that PDF, court thingie ... it didn't look like it is voluntary, it looked like a condition.
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that PDF, court thingie ... it didn't look like it is voluntary, it looked like a condition.
Asaltweapon
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But why? The efa10 isn't enough?
Chevy 2 65
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https://www.atf.gov/firearms/records-search-requests-rsrs
[FONT="]The Firearms Services Section, Law Enforcement Support Branch, will search the records maintained at the National Tracing Center (NTC) from out of business Federal Firearms Licensees (FFLs) pursuant to a request from ATF or other accredited law enforcement agency as part of a bona fide criminal investigation. Law enforcement regularly makes such requests to obtain the serial number of a firearm that was stolen from an individual.[/FONT]
[FONT="]The Firearms Services Section, Law Enforcement Support Branch, will search the records maintained at the National Tracing Center (NTC) from out of business Federal Firearms Licensees (FFLs) pursuant to a request from ATF or other accredited law enforcement agency as part of a bona fide criminal investigation. Law enforcement regularly makes such requests to obtain the serial number of a firearm that was stolen from an individual.[/FONT]
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All the AG has to do is threaten ruinous legal fees and any shop will eagerly sign a consent decree.
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amm5061
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Sure it's voluntary. They had the option to go to court over it. It's not blackmail, racketeering, or extortion when the government does it.
![[rolleyes]](/xen/styles/default/xenforo/smilies.vb/042.gif "Roll Eyes [rolleyes]")
Yup. Especially since they already got their pee pee slapped/fined by Maura last year...they're on her radar. They would have been at the top of the list of FFL's to visit per Maura's direction.
bgoum
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Especially if under the threat of the AG that she will bring you down if you do not "voluntarily" provide them.
proably something like "1K fine and slap on the wrist along with 4473's or..... 20K fine and you are shut down and prosecuted"
PSS
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Tgp needs to go
not when you may be selling a non functioning firearm but still need a federal background check. (fill in the blanks) That may be what she's going after in that "agreement".
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Thank you, that was my understanding.
I believe that was in place to prevent people like her from doing exactly what she's doing.
He folded, when what he should have done was sent that demand to ATF and ask for a ruling.
Of course it was Holder's gang at that point so who knows how that would have gone.
Fed agencies are a territorial bunch though , so she might have gotten slapped.
You do have to wonder how many people would have not done business with him if they were aware.
They're cowards. Like all traitors.
Lank
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Guys and gals, , I order ammunition online, regularly, in bulk orders and have the package sent to various free state locations where I have friends and family. There is nothing wrong with this, and there is NOTHING the central planning marxists on bacon hill can do about it. In fact, the douchie libtard central planners are forbidden from abusing the commerce clause, in the same manner as congress. Ha.
Chevy 2 65
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What criminal investigation is going on? Sales of illegal guns? I call BS. The AG has no authority in telling citizens what they can buy.
The safety and protection statement is also BS. Cops can have it, but a non-leo can't, come on get the **** outta here with that BS.
Ranger007
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Hmmmm add removed from NES. Now who’s going to call them and tell them to stop selling the NES oval stickers?
Lank
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Sorry man, thank a republican for all this. All true
I would say the POS AG needs to go. TGP....let the market decide.
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MachineHead
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Anybody have any regrets? Just found this on ye olde Google.
https://www.gofundme.com/pay-the-fine-for-the-gun-parlor
https://www.gofundme.com/pay-the-fine-for-the-gun-parlor
I walked out of a certain shop in Merrimac with a case each of 5.56 and x39 and a handful of PMAG 40s last week. Someone mentioned it looked like I was going to be having fun. I said it was a good start.....
Nope. Greedy bastards.
Chevy 2 65
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Yeah, I missed that part, and I only had one beer !
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VTski4x4
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Wcvb is running this “story” again. This is like the 5th ****ing time. Hope they enjoy my comment.
