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Sig Mosquito vs Ruger SR22 vs Walther P22
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mikelawtown
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I got the 1st gen p22 when it came out and was told the newer ones were better .
I got my P22 in 2004. I got the two barrel kit with the red dot sight in a nice hard case. I have well over 10k rounds through it without much fuss. I clean it when it won't go fully into battery.
Other than having to turn the scope base around I have no complaints. Ejected shells would ricochet off the base and block the action about 30% of the time. A little Dremel work and problem solved.
I am about the only person I know that would buy another Walther. I recommended the Ruger because it seems more people are happier with that gun. A friend has the Ruger and it seems to be pretty finicky with ammo also, but that seems to be an anomaly.
Other than having to turn the scope base around I have no complaints. Ejected shells would ricochet off the base and block the action about 30% of the time. A little Dremel work and problem solved.
I am about the only person I know that would buy another Walther. I recommended the Ruger because it seems more people are happier with that gun. A friend has the Ruger and it seems to be pretty finicky with ammo also, but that seems to be an anomaly.
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Varmint
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Do any of these 3 guns fire without a magazine loaded? I read that the M&P22 Compact has a magazine lock.
Just curious if this was a .22 thing.
All of my MK series do, which is cool because I shoot a lot of Super Colibri rounds.
the sr22 has to have a mag in to fire or dry fire due to the mag disconnect safety
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allen-1
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My wife likes Sigs, so I bought her a Mosquito when I saw a used one in the case. A number of guys that I shoot with told me that she wouldn't like it, that it would give her trouble. That's not been our experience. It's very ammo-particular, this one likes CCI "Optimized for the AR Platform" ammo, with Remington Golden Bullets a close second.
I can't speak to the other guns on your list, but I can say a few things about the .22's I've got. If you haven't looked at Browning Buckmarks, you might want to. I've got a couple and they're just terrific target guns. Lots of different configurations and options available. If you've got a Glock, Advantage Arms makes a .22 conversion kit that runs well, (partial to Remington Golden Bullets). And if you want to go retro, find a used S&W 617 10 shot revolver, unbelievable how much fun they are...
I can't speak to the other guns on your list, but I can say a few things about the .22's I've got. If you haven't looked at Browning Buckmarks, you might want to. I've got a couple and they're just terrific target guns. Lots of different configurations and options available. If you've got a Glock, Advantage Arms makes a .22 conversion kit that runs well, (partial to Remington Golden Bullets). And if you want to go retro, find a used S&W 617 10 shot revolver, unbelievable how much fun they are...
Varmint
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Cool thanks. I know the PPQ M2 .22 doesn't have a mag disconnect safety, just more nanny-state crap. I think California requires them.
mikelawtown
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guy had this last week in Manchester and I had the SR22 and at 25 feet I was easily hitting a 3 inch target and well the guy with this couldn't------->View attachment 119404
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I would get the SR22 unless you have a large supply of mini mags. The Mosquito can be very picky on the 22 ammo it uses whereas the SR22 shoots anything. Once in great while you will find a Sign Mosquito that shoots more than min mags but it's not very often. Just take a look at the used guns at Four Seasons there are 6 Mosquitos listed and no SR22's.
yanici
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Wasn't the gun, it was the shooter. The 22/45 is usually an accurate shooting hand gun. Maybe he had crappy ammo too. 25' is hardly a challenge when shooting a 22/45.
mikelawtown
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Maybe it was the shooter but either way this guy had a few toys and talked a good game. Either way I know the SR22 I have is very accurate
turbo38gn
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W@ow... this thread is a no-brainer.... I can only share my experience with a Mosquito ..... = total JUNK !!!!!! feels good in the hand, looks good... but that is where it ends. If a salesman in a shop tries to sell you one.... don't ever step foot into that store again. Anyone that would push that gun does not care about their customer... The reviews are stacked against it, whereas this thread alone makes a hugh statement for the SR22.. heck, I don't need another 22 but reading this makes me want one..
Andreas
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SR22, no question.
I own a mosquito, but I think I have the only one they ever built that runs correctly. It'll shoot bulk pack ammo all day long as long as I clean it. Every other mosquito I've experienced is a jam-o-matic with anything but CCI mini-mags which are rare as unicorn farts.
SR22, as the other posts have said, runs anything.
Personally, though, I'd get a buckmark, but that wasn't one of your options.
I own a mosquito, but I think I have the only one they ever built that runs correctly. It'll shoot bulk pack ammo all day long as long as I clean it. Every other mosquito I've experienced is a jam-o-matic with anything but CCI mini-mags which are rare as unicorn farts.
SR22, as the other posts have said, runs anything.
