You should still out the cop, or at least the department.
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So police are now staking out legal turkey hunters?
What town?
Sounds a bit fishy to me...
This is why the cop said to get a pump. Under the cop's interpretation of the law, almost any semi-auto could be considered large capacity. Non semi-auto guns can't be large capacity.Maybe I have a flair for the dramatic but I wouldn't have even let him touch my gun if he said he's going to take it away especially if I know I'm in the right. With all due respect officer, you aren't confiscating my gun you better check your facts again. I don't mean to be confrontational or insinuate that I want to start a gunfight in the middle of the road but at that point I don't know you from some other shmuck trying to steal my firearms. Call your boys and we can discuss this civilly, I've got all day.
And BTW, what's with the extension tube crap anyway? By that standard any damn gun could be considered high capacity. We put a damn robot on Mars I'm pretty sure we could figure out how to manipulate a gun to accept more than its intended amount of rounds.
You should still out the cop, or at least the department.
Problem is that the black letter of the (dumb) law wrt large-capacity does indeed infer that anything with an external magazine can be deemed large-capacity. If you can extend a tube, in theory the way the law is written one could be charged/prosecuted. This is an argument that JasonS (seemingly MIA Mod) used to make every time I answered this question.
It was NOT the intent of the law to be this broad and the CMR makes the gun in question OK, but the law is a problem when read literally.
This is why the cop said to get a pump. Under the cop's interpretation of the law, almost any semi-auto could be considered large capacity. Non semi-auto guns can't be large capacity.
What town did you say?
Problem is that the black letter of the (dumb) law wrt large-capacity does indeed infer that anything with an external magazine can be deemed large-capacity. If you can extend a tube, in theory the way the law is written one could be charged/prosecuted. This is an argument that JasonS (seemingly MIA Mod) used to make every time I answered this question. ...
It's a cinch the cop didn't figure it out this interpretation by himself.
So, where did he get the bright idea?
- A new slide in Academy training?
- The latest edition of Glidden's book?
- Lurking on NES?
- ...?
Given the "crazy things gunshop employees say" and "crazy things taught in NRA classes" there are plenty of places that a cop could have gotten the idea. Hell, some cops do read the laws and come to their own conclusions.
And they even talk to each other. Bad ideas held by stupid people breed worse ideas when they get together.
Except that the EOPS high capacity is a great setup for an entrapment by estoppel defense.Problem is that the black letter of the (dumb) law wrt large-capacity does indeed infer that anything with an external magazine can be deemed large-capacity. If you can extend a tube, in theory the way the law is written one could be charged/prosecuted. This is an argument that JasonS (seemingly MIA Mod) used to make every time I answered this question.
It was NOT the intent of the law to be this broad and the CMR makes the gun in question OK, but the law is a problem when read literally.
For the love of Pete.....Show them the CMR!
If it isn't on the Large Capacity Weapons Roster and they don't have a large capacity feeding device...It isn't large capacity!!!!
See 501 CMR 7.02
And stop saying high capacity! The term doesn't exist in Ma law or statute.
For the love of Pete.....Show them the CMR!
If it isn't on the Large Capacity Weapons Roster and they don't have a large capacity feeding device...It isn't large capacity!!!!
See 501 CMR 7.02
And stop saying high capacity! The term doesn't exist in Ma law or statute.
Just out of curiosity, could you apply that same test to AR clones that are not specifically listed on the roster?
This would be pure AU
''Large capacity weapon'', any firearm, rifle or shotgun: (i) that is semiautomatic with a fixed large capacity feeding device; (ii) that is semiautomatic and capable of accepting, or readily modifiable to accept, any detachable large capacity feeding device; ...
Time to set that cop up for a fall. This will take some folks with level heads and big balls. If has that and some will friends, He needs to go back to that area and do exactly a he did in this instance and have his friends video and audio record the whole thing. The shove it up that cop's ass.
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It wasn't about hunting it was an anti gun thug cop, who did not know the law abusing his authority. The OP needs to name the dept and the shitbag stupid cop.
+1 A friend of mine was accosted by anti hunting local PD while dragging out a deer after a successful bow hunt.
PD called the fish cops; who threatened to seize his deer and go to his house and seize all his guns.
After a while he finally was able to get the land owner on the phone who confirm he had hunting permission (didn't have a written copy on him). He was allowed to leave.