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red dot vs. holographic vs. optical
- Thread starter Coyote33
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There are more decent red dots on the market than choices at a candy store. It's all personal preference, 1 moa, 3 moa, or conventional APV. Primary Arms is turning out some really nice stuff for all under a hundred bucks, same with Bushnell. I like my Vortex red/green Strikefire and I just put a Sparc on an Ultimak on my Saiga 5.45, they rock, but cost almost 200 plus the mount for the Saiga. I ran across a Springfield Armory red dot a few years back which sits on one of my 10/22's, the other has a APV. Either way, your sure to be like a child in a candy store trying to pick something out, have fun, that's what shooting is all about.
That is why I am asking. I want to know what works and what doesn't, in the conditions and uses I said. I am looking for good deals and to avoid bad ones. This is not a life or death thing, and it isn't for competition. The 1moa vs. 3moa thing is something I am seeking advice on, against the conditions spelled out above. Same with red vs. green; or dot vs. circle vs. crosshairs.
Still looking for an answer on differences between types.
Also looking to try one or two out. My father had a cheap $20 (BSA?) one from Walmart on his pellet gun, which was OK, but I think he dropped it and screwed it up or something.
Thanks everyone, and keep it coming.
Still looking for an answer on differences between types.
Also looking to try one or two out. My father had a cheap $20 (BSA?) one from Walmart on his pellet gun, which was OK, but I think he dropped it and screwed it up or something.
Thanks everyone, and keep it coming.
You can never beat irons on a 22, My 3 Marlins, 99-M1, 60 and 39A are all irons and my Glenfield 20, my first rifle, has a Simmons 3-9 x 30 which is dead on. I love 22's, you can never have enough.
The sights on the 10/22 stink, and my eyes aren't getting better. I'd do the Tech sights, but if I am going to spend money on something, I'd prefer some magnification. I wish there were an inexpensive 2x or 3x scope that isn't huge; like a 3x by 30mm barrel with 32x objective would be fine. I figured I'd investigate these red dot and holographic sights while I'm at it, since they seem kind of popular.
By the way, how do "reflex" sights come into this? Are red dot sights also known as reflex?
By the way, how do "reflex" sights come into this? Are red dot sights also known as reflex?
I'm using the Primary Arms M3 clone. I was asking about the micro dot from PA. I watched a bunch of video reviews and the glass looks annoyingly blue.
Idk about the PA micro dot, but my CMore STS (same thing, basically) is very blue. Might be symptomatic of the tiny RDS.
AFAIK, it has something to do with the lens coatings. Its not really bad, per se, just annoying sometimes.
I have the PA micro dot. It does look blue and it is more annoying to me on overcast days for some reason. It's not as bothersome on a nice sunny day. I haven't used it indoors or any low light situations.
I use iron sights on my 10/22s...I shoot 22s fifty feet to 50 yds thats why the ammo comes 550 to a box,plenty of misses.
........You want to hit something forget the optics and shoot a Ancchutz 1907.....,one shot and be done with it.
........You want to hit something forget the optics and shoot a Ancchutz 1907.....,one shot and be done with it.
OK, revitalizing this thread with a twist.
What sights would work best at night, with no lights?
Interested in something for coyote hunting with .22 since that is all that is allowed, and I cannot find BB shot in 2 3/4 inch 12 gauge shotgun shells. I tried the fiber (Tru-Glo?) on a BB gun in full moonlight, and they did not light up at all. Anything visible is better than nothing. Just wondering.
Thanks.
What sights would work best at night, with no lights?
Interested in something for coyote hunting with .22 since that is all that is allowed, and I cannot find BB shot in 2 3/4 inch 12 gauge shotgun shells. I tried the fiber (Tru-Glo?) on a BB gun in full moonlight, and they did not light up at all. Anything visible is better than nothing. Just wondering.
Thanks.
I have a bushnell trs25 which I like a lot. Only 1x. For the 70$ it cost with the mount I’m happy. It rides on my primary rifle, but it would suit a 10-22 really well, possibly with no riser depending on the rail you use.
1) How are they at night?
2) Are these legal for night hunting coyote? (no "artificial lights")
3) Does anybody have the law (chapter and section) for the no hunting with lights at night?
4) Does anybody have the law (chapter and section) for the .22 and shotgun only for coyote at night?
BREWINZ
NES Member
Yup. I know, right? The other choice is shotgun, but mine is old-time 2 3/4, and I'd have to reload to get BB shot. No buckshot legally in MA.
Well, there is always daytime calling. I want to try that maybe as soon as next week. Need some room to spread out for that, though.
I have both a red dot and 3-9 scope on together. I find that at > 50 seeing a red dot on a black bullseye is very difficult , but then again I am old with crappy eyes. The scope is great for target shooting past 50 for me, at 100 I can't use the red dot at all on a black target, but the red is great for < 50. I also have an under $100 red dot, knockoff of something from asia, and my scope is bushnell. YMMV.
BREWINZ
NES Member
It's actually $499 in stores. On par with EOTech.
BREWINZ
NES Member
My original post (48) was merely pointing out that Bushnell and EOTech aren't the only true holos. I never recommended the product.
Mossberg Maverick 88. Accepts 3" shells, and can be had for less than $200. I still would not want to use a BB load, even if it's lead, for shots beyond 30 yards. For sights at night, I've tried brass bead, red fiber, and green fiber. The green fiber optic sight worked the best in low light. But with no light, nothing works.
re: red dot
That TRS-25 doesn't dim enough in darkness, for my use. And, it filters light without gathering any extra. No go for night use, as far as I'm concerned.
If I was going to go with a non-NV/thermal solution, I would be looking at a scope with a big-assed objective lens, and an illuminated reticle. The scope I was last considering for night hunting was a Vortex Hog Hunter.
