The thing I have seen the most is as soon as a jam happens all safty rules are forgoten.
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Dumb guy at the range
- Thread starter Kirkmcpaterson
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I was at an outlaw practical pistol event when visiting a friend, a guy was there with his 2 nephews. they were wrestling around in between stages and were told to stop by the RO, about a minute later they start up again when the uncle un-holstered his 1911 put it to his nephews stomach and pulled the trigger..... everybody freaked out and the RO kicked them out. the uncles reply was "oh chill the f.... out, it wasn't loaded"
xtry51
NES Member
Aside from the four safety rules, extra rules keep us safer?
What bigblue said.
Also, I got chewed out by my club's president once for going downrange with a rifle on a sling over my shoulder and the bolt open. This is despite the fact that there was no one else on the range and he happened to show up as I was walking back. After that I started taking the bolt out when heading downrange with no one around but with semi-autos F it, slinging it. The last thing I want to see when putting up targets is someone jumping out of the woods and grabbing my rifle.
Also, I got chewed out by my club's president once for going downrange with a rifle on a sling over my shoulder and the bolt open. This is despite the fact that there was no one else on the range and he happened to show up as I was walking back. After that I started taking the bolt out when heading downrange with no one around but with semi-autos F it, slinging it. The last thing I want to see when putting up targets is someone jumping out of the woods and grabbing my rifle.
You need to give your money to a different range.
Gotcha. This is why I don't go to those public ranges, too many newbies not to mention shooting indoors sucks.
xtry51
NES Member
This. I don't leave my rifle at the bench if I'm alone. It comes with me. Period.
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Agreed. I have a difficult time getting the wife and friends to come shoot pistol outside with me in the winter so occasionally I suck it up and go inside.
Most of what I have mentioned here occurred at MFS and is precisely why I left. I felt safer in Attleboro and that's saying something.
Hopkinton & Harvard are veritable bastions of safety in comparison. Even indoors at Hopkinton I can't think of a time where I have been Holy Shit scared. On the rifle range there have been a few incidents of idiots who say "I'm going downrange", flip the lights on, and walk downrange despite the fact that I am mid clip or mag. The BOD generally does a strong job of policing idiots and we have tightened our new member policies in the past year.
What we know about the person is the crux of the issue I guess. For example, I'd have no problem with shooting at varying distances with certain friends... on the other hand some people are blatantly unsafe with firearms, and if I don't know them I assume this until show otherwise.
only thing that you need to do is follow the safety rules
1. Treat all firearms as if they where loaded
2. muzzle in safe direction-----handle it as if where loaded
3. trigger off the trigger until your ready to shoot- treat it as if it where loaded
then the common rules for the range your on examples
There is no handling of firearms, parts, magazines or ammunition when the lights are on.
Be aware of others around you and dont be afraid to say something to unsafe people
after that DUMB can be subjective
1. Treat all firearms as if they where loaded
2. muzzle in safe direction-----handle it as if where loaded
3. trigger off the trigger until your ready to shoot- treat it as if it where loaded
then the common rules for the range your on examples
There is no handling of firearms, parts, magazines or ammunition when the lights are on.
Be aware of others around you and dont be afraid to say something to unsafe people
after that DUMB can be subjective
That sounds unusual for HSC.... do they REALLY have a rule about not carrying around an unloaded rifle? Or is it "no handling firearms while the range is cold" and somehow they consider that handling...
-Mike
I've felt pretty safe shooting indoors at MFL and S&W when it was still open, but that's about it. Every other indoor pay range basically is sketchy at best.
The shitty thing is I think a lot of the newb mentality is going to bleed over into private clubs and its going to cause some of them to crank up the rules... honestly I'd rather see them make the clubs twice as hard to get into before they add more shitty rules to any of them.
-Mike
The latter. I told him I wasn't handling it and he said I was. Well, my hands weren't on it so unless my shoulder can use the sling to point the rifle, insert a live round that's on the bench, close the bolt, and pull the trigger, I don't see what the issue is.
warwickben
bubba Kalashnikov
All at bobs .
Non English speaking group of young Japanese mixed dudes and girls. Girls dressed like school girls....muzzle swept me cause my 45 was louder then there 9mm . I flipped out on them . And gave basic rules with gestures lol. One girl swept me when she got brass down her shirt also .
Saw a women shoot the left wall 2 times in a row when changing mags. It was like she pulled the trigger as soon as she let go of the slide . Pointed out the fresh marks on the wall.... Then showed her how to rack it with you finger not on the trigger .
Mix group trying to shoot a glock gangster not realize there sweep every one to there right cause the couldn't control recoil.
Saw one dude hand a 500sw to his wife. One round down range and the second in the ceiling .
Non English speaking group of young Japanese mixed dudes and girls. Girls dressed like school girls....muzzle swept me cause my 45 was louder then there 9mm . I flipped out on them . And gave basic rules with gestures lol. One girl swept me when she got brass down her shirt also .
Saw a women shoot the left wall 2 times in a row when changing mags. It was like she pulled the trigger as soon as she let go of the slide . Pointed out the fresh marks on the wall.... Then showed her how to rack it with you finger not on the trigger .
Mix group trying to shoot a glock gangster not realize there sweep every one to there right cause the couldn't control recoil.
Saw one dude hand a 500sw to his wife. One round down range and the second in the ceiling .
Infinite Jester
Navy Veteran
Thanks. I just had a mini panic attack reading through those. Jeebus.
xtry51
NES Member
I'm hoping my sarcasm meter needs to be adjusted.
While I think things like USPSA/IDPA safety rules are great for those kinds of event formats because of the consistency of the rules and the relatively unknown quality of the shooters WRT safety and gear (it reduces the amount of shit the RO/SOs have to be looking out for which makes the things manageable) I think for standard range operations at any decent club that stuff is way, way overkill.
-Mike