Personally, though, I'd get a buckmark, but that wasn't one of your options.
slap shot
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Love my Moskito, but i know i'm in the minority here. Kinda like a real gun compared to the SR. Maybe i'm just lucky but i think any blowback 22 is going to have issues with some ammo, especially once it's dirty.
Jay77
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Mine had the same problem on the right side.
I'm a long-time Sig fan, like many here, but also like many here, I can't recommend a Mosquito. Mine will eat anything (mostly due, I think, to the fact I have a Gemtech threaded barrel vice the OEM barrel, which is shit), but no matter what I've tried, the DA trigger pull is still ridiculous. It would be my daughter's favorite .22, but she literally can't manage the DA trigger pull. She's 20, and she can't pull the DA trigger through. Ugh. Even I hate shooting the thing DA. It's just a poor design, and not at all beginner friendly. You literally have to start every string SA.
Of the two remaining choices, the SR22 has the better reputation, and less ZAMAK. The slide of both the P22 and Mosquito are ZAMAK (a Zinc alloy), and I've seen pictures of both with cracked slides. The only real problem I have with the SR22 is the safety. It operates the opposite of "normal" safeties. UP is FIRE and DOWN is SAFE.
If you can open the aperture a bit, I'd recommend two other guns: the new S&W M&P .22 Compact, and the Ruger 22/45 Lite.
The M&P .22 Compact is made by S&W in Springfield, not imported/made by Umarex/Walther. It's well-made, with an Aluminum slide (vice Zinc), and gobbles up anything I feed it. PSA had them on sale at $250, and may run that special again in the future. I highly recommend it as a "newbie trainer," and a great all-around plinker. Super-quiet suppressor host, too.
My "22/45 Lite" is really the Pac-Lite upper that Ruger knocked off for the "Lite," mounted on a 22/45 frame. Between the lightweight upper and polymer lower, the gun weighs nothing. More accurate than I can hold, it also eats anything I feed it, and has a world of aftermarket parts.
Between the M&P and the 22/45, my Mosquito has moved into safe-queen status. How much of a safe-queen? If it weren't given to me as a gift, I'd sell it off.
Lots of good .22 options out there; many of them superior to the ones you've mentioned. I hope you can look around and maybe shoot some of the offerings.
Of the two remaining choices, the SR22 has the better reputation, and less ZAMAK. The slide of both the P22 and Mosquito are ZAMAK (a Zinc alloy), and I've seen pictures of both with cracked slides. The only real problem I have with the SR22 is the safety. It operates the opposite of "normal" safeties. UP is FIRE and DOWN is SAFE.
If you can open the aperture a bit, I'd recommend two other guns: the new S&W M&P .22 Compact, and the Ruger 22/45 Lite.
The M&P .22 Compact is made by S&W in Springfield, not imported/made by Umarex/Walther. It's well-made, with an Aluminum slide (vice Zinc), and gobbles up anything I feed it. PSA had them on sale at $250, and may run that special again in the future. I highly recommend it as a "newbie trainer," and a great all-around plinker. Super-quiet suppressor host, too.
My "22/45 Lite" is really the Pac-Lite upper that Ruger knocked off for the "Lite," mounted on a 22/45 frame. Between the lightweight upper and polymer lower, the gun weighs nothing. More accurate than I can hold, it also eats anything I feed it, and has a world of aftermarket parts.
Between the M&P and the 22/45, my Mosquito has moved into safe-queen status. How much of a safe-queen? If it weren't given to me as a gift, I'd sell it off.
Lots of good .22 options out there; many of them superior to the ones you've mentioned. I hope you can look around and maybe shoot some of the offerings.
Varmint
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Does that have some kind of barrel adapter on it?
I'd buy that for $250 in a heartbeat, if I didn't live in Mass of course.
I'd buy that for $250 in a heartbeat, if I didn't live in Mass of course.
The M&P .22 Compact is made by S&W in Springfield, not imported/made by Umarex/Walther. It's well-made, with an Aluminum slide (vice Zinc), and gobbles up anything I feed it. PSA had them on sale at $250, and may run that special again in the future. I highly recommend it as a "newbie trainer," and a great all-around plinker. Super-quiet suppressor host, too.
Yeah, PSA runs some stupid-cheap specials. The gun is usually "on sale" around the low $300's. Sometimes I think they're intentionally forcing me to buy stuff from them.
The gun comes with a threaded barrel (3/8-24), and I added a 1/2x28 suppressor adapter. The 3.56" barrel keeps everything subsonic, and it's a very quiet host.
The M&P22 Compact is a bit smaller than "full size," about the size of the Shield.
Although I don't own one, so I can't speak to it, PSA has the full size M&P22 on sale right now at $259. Hard to pass up.
Although I don't own one, so I can't speak to it, PSA has the full size M&P22 on sale right now at $259. Hard to pass up.
