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That John and Kate + 8 family is in trouble.80% of people are killed by family members.Well crap, its been nice knowing you all, with those odds, my time must be about up.
The Duggars are ****ed
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That John and Kate + 8 family is in trouble.80% of people are killed by family members.Well crap, its been nice knowing you all, with those odds, my time must be about up.
That John and Kate + 8 family is in trouble.
The Duggars are ****ed
Quite the scientific experiment she has going here, trying proving that the world is full of irresponsible people and it is our governments job to baby proof our lives for us. She certainly lends herself well to it.
I don't really get what she is trying to prove? any idiot can carry a gun? what about the background check you submitted to? Finger prints? maybe you can still be an idiot and do it (legally) but not a criminal idiot.
And i'm pretty sure that most people who make the decision to daily carry don't go into it being PURPOSELY ignorant in all aspects of guns and their responsible ownership.
This is like trying to prove that we should eradicate all pit bulls by going and buying one without ever owning a dog or looking into how to care for one or train it, then taking it out to your neighborhood play ground and hoping it will bite some kid.
I mean really, what a useless, irresponsible, and potentially dangerous thing to be doing.
If the gun is loaded and she doesn't know what she is doing, she could kill someone.
If it is unloaded and she is just carrying it "for the experience", what if she gets mugged? Good job, you literally just handed a criminal a weapon.
Most of the responses are from people who think thing through with about as much care as she did. I like this one in particular:
"Kevin Dunbar says: June 12, 2013 at 8:43 pm
You are of course missing the point. The point is that with no training she could buy a gun and carry it. People buy guns for protection but if you own a gun it actually increases the likelihood that you or someone in your family will be killed. Less than 20% of people are shot by strangers. Fully 80% are killed by family members or friends."
80% of people are killed by family members. Well crap, its been nice knowing you all, with those odds, my time must be about up.
What else was he supposed to do? As an adult, it’s Yewman’s responsibility to become familiar with the product she is buying. This may strike some as too basic to bother writing, but gun dealers do not exist to stop adults from buying guns. That isn’t their job. Every gun dealer I have ever dealt with has been more than happy to explain anything and everything, if you ask. Gun range operators will show you how to hold and fire your weapon. They take the mystery out of it all. If you ask. Yewman shouldn’t imply any blame on the dealer for her own choice to protest something with which she is wholly unfamiliar, and then buy that product before becoming familiar with it.
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Back to Yewman’s 30-day harrowing ordeal.The whole thing [buying the gun] took 7 minutes. As a gratified consumer, I thought, “Well, that was easy.” Then the terrifying reality hit me, “Holy hell, that was EASY.” Too easy. I still knew nothing about firearms.But that never stopped her from protesting them and campaigning to outlaw them. What does this say about the leaders of the anti-Second Amendment movement?
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Yewman may be maintaining her ignorance of guns in order to spin a yarn. An hour or two at a gun range with a decent range master would probably dispel all her fears. She has elected not to take advantage of any range time, though. She has elected to shoot off her mouth about things she admits she knows nothing about.
Meanwhile, an avowed anti-gunner decides that she will arm herself, using all deliberate ignorance and irresponsibility, in hopes of showing that knowledgeable and responsible gun-wearers must be as ignorant and irresponsible as she. Follow the continuing saga of stupidity here: My Month With a Gun: Week One
Freedom. Not everybody gets it or wants it.
They elected Obama...I think someone already said it, but if your goal is to prove that it is possible to do something stupid, you will no doubt have no trouble in succeeding.
They elected Obama...
It does absolutely nothing, however, if the person taking the training doesn't have the mindset of actually wanting to learn and apply what they've learned into actual safety habits when actually handling firearms later on, in real life, outside of the "classroom". I am against mandatory training for this reason (as well as the fact that it is clearly a restriction on a right!) it does jack if the person being forced to take it isn't "into" it. I know this because I've had loaded guns pointed at me by people who probably just passed a BFS course no less than a year before they muzzle swept me.
-Mike
I wonder if there are any studies that show accident rates in states that have required training vs states that don't. I bet there's very little difference statistically.
If that was the case the reason I suspect it would show a minor difference is that most of the required training (MA especially) is shit training.
True. When you make something a minimum requirement, people tend to do only the minimum requirement.
