scott-o
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Nice to see those who came out. Really enjoyed the response from a rep on the Harvard guy who priced out his freedom. I got pretty upset about that actually, that guy came off as a spoon fed know it all. Oh what a long day.
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It was a long day but we stood tall and as has been said, weren't repeating the same talking points over and over.
I was happy to get my chance to speak and for the support I received - I'm ok speaking with crowds, but its always intense no matter how well prepared I am.
On the funny side, I'm still laughing at the lies and misinformation - notably the youth panel which was made of the crazy girls and sackless teen "boy" who says he lives in fear every day of being the victim of a mass shooting. I know we all laughed, some of the antis laughed and at least one of the legislators gave the "oh cut the shit" face.
I'm glad I was there and proud to have stood tall with you guys.
I was happy to get my chance to speak and for the support I received - I'm ok speaking with crowds, but its always intense no matter how well prepared I am.
On the funny side, I'm still laughing at the lies and misinformation - notably the youth panel which was made of the crazy girls and sackless teen "boy" who says he lives in fear every day of being the victim of a mass shooting. I know we all laughed, some of the antis laughed and at least one of the legislators gave the "oh cut the shit" face.
I'm glad I was there and proud to have stood tall with you guys.
So, is there video of rep viera putting the Harvard numbers guy in his place? That made the 8 hours spent sitting on concrete worth it. And, gives a lot of hope for me with the panel.
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He said he was afraid of being shot by an AR-15 and people laughed at him b/c it was so absurd. I'll bet he's a favorite in the schoolyard.
We would have no one to vote for. None of my reps are remotely pro 2A.
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You know what, I'm at the point where I'm going to tell my rep it doesn't matter. If Linsky/Deval/Creem's bills (or anything that is at all like them) makes it out of committee and my representative votes for it or even fails to oppose it loudly, I'm voting for ANYONE running against him. I don't care if that anyone is an even more radically anti-2A moonbat than the guy I already have because at that point I'm already screwed and it will be worth it to send the message of firing the incumbent.
That's the message we have to send to our elected officials. All of these bills are ineffective, wastefully expensive, discriminatory, arbitrary, and abusive on their face. Any elected official that supports them, event tacitly, needs to be fired from his/her job regardless of who else we get in there next.
I'm telling ya. They try to pit us against grieving parents, pediatricians, God himself. We are with them on the emotional side, but they try to pit it like we're not. Besides, our arms are too short to box with God.
On a Friday afternoon?
If they then have their freedom, they can protect themselves. There are sacrifices, and each needs to weigh the risk/reward for themselves. I think it is getting closer to "time" for some people. Others have just gone silent ("underground").
I was wondering this. Just like statistics, I bet there are biblical verses to back up self defense.
What? What petition? Where? Someone must have been keeping that one secret.
I disagree. These battles are going to be state by state. The trouble there is, the resources (money and bused in people) will just get shuffled around until all states are cooked. This is why you can run, but you can't hide.
The way this works is this will just go away for a while, then come back out at the last minute, and all happen at once. Most of it will have already happened in some secretive meetings with deals and handshakes, unknown to the public. It has been like that since at least the 90's, when I started paying attention.
And God himself. And pediatricians. And tragedies. And, ... other politicians. And money.
Our side had a guy from the same synagogue, who said he will have an interesting conversation at temple tonight. He also said there is an armed guard by the door!!!!!!!!
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;-)I KNEW someone would have something! THANK YOU!
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You did a great job and maybe I am being crazy but they did seem interested...at least those that were left.
Maybe it is just a cathardic move but I have 7 pages of notes and already have the CMP Carbine and Garand match rules (in response from a request from one of the Chairs) in rebuttle to what I heard. I have plenty of paper to send in. I will also send them the VA tech Report to the Gov. of VA which clearly states that a 10 round mag limit would NOT have impacted the outcome. Maybe it goes nowhere. Maybe it stops one of these laws. Maybe it is just an outlet for my indignation and not yelling "BS!" at the top of my lungs out on the street to random people.
Are you the competitive shooter who explained that 1911 came out in 1911?