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Rockrivr1
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Still want to know what TGP is still allowed to have an account here and sell in the classified. As previously posted, I thought they were rightfully bounced out of here. Fing scumbags.
MachineHead
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The Gun Parlor fought through a hostile and arduous permitting process in 2015 to open their larger store and range, with lots of local opposition, a discussion here on NES:
NES members were commendably supportive of their efforts.
Judging from the Web site, the range looks beautiful and welcoming, https://thegunparlorrange.com/, offers a nice variety of classes including introductory licensing sessions. It's in the heart of New England's second-largest city, brings more people into the 2A tent with us.
They've put up with anti- agitating:
I have been a customer at their old location a couple times, received fair and professional treatment, would shop there again. I don't know Mr. Gabriel.
Having watched the Ch. 5 video a few times, Mr. Gabriel does not make reference to online ammunition sales. The reporter asks him what's required of a customer who purchases ammo in the store. He responds, accurately, that a customer needs an LTC or FID. What's unknown is the basis upon which the reporter approached him initially. I have some professional experience with media. Sometimes, a reporter conceals from an interviewee the true nature of the story being concocted. Here, for example, the reporter might have approached Mr. Gabriel in a friendly way, said simply that she had heard good things about the store and range, and asked if she could stop in to learn more about them for a possible feature story. The prospect of positive publicity appeals to a business. Mr. Gabriel might have had no idea that the reporter was doing a story about online ammo sales. In that case, Mr. Gabriel was taken advantage of. Some might say he could have been more careful in interacting with the media, or even have declined the apparent favorable publicity, but those aren't the same as acting in bad faith to hurt Mass. gun owners. To the extent that the TV story ends up impinging upon an out-of-state vendor and their customers, and then whips up a backlash that gets us to eat our own and hurt The Gun Parlor store and range, the effort scores a two-fer against us. On the other hand, if it comes to light that Mr. Gabriel knew full well in advance the nature of the reporter's angle, that would of course be another matter.
- The Gun Parlor NIMBY, https://www.northeastshooters.com/v...RLOR-amp-NIMBY/page4?highlight=the+gun+parlor.
NES members were commendably supportive of their efforts.
Judging from the Web site, the range looks beautiful and welcoming, https://thegunparlorrange.com/, offers a nice variety of classes including introductory licensing sessions. It's in the heart of New England's second-largest city, brings more people into the 2A tent with us.
They've put up with anti- agitating:
- Protestors at The Gun Parlor tomorrow, https://www.northeastshooters.com/vbulletin/threads/297006-Protesters-at-The-Gun-Parlor-tomorrow/page8?highlight=the+gun+Tparlor.
I have been a customer at their old location a couple times, received fair and professional treatment, would shop there again. I don't know Mr. Gabriel.
Having watched the Ch. 5 video a few times, Mr. Gabriel does not make reference to online ammunition sales. The reporter asks him what's required of a customer who purchases ammo in the store. He responds, accurately, that a customer needs an LTC or FID. What's unknown is the basis upon which the reporter approached him initially. I have some professional experience with media. Sometimes, a reporter conceals from an interviewee the true nature of the story being concocted. Here, for example, the reporter might have approached Mr. Gabriel in a friendly way, said simply that she had heard good things about the store and range, and asked if she could stop in to learn more about them for a possible feature story. The prospect of positive publicity appeals to a business. Mr. Gabriel might have had no idea that the reporter was doing a story about online ammo sales. In that case, Mr. Gabriel was taken advantage of. Some might say he could have been more careful in interacting with the media, or even have declined the apparent favorable publicity, but those aren't the same as acting in bad faith to hurt Mass. gun owners. To the extent that the TV story ends up impinging upon an out-of-state vendor and their customers, and then whips up a backlash that gets us to eat our own and hurt The Gun Parlor store and range, the effort scores a two-fer against us. On the other hand, if it comes to light that Mr. Gabriel knew full well in advance the nature of the reporter's angle, that would of course be another matter.
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