Apparently it didn't appeal to their target demographic, so Ms, decided to cut their loses and blame it on "NRA-types". And once it was obvious that Heidi is a resident of Washington state, it also became clear that she lied multiple times in her "The whole thing took 7 minutes." account of the process.Yewman, a freelance writer, had written a three-part blog post for Ms. about buying a gun and carrying it everywhere she went. Yewman was clearly on the gun control side of the debate, and it’s fair to say that her posts were intended to show that it was far too easy for just about anybody to carry a gun just about anywhere. But, Kort went on to say, the comments Ms. Magazine had received were almost entirely from pro-gun advocates, and she and the small staff at Ms. were overwhelmed. Instead of leading to a high-minded debate about guns, her blog post had instead attracted insults and vituperation, and a clearly stated desire for “payback.” Other gun blogs had picked up Yewman’s post to mock it or insult it, with many commenters suggesting that the police in her hometown be called about what she was doing. . Inevitably, somebody discovered—and posted—Yewman’s address.
What was Kort’s solution to this dilemma? Incredibly, it was to kill the rest of Yewman’s series. “I don’t think I should post the next two installments of this—they’ll only fire up the troops again, and we’re just not equipped to handle this on our blog,” Kort wrote. When I reached out to Kort, suggesting that Ms. had allowed itself to be censored by Second Amendment absolutists, she would not respond on the record. Suffice it to say that Ms. disagrees with this assessment. But I don’t see how you could view it in any other way. Ms. published something the N.R.A.-types didn’t like; they responded by bullying Ms. online, and Ms. folded.
Heidi Yewman's "My Month With a Gun: Week One" came out on June 12, 2013. I figure her month is over, where's the rest of the series?
Oh wait, Ms. Magazine dropped the series after the outcry from part one, "to protect Heidi":
Apparently it didn't appeal to their target demographic, so Ms, decided to cut their loses and blame it on "NRA-types". And once it was obvious that Heidi is a resident of Washington state, it also became clear that she lied multiple times in her "The whole thing took 7 minutes." account of the process.
The comments on the original article do say "Ms. Yewman’s follow-up articles will be published in other outlets." (Huffington Post?), so we have that to look forward to.
Heidi Yewman's "My Month With a Gun: Week One" came out on June 12, 2013. I figure her month is over, where's the rest of the series?
Oh wait, Ms. Magazine dropped the series after the outcry from part one, "to protect Heidi":
Apparently it didn't appeal to their target demographic, so Ms, decided to cut their loses and blame it on "NRA-types". And once it was obvious that Heidi is a resident of Washington state, it also became clear that she lied multiple times in her "The whole thing took 7 minutes." account of the process.
The comments on the original article do say "Ms. Yewman’s follow-up articles will be published in other outlets." (Huffington Post?), so we have that to look forward to.
Heidi Yewman's "My Month With a Gun: Week One" came out on June 12, 2013. I figure her month is over, where's the rest of the series?
Oh wait, Ms. Magazine dropped the series after the outcry from part one, "to protect Heidi":
Apparently it didn't appeal to their target demographic, so Ms, decided to cut their loses and blame it on "NRA-types". And once it was obvious that Heidi is a resident of Washington state, it also became clear that she lied multiple times in her "The whole thing took 7 minutes." account of the process.
The comments on the original article do say "Ms. Yewman’s follow-up articles will be published in other outlets." (Huffington Post?), so we have that to look forward to.
Of course it got dropped, she got caught in a huge lie, I would bet pretty much anything she never even actually bought a gun.
Her phobia also doesn't align here. If she's so afraid of guns that "its going to shoot out a gas tank" or some other BS, then why would she even be able to set foot in a gun store? Also, someone who is that much of a nervous nellie would "show" to a gun shop clerk and they'd probably question someone like that, at a minimum, before selling them a gun. Either that or her phobia is "faked" to add dramatic effect to the article.
Just leads me to believe that whole thing is completely made up, or at least 95% fiction.
-Mike
Isn't that pretty much everything the anti gun crowd does?
They have gone so far over the top recently that it has become clear that 1984, Animal Farm, the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany are viewed as Howto guides to these people....Yes, nearly the entire platform's agenda is based on lies, deceit, and willful/intentional misrepresentation of data.
-Mike
Not passing judgement on your conclusion. People can have all sorts of irrational fears; I can easily imagine being OK walking into a gun shop and also being afraid to be responsible for handling one on your own. Some people are very unsure of themselves. Lack of confidence.Her phobia also doesn't align here. If she's so afraid of guns that "its going to shoot out a gas tank" or some other BS, then why would she even be able to set foot in a gun store? Also, someone who is that much of a nervous nellie would "show" to a gun shop clerk and they'd probably question someone like that, at a minimum, before selling them a gun. Either that or her phobia is "faked" to add dramatic effect to the article.
Just leads me to believe that whole thing is completely made up, or at least 95% fiction.
-Mike
Interview with Ms. Yewman and a few others [bs1]
"reminded me that I live in a world where terribly bad things can happen anytime and I needed to be prepared to face those situations so it brought alot of fear into my life"