Be careful, because what I see coming out of that is a specific exemption for competition only, like the "special guns" on the "special list" to purchase (Pardini olympic guns?), only for "registered competitors" having an exemption to own a normal magazine. F that! Unless that is what you want, since it takes care of your interest in this. I am hoping that is not the case, but the rep was telegraphing his thoughts there.
thanks to everyone who came to the hearing, and all of you who spoke. it was definitely interesting. i was posting on facebook the whole day in an official capacity for work (ie: GOAL is a really good organization and i recommend joining), and on my personal page (ie:what is this existential BS? this isnt open mic night!)
i feel like the antis felt like the victors when they sat up there holding hands, with their sob stories and their 5 points... i really loved when somebody did an overdramatic "awww" after one of the stories.
i suggested to my friends that the 'gun bless america' guy probably goes to every hearing and says we should legalize prostitution.
the weird poetry stuff was fun too: "We are all the same, we are this, we are that. My identity is dispensed to me by the system. We don't have the luxury of going to gun stores because illegal guns are so easy to get. We are feeding the system. We are not in reality. When I look at you I see myself." ...what?!
i clapped so hard at the subjects/citizens thing that my hands stung for a good half hour. we were all thinking it, so glad you said it!
but tearing up the harvard prof that thinks you can put a dollar amount on a human life but disregards liberty.... i aggree. it made the whole day worth it.
walthamcpa, my mother is trying to get her license in waltham and it's going to be restricted, thank you for pointing out how foolish and arbitrary things are. also about the bulk purchase mosins, they really are addictive.
again, thanks everyone for coming out. next time i might bring my grandma and have her knit for our side.
i feel like the antis felt like the victors when they sat up there holding hands, with their sob stories and their 5 points... i really loved when somebody did an overdramatic "awww" after one of the stories.
i suggested to my friends that the 'gun bless america' guy probably goes to every hearing and says we should legalize prostitution.
the weird poetry stuff was fun too: "We are all the same, we are this, we are that. My identity is dispensed to me by the system. We don't have the luxury of going to gun stores because illegal guns are so easy to get. We are feeding the system. We are not in reality. When I look at you I see myself." ...what?!
i clapped so hard at the subjects/citizens thing that my hands stung for a good half hour. we were all thinking it, so glad you said it!
but tearing up the harvard prof that thinks you can put a dollar amount on a human life but disregards liberty.... i aggree. it made the whole day worth it.
walthamcpa, my mother is trying to get her license in waltham and it's going to be restricted, thank you for pointing out how foolish and arbitrary things are. also about the bulk purchase mosins, they really are addictive.
again, thanks everyone for coming out. next time i might bring my grandma and have her knit for our side.
No, that was not me but I was glad he made the point although I will excuse him for not being more pointed as it was about hour 7 before he spoke. Also, I am not in favor of any "competitor" class 2nd amendment right as I read "shall not be infringed" pretty plainly. I was thinking the same thing but it is a point that has to be made, that's why I bring up the Carbine which only had GI issue 15 and 30 round mags and link this to the VA Tech report (which says 10 round would not have made a difference) and the Heller/McD ordinary use standard. It's dangerous but they need something to rationalize opposition to thier core liberal beliefs. I am also tempted to do a point by point comparison of MA law and the "common sense" laws the Dear Leader and Uncle Joe wanted as MA exceeds these to show that all these fools saying "common sense" did not even know the laws but I hate to even use the words as it gives them credence.
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scott-o
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... "Me, I live everyday CONSTANTLY in the FEAR of being MOWED DOWN by an ASSAULT WEAPON" (Paraphrased)
Sounds like he'd be on "the list"
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That was military grade assault weapon that he constantly pissess his pants about.
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Bingo! Thank You! Thats him. I'm sending him a letter. That man made my day yesterday.
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There was another young guy on the right side early on on the meeting and he made a comment about FA10's and that we already register transfers. Does anyone know his name..seemed like he was also on our side.
You testimony was very compelling.
I think the committee was very interested and realizes the suitability situation is unfair.
I hope they can do something about that.
Please send the information they requested.
Great job!
Cap
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I made it until 5pm, and unfortunately didn't get to hear many pro-2a speakers (despite being there for 8 hours), but thank you to all that spoke.
Morning shot, while the "important people" speak:
2pm:
Morning shot, while the "important people" speak:
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namedpipes
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There is one and only one firearm related bill I would support and that is:
A Bill to Repeal all Firearm related laws, acts and regulations; To Disband those Commonweath organisations that deal largely with controlling or tracking firearms related assets or activities; And To Declare that all such Federal laws, regulations and organisations exclusive of the Second Amendment are Null and Void within the Commonwealth.
Yes, I know it will never happen (unless the People force the issue).
I stayed until the bitter end and more than half the committee had left when it came time for most of the 2a speakers to come up. I just missed Linsky too, whuch sucks because I called him out.
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your right! that's him
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