can always make the big wok small, but you can never make the small wok big..." Buy a bit larger than you think you need right now because you will most likely need the space in the future!
Here's the link if you're interested:
http://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/pro...lectronic-lock
Winchester TS-22-BLK, 26 Gun Safe
Winchester will replace the safe with the exact model so at least he will get something but he really doesn't even want it back after this shit show
Always make sure your safe handle is turned all the way to the unlocked position (counter clockwise) so the locking mechanism will not rest against the bolt. The prevents "bolt side pressure" that causes additional strain on the motor that retracts the bolt.Guess the rods they use are hollow steel (I think that's what he said) and break all the